If you can't use them.

If you don't like them.

If you just suck with them.

It doesn't mean that they're broken.

Is the etc because you can't think of everything?

ARs got buffed
LAVs got buffed
Nova knives got a slight buff
Sniper rifles, swarms, and forge guns were unchanged
Shotguns are semi broken
Mass drivers are broken again
Laser rifles took several nerfs
HMGs are having a harder time killing me, so they probably got nerfed

Mass drivers and Laser rifles are the main focus of this thread, because they beat AR users in their specialist niches. AR users bitched about it, and now we are where we are.

And for the record, I wasn't a LR user. I don't think I even picked one up all last build.

The "etc" is because I didn't feel like writing half a page and going into detail. ARs went unchanged....what buff did ARs get?? The TAR got a damage buff and they broke the burst AR.

Nova knives got a serious buff because you are not able to survive a nova knife attack anymore if they run up on you. lasers got a reduction in range (so did every weapon). Because of the range nerf, it hurt the HMG game but it is working as CCP intends it to be. They don't want the HMG to be long range killers..they are supposed to hold down points and if you're in range, the HMG will still shred you

I can't wait for everyone to respec into proto Caldari Logi and Tac AR's.

It'll warm my heart to see the patch notes the following week.

wtf last build was awful. Besides the laser being absolutely useless, this build is 10x more balanced than the last. But we all know that no matter what you do you'll still never be relevant in any build of this game ever, so you need to try to come up with other things to attribute your status as a non-factor to.

Last build was almost perfectly balanced. Viziams were broken- that was about it.
Now, thanks to your feedback, assault rifles are the only viable light weapons, apart from sniper rifles.

In other words, The only major balance change that was needed last build was to correct the viziam's damage, but apparently, everything was redone.
Happy?

It's a damn good thing for me at least, that your situational awareness is lacking- I can still get knife kills on anyone I get the jump on.

I feel profaned every time CCP touch my assault rifle because the rest of the community try "to be different" using another weapons and they just suck with them. Like people that have not Facebook just to say "ey, I'm a ******* badass, I don't use Facebook".

I know a lot of people that just **** with shotguns, forge guns, plasma cannons, etc. A lot of people that make a lot of "1 shoot = 1 kill". But is easier to cry instead to learn how to play.

Go use a Scramble Rifle that is the same.

Oh oh oh, right, you will say, "the numbers are not the same". "The numbers, the numers".

You really think that in a game when you crush against invisible walls all the time, numbers make any kind of difference? Pff.

New Eden is all instinct.

Welcome to New Eden.

Adapt or Die.

<3

By ARs, I'm referring to tactical, and they got more than a damage buff. The recoil changed enough that modded controllers now make them fully automatic again.

The difference being that Sniper Rifles, SMG's, and Pistols require skill and precision to use, unlike the TAC.

If we complained about the Duvolle TAC, you'd probably fervently defend it, claiming that it's fair that it can do more damage than a Tank, just for the fact it's proto. But when a good player can use a strong weapon that requires skill to use to take out a Heavy? Call the police!!

It must be hard to type on your knees with CCP so far down your throat.