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EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:39:00 -
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TAC AR:
I use ARs, Gek and Duvolle. I get killed by tacs occasionaly but it never feels unfair or OP . Ive used the TAC and its not as versatile as the AR so i switched back.
LAVS:
Im a master at dodging an lav and when they do hit me its only once a game and i never felt the need to take them away because of it. The only reason you keep getting run over is because no one, not a single person, switches to av. Some guy sais 8 lavs were running around........i wish i was in that game wouldve been some easy kills and alot of fun just to see it.
Every other week theres a new QQ thread that catches on.
Why dont you guys complain and demand answers about the bugs?
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Full Metal Kitten
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
508
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:42:00 -
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Is this a rhetorical question? Welcome to the Internet and the next great generation of winners. Er, whiners. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
409
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:43:00 -
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We're complaining because there are problems. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
482
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:45:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:TAC AR:
I use ARs, Gek and Duvolle. I get killed by tacs occasionaly but it never feels unfair or OP . Ive used the TAC and its not as versatile as the AR so i switched back.
LAVS:
Im a master at dodging an lav and when they do hit me its only once a game and i never felt the need to take them away because of it. The only reason you keep getting run over is because no one, not a single person, switches to av. Some guy sais 8 lavs were running around........i wish i was in that game wouldve been some easy kills and alot of fun just to see it.
Every other week theres a new QQ thread that catches on.
Why dont you guys complain and demand answers about the bugs?
Well said.
TAC isn't over power, people use it because it has a nice reach.
When it gets nerfed (the wheels are now in motion), people will complain about one of the other Proto ARs.
The Nerf This Nerf That cycle is getting ridiculious. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1789
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:48:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:TAC AR:
I use ARs, Gek and Duvolle. I get killed by tacs occasionaly but it never feels unfair or OP . Ive used the TAC and its not as versatile as the AR so i switched back.
LAVS:
Im a master at dodging an lav and when they do hit me its only once a game and i never felt the need to take them away because of it. The only reason you keep getting run over is because no one, not a single person, switches to av. Some guy sais 8 lavs were running around........i wish i was in that game wouldve been some easy kills and alot of fun just to see it.
Every other week theres a new QQ thread that catches on.
Why dont you guys complain and demand answers about the bugs?
Well said. TAC isn't over-powered, people use it because it has a nice reach. When it gets nerfed (the wheels are now in motion), people will complain about one of the other Proto ARs. The Nerf This Nerf That cycle is getting ridiculious.
I take it you missed exmaples TAC AR DPS thread? That thing has an equivalent DPS to an large blaster turret, no infantry weapon should be doing that amount of damage. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Unclaimed.
324
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:49:00 -
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The TAC: makes the Scrambler obsolete and is too easy too use with a modded controller. All the 'pro' players use it like this.
LAV's: I run dedicated AV A LOT and the main issue is sound. Half of the time they don't even make a sound, so I end up getting run over by an AV that didn't show up on the map and didn't even make a sound. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:49:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:Why dont you guys complain and demand answers about the bugs?
It's arguable that you can do both - but I agree, why?
It may be technically free, but it isnGÇÖt worth even a minute of your time. |
GetShotUp
0uter.Heaven
League of Infamy
180
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:58:00 -
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TAC ARs are OPd for a couple of reasons.
1. They have more range.
2. They do way more damage. With a duvolle, you'll need damage mods to hit as hard as a TAC. Sure, the TAC is single shot but this is where point 3 comes in.
3. Modded controllers. People are using these controllers to use the rapid fire for the TACs. Imagine a duvolle with the same dmg as a TAC.
If they don't do anything about the TAC, I'll just get me one of those modded controllers and join the **** fest.
Bring up the range in weps so the TAc doesn't have a better advantage and do something about these moded controllers. I'm not sure how they can control the rapid fire on a TAC though but something has to be done because not everyone uses modded controllers. |
Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
56
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:06:00 -
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The TARs wouldn't be nearly as prevalent if the ranges on most of the other guns weren't hard capped at the range of a six year old's slingshot.
Even the range on my GLU is mediocre, at best.
While there are probably things to change on the TARs (RPM and hipfire accuracy, IMO), looking at them in isolation is dumb, hard range caps need to be removed and the changes made to optimal ranges that have been mentioned so we can see where things land.
The people arguing against a nerf know that CCP doesn't adjust things in a sensible way, they tend to just flat break them. See: missile turrets, laser rifles, most every weapon post sharpshooter, early Uprising HMG's, Chromosome TAR's, Breach ARs, others I don't even know about, I'm sure. But some of us actually like having a usable and pretty accurate semi-auto AR. It will probably no longer be either, if CCP messes with it.
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EKH0 0ne
R.I.f.t
Orion Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:11:00 -
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At least fix all the bugs before we focus on nerfs and buffs. Stop distracting them.
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SmileB4Death
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
90
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:17:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:TAC AR:
I use ARs, Gek and Duvolle. I get killed by tacs occasionaly but it never feels unfair or OP . Ive used the TAC and its not as versatile as the AR so i switched back.
LAVS:
Im a master at dodging an lav and when they do hit me its only once a game and i never felt the need to take them away because of it. The only reason you keep getting run over is because no one, not a single person, switches to av. Some guy sais 8 lavs were running around........i wish i was in that game wouldve been some easy kills and alot of fun just to see it.
Every other week theres a new QQ thread that catches on.
Why dont you guys complain and demand answers about the bugs?
Well said. TAC isn't over-powered, people use it because it has a nice reach. When it gets nerfed (the wheels are now in motion), people will complain about one of the other Proto ARs. The Nerf This Nerf That cycle is getting ridiculious.
Would you rather nerf the TAR or buff the other weapons?
C'mon guys, break the nerf cycle.. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
527
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:20:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:At least fix all the bugs before we focus on nerfs and buffs. Stop distracting them.
The OP TAR is a bug. A glaring one at that. |
Nariec
Carbon 7
23
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:21:00 -
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If a game is full of enemy LAVs, I would usually switch to my AV guy (ADV Swarm Launcher) find the highest mountain/building, drop some nanohives, and SPAM rockets like crazy, easy Kill and WP. lol |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1418
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:21:00 -
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SmileB4Death wrote:iceyburnz wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:TAC AR:
I use ARs, Gek and Duvolle. I get killed by tacs occasionaly but it never feels unfair or OP . Ive used the TAC and its not as versatile as the AR so i switched back.
LAVS:
Im a master at dodging an lav and when they do hit me its only once a game and i never felt the need to take them away because of it. The only reason you keep getting run over is because no one, not a single person, switches to av. Some guy sais 8 lavs were running around........i wish i was in that game wouldve been some easy kills and alot of fun just to see it.
Every other week theres a new QQ thread that catches on.
Why dont you guys complain and demand answers about the bugs?
Well said. TAC isn't over-powered, people use it because it has a nice reach. When it gets nerfed (the wheels are now in motion), people will complain about one of the other Proto ARs. The Nerf This Nerf That cycle is getting ridiculious. Would you rather nerf the TAR or buff the other weapons? C'mon guys, break the nerf cycle..
Buffing the other weapons will just further the game's decent into a CoD like twitch shooter. Serious matches where the entire enemy team is using the TAR already makes any strategy other than "if you can't beat them, join them" obsolete, because the damage they do is so high you can't really fill any of the other roles available on the field. Medics are worthless because everyone gets taken down in .7 seconds. The damage output on the TAR is so high, it melts heavies with only an extra shot or two vs an assault, negating the point in using one and slowing yourself down. It tags scouts so quickly that they can't even compete. You can't rez anyone with a nanite, because it only takes one shot to kill them again, before they can be repped. You can't rep tool someone fast enough to counter the high DPS of the TAR... on and on.
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Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
56
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:38:00 -
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If you're dying to 3-4 bullets from a TAR either your suit sucks or you're stacking damage mods and made the choice to have lower HP. Or they got 3-4 headshots. In which case, well they got 3-4 headshots, sucks for you.
Personally, I'd remove the 10% damage buff, increase hipfire spread about 15%, lower RPM to 300 or so and leave the rest alone. |
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