As everyone knows, I'm a pretty vocal Vehicle player (inb4whoruscrub?), I'm in favour of balancing everything and understand there are times when I will be brought to my knees by a single experienced forge gunner, but I'm getting tired of this horrible balancing from CCP.

Now before people come crawling out of their holes to defend how this is how Tanks should be, you have to answer a few questions.

Are you a specialized Vehicle/AV Player? (This means, have you dedicated yourself to one type of playstyle, not just added a couple of points into a Swarm Launcher and decided to call yourself the Tank Buster, nor are you a Tanker if you've got a sica with a rail and you're rolling thinking you're l33t because you red line snipe.)

Do you play PC? (Simple question)

These two questions will tell people enough. If you're not specialized, you have a very miniscule say in any Vehicle/AV debate, it is not your place to tell us how the vehicles and anti-vehicles should work, I won't whine about your AR, you don't whine about your swarms not killing a tank. Don't play PC? Again, not really qualified to talk about vehicle balance, PC changes the battlefield completely, with everyone pulling their best gear (Tanks being standard, AV being Officer.)

So the question, when do I get to go toe to toe with AVers?

Vehicles have a massive disadvantage at the minute, we have no way to compete against higher tier AV. Let's look at Vehicles and clear things up.

Militia Tank > Standard Tank (Enforcer Tanks come under this role, offering no real advantage other than slightly higher damage output, you cannot call this advanced.)

Militia LAV > Standard LAV (And Scout) > Logistics LAV (It's hench, let's admit it before someone cries.)

Militia Dropship > Standard Dropship (Assault/Logi included)

AV...

Militia Forge > Standard Forge > Advanced Forge > Prototype Forge > Officer Forge

Militia Swarms > Standard Swarms > Advanced Swarms > Prototype Swarms

Standard Plasma Cannon > Advanced Plasma Cannon > Prototype Plasma Cannon (Admittedly, these are awful.)

Standard AV Nades > Advanced AV Nades > Prototype AV Nades


Do we notice anything? Apart from the Logi LAV, no vehicle type has anything higher than a standard type vehicle, and let's be honest, this is the thing that is killing us, that is what's missing from the balance. Militia v Militia, it goes either way, Standard v Standard, Vehicles are survivable, anything above that usually means death to the Vehicle Player.

CCP needs to address this, and they need to offer a viable solution for it, it is not fun losing a vehicle simply because CCP hasn't put in the correct vehicles to combat the AV. If it needs to be done, AV tiers need to match Vehicle Tiers, resulting in standard AV fighting us.

TL;DR: Vehicle vs AV is pretty much balanced apart from Dropships and AV Grenades, we need the Advanced and Proto vehicles before CCP does any editing to the numbers.

But enough of my thoughts, speak to me on balance.