DUST Search - Tankers and AV against MLT LAVs and AV grenades

TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:

Tbh, I think AV is fine where it is atm, and this is coming from a dedicated Gunnlogi pilot. I say this for two reasons:

1. We currently only have access to the Militia and Standard variants of tanks, as well as the Enforcers. Enforcers are (supposed to be) glass cannons, while the standard version exists to provide a balance between tank and gank. I'm waiting for our Marauders to come back to really lean one way or the other, but so far I see proto AV going against standard equipment.

2. A lot of tank drivers are idiots. Seriously. I see many people drive these things out into the open and start firing at individuals like they're a solo pubstoming infantry meatgrinder. These will be the guys that get snuck up on, blown up (I sometimes wonder what the severity of QQ would be if we had a C4 equivalent), and then come here to tell us that "I died. They too stronk". I find that my survivability is almost assured if I stay with the group (hell, sometimes I'll lag behind a bit) and have a backup plan ready instead of flooring it in reverse.


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Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 339	Posted - 2013.06.14 00:43:00 - [1] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Tbh, I think AV is fine where it is atm, and this is coming from a dedicated Gunnlogi pilot. I say this for two reasons: 1. We currently only have access to the Militia and Standard variants of tanks, as well as the Enforcers. Enforcers are (supposed to be) glass cannons, while the standard version exists to provide a balance between tank and gank. I'm waiting for our Marauders to come back to really lean one way or the other, but so far I see proto AV going against standard equipment. 2. A lot of tank drivers are idiots. Seriously. I see many people drive these things out into the open and start firing at individuals like they're a solo pubstoming infantry meatgrinder. These will be the guys that get snuck up on, blown up (I sometimes wonder what the severity of QQ would be if we had a C4 equivalent), and then come here to tell us that "I died. They too stronk". I find that my survivability is almost assured if I stay with the group (hell, sometimes I'll lag behind a bit) and have a backup plan ready instead of flooring it in reverse. This all the way. Also... The Gallente tanks will murder other tanks the best but explode in wonderful glory against explosives (such as AV grenades and Swarms), where the Caldari tanks just simply don't care as much against explosive AVs and are handicapped against fighting armor HAVs. HAVs move fast, they are mobile, so as long as smart HAV pilots keep moving, continually finding new areas (Always keep the other team's AV infantry guessing where you are, stick around and they will home in on you en-mass), then AV grenades are enough to make you move but not kill you unless you are already under extreme duress or are a moron for sticking around/ignoring the beelining infantryman. The Gallente ones rock against vehicles and are murdered against AV, and the Caldari ones are the opposite, I'm perfectly fine about this. Honestly the only AV gear I have a problem with are forge guns, as the militia and base ones are fine, but the Advanced and Proto ones do a bit too much damage and could tone it down a smidge. I have a cheap, low-tech fit, half a million per Caldari tank, that has three 15% damage reduction mods, a 274/pulse for five pulses shield booster, and a total of 5150 shields and 1250 armor... And AV grenades are not a threat, they simply don't matter unless I am staying in one place and someone lays down a nanohive or brings a bunch of buddies, in which case it is entirely my fault for dying.