DOOO ITTTTT

But if you convince them to, you have to convince them to do a partial respec.

Say you went Amarr sentinal, but you want to be Gallente. You should have all those points refunded from racial dropsuits, so you can either put them back, or chose your new suit.

You're missing my point, I already have my respec coming :p

I'm saying, let's say you've put all your points into Amarr heavies, but all you want is Gallente heavies. Gallente heavy is released, you're now stuck with Amarr.

If they refund the SP spent on racial dropsuits, you can then go back and put the points in Amarr if you wanted to, or you can switch to Gallente.

You might not get that overwhelming support, since majority play medium frames with AR.
You will get a lot of heavy/scout players support, but most AR users might just ignore this.
I am sure we would be at page 55 if we were taking about some assault and logi suits.

Well, thanks for the info about a release time, i will play my militia for a while, until something happen

what don't you people understand about teh art department being the hold up, if we get a placeholder, it has to be in the form of an art concept already in the game...aka it will look like one of hte heavy suits that is already playable.

Everyone asking to change skin colors and do do this/that is missing the point that a place holder would LOOK the same and they would FUNCTION differently base on Race and meta level...

I wouldn't mind if it were Mr. Game&Watch sitting on my "Loadout" screen as long as I could see intended stats.

I love numbers, I love maths, and the sooner I get my hands on such things the sooner I can start sharing and conversing with the community ideas on what role they should fill and where a player interested in them might look to skill-spec.

Placeholders YES! Even if only to confirm Light > Pilot and Heavy > Commando suits. Even if only to confirm Minmatar and Caldari racial heavis and Amarr racial light.

Sentinels and scouts aren't basics, they are specializations. I know this may sound nit-picking but it's important to distinguish between light frame and scout as well as heavy frame and sentinel. You don't want to get into this mindset where you are balancing the light frame to be a scout then when you get to the actual scout suit nothing really changes beside bonuses, same with heavy to sentinel.

Unfortunately CCP is really into lore and will do things as they see fit towards it. Our only problem is we really need a point towards benefitting them. I am not talking about doomsaying either we need to make a ligitamate reason for them to do it. The game needs variety but the way it is now supports the game we have. So like I said until we get some comment from a Dev we need to build good points towards CCP not just us or the game


Also if you have made a good point remake it and lay it on good for them. Give them something to bite onto good.

Thanks for all the support guys, keep it coming :)

i know the next step, ill be bringing this to the next large CCP CPM meeting, though i dont know how much luck ill have with it.

Can you also bring focus to the fact that it sucks having my Assault Minmatar Suit be mistaken for a Logi and then be shot at for a while by friendlies seeking help?

Please complete current medium suit placeholders, then move on.

Need the weapons to go with the suits....

I`m ok with this, question, does this apply tot he commando and pilot drop suits and not just racial variants?

racial ARs atleast is my guess.

I see no point in place holder suits of any kind until there is a full range of bonused racial weaponry.

PAGES AND PAGES AND NO DEV REPLY! NOT ONE!

It was a dev idea origionally... quite sure there was an official thread in Feedback/requests...

Yeah... right now only the Amarr heavy frame model is complete. In Uprising we've started pushing all the suits more into specific race profiles, but of course when you're missing 75% of the other frame options you're bound to have some balance holes. The Caldari, Minmatar and Gallente heavy frames are coming, but not as soon as we'd all like.

To that point though, how would you guys like us to approach that? Would you want Type-IIs and more sidegrade variants to tide you over until the other suits come online? (Even knowing that we'll probably retire them once the others arrive?)

I'd think that CCP would give a refund to heavy skills when implemented

So whats the deal ccp

With a post this big, the lack of dev response IMO is more good news than bad. They haven't shot it down yet.

Well, I'm not sure if getting moved to Feedback is an improvement or not.