BetaMax. deserves it

so i woke up this morning to find a couple of frantic messages from one of my directors in skype lol

Looks like grief university hit us. Nice one dudes! I was asleep when this happened though i would have loved to see that! luckilly there was only a couple of people not in the battle on our side so it shouldnt be that hard to find the saboteur!

anyhoo! Well done guys :P

how is it a blue donut when most of you are against CRONOS.

you're confused with your own statement?

and no why would i be mad about metagaming and spais when eve is full of it.

1. Admit unknown noobs to the Corp, wait for the Awox.

2. Play it off cool, and show you can handle getting Awox'ed with tact.

3. Get a thread going to make the people who flipped out when you did it look bad.

Looks like Jenza is getting the hang of this PR management game, even if it's a bit transparent. Should have waited a few days in my opinion. Also it would be a little less obvious if you made an alt and posted it so it wasn't so transparent that you wanted everyone to know you got hit.

Also since it appears Nikia is peacocking in yet another thread that has nothing to do with us, might as well get in the spirit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4qOKybOKXs - 3 more days yay.

a bit surprising, but it was fun mass killing bluedots so warravens couldnt get their hands on any of the clones :P

so i woke up this morning to find a couple of frantic messages from one of my directors in skype lol

Looks like grief university hit us. Nice one dudes! I was asleep when this happened though i would have loved to see that! luckilly there was only a couple of people not in the battle on our side so it shouldnt be that hard to find the saboteur!

anyhoo! Well done guys :P

lol you have no idea on what's going on

1. Admit unknown noobs to the Corp, wait for the Awox.

2. Play it off cool, and show you can handle getting Awox'ed with tact.

3. Get a thread going to make the people who flipped out when you did it look bad.

Looks like Jenza is getting the hang of this PR management game, even if it's a bit transparent. Should have waited a few days in my opinion. Also it would be a little less obvious if you made an alt and posted it so it wasn't so transparent that you wanted everyone to know you got hit.

how is it a blue donut when most of you are against CRONOS.

Lol are you really talking are you sad we wiped u off the PC map in less than a week?

Or are you mad you picked the wrong side and got used?

I'm confused either way bad troll u know ur planet in hrober is still there if u want it... Lmao

so i woke up this morning to find a couple of frantic messages from one of my directors in skype lol

Looks like grief university hit us. Nice one dudes! I was asleep when this happened though i would have loved to see that! luckilly there was only a couple of people not in the battle on our side so it shouldnt be that hard to find the saboteur!

anyhoo! Well done guys :P

so i woke up this morning to find a couple of frantic messages from one of my directors in skype lol

Looks like grief university hit us. Nice one dudes! I was asleep when this happened though i would have loved to see that! luckilly there was only a couple of people not in the battle on our side so it shouldnt be that hard to find the saboteur!

anyhoo! Well done guys :P

so i woke up this morning to find a couple of frantic messages from one of my directors in skype lol

Looks like grief university hit us. Nice one dudes! I was asleep when this happened though i would have loved to see that! luckilly there was only a couple of people not in the battle on our side so it shouldnt be that hard to find the saboteur!

anyhoo! Well done guys :P

BetaMax. deserves it

Poor scrubs, still crying.

and here i was looking forward to a good fight tween GoD-nova and youngcuz :/

lol... why you not in Hellstorm bro?

Poor scrubs, still crying.

step on your own feet some more...

I mean seriously you are already considered a joke by most as being a CPM, seen on video being a saboteur, and now likely staging the same thing in a match u were gonna lose anyway so why not get something out of it right?

I'm very serious when I say that I'm forcing myself to give my respect to Kain, and by extension Imps, as he is at the VERY least trying to represent the CPM in a dignified manner.

I seriously think there is an internal competition for who can be the biggest FAIL on the CPM.. or who gets removed first.

way to once again represent the community jenza, don't forget the public showers are to the left..

I find the difference when people say "welcome to New Eden" Is that if you manage to infilitrate in EVE where they have the proper tools to do background checks, than you still must gain trust to go and be in the huge battles or even know about the battle plans that are to come, while in Dust everyone in the corp can see them and the leader cannot do a thing about who joins the PC battles. If you truely support this so called "meta gaming" Than try to fix it so you must gain trust and actually do some infiltration to be invited into doing a PC battle. Also in EVE if you do decide to fire on your own corp it is one ship that ahs to be blown up or maybe you have a team of people on the inside it is still just one kill than they are gone. In eve you just spawn until the game is done, which considering the whole game is based around clones unlike EVE where dying is just money and an inconvenience. Give the corps the proper tools to defend against it than I can see it being a legit tactic, until than it is using a broken game mechanic.

While I'm happy you decided to take a Goon's advice and learn that there are more tools than just the ingame ones, you may not want to be boasting how a corp lost members when your own members are amazingly incompetent at one of the determining factors for planetary control, which is being good at EVE.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/EoN./kills

Now, don't get mad and all, its just a fair assessment of your alliance's situation and again as many have been saying, fighting over Molden Heath isn't that great as its a single system in LowSec, and as anyone who knows EVE will tell you, NullSec is more of an ideal prize.

Well IWS had done a couple thngs here and there to help out, as a heavy you must know that.

And Nova is here and there, at least paying attention and listening... so there are Cpms who their job, besides kain of course. It just so happens that some people in power dont think like them.

You don't see us bragging about our EVE kills, but still 'amazingly incompetent'? Man that's harsh.... So far it hasn't held back our dust side at all though. Null sec will be different obviously.

its just a fair assessment of your alliance's situation

Im "doing my job" and im not staging anything. I made my position clear that im up for anything that makes this game anything other than a COD clone with some mmo elements.

Espionage is something that CCP has intended since this game was first conceived and im working to make it better. Is awoxing an exploit? No. Is it too easy? Yes.

Im just standing up for what I believe in and you seem to have a probem with that. I have been personally thanked for standing up and not bending to the will of butthurt COD players and actually trying to make a functional game with unique game mechanics.

There are so many different people out there and not everyone likes playing a game that is built on betrayal, lies, and thievery.

so i woke up this morning to find a couple of frantic messages from one of my directors in skype lol

Looks like grief university hit us. Nice one dudes! I was asleep when this happened though i would have loved to see that! luckilly there was only a couple of people not in the battle on our side so it shouldnt be that hard to find the saboteur!

anyhoo! Well done guys :P

Well as I said




Those are some embarrassing losses with some atrocious fits you guys are running. I would talk to your FC about fixing your fleet doctrines.

I was talking about your Alliance's overall presence in New Eden, and that simply ragging on another group for having a lower member count in DUST 514 isn't exactly the most impressive thing out there. Your EVE side support needs to be as good, if not better, at the various aspects of PVP in EVE than your DUST 514 soldiers to actually survive long term. That was the message I was trying to get across, just because you have some small accomplishments in DUST doesn't mean you'll last long.

Currently this game is in its infancy and the overly vocal with the minute "accomplishments" some of the groups have been lauding is thorough entertainment as they seem to think it matters long term.

Hi Jenza,

We were disappointed you weren't there, sorry we missed you! It was a good battle, but your guys gave up any hope of winning within the first 3 minutes and stopped trying, which took some of the fun away :( We then had a massacre inside the MCC, which was pretty entertaining. Hopefully you'll be seeing it soon, there's a video somewhere.

Failing is just the normal for Betamax now.

Which is all find and good, but then why pick up DUST 514 which is linked to EVE online (and a main selling point of the product) and has developers that actively support, and even promote, players betraying, lying and stealing from one another?

Well as I said




Those are some embarrassing losses with some atrocious fits you guys are running. I would talk to your FC about fixing your fleet doctrines.

I was talking about your Alliance's overall presence in New Eden, and that simply ragging on another group for having a lower member count in DUST 514 isn't exactly the most impressive thing out there. Your EVE side support needs to be as good, if not better, at the various aspects of PVP in EVE than your DUST 514 soldiers to actually survive long term. That was the message I was trying to get across, just because you have some small accomplishments in DUST doesn't mean you'll last long.

Currently this game is in its infancy and the overly vocal with the minute "accomplishments" some of the groups have been lauding is thorough entertainment as they seem to think it matters long term.

Well IWS had done a couple thngs here and there to help out, as a heavy you must know that.

And Nova is here and there, at least paying attention and listening... so there are Cpms who their job, besides kain of course. It just so happens that some people in power dont think like them.

Im "doing my job" and im not staging anything. I made my position clear that im up for anything that makes this game anything other than a COD clone with some mmo elements.

Espionage is something that CCP has intended since this game was first conceived and im working to make it better. Is awoxing an exploit? No. Is it too easy? Yes.

Im just standing up for what I believe in and you seem to have a probem with that. I have been personally thanked for standing up and not bending to the will of butthurt COD players and actually trying to make a functional game with unique game mechanics.

I was talking about your Alliance's overall presence in New Eden, and that simply ragging on another group for having a lower member count in DUST 514 isn't exactly the most impressive thing out there. Your EVE side support needs to be as good, if not better, at the various aspects of PVP in EVE than your DUST 514 soldiers to actually survive long term. That was the message I was trying to get across, just because you have some small accomplishments in DUST doesn't mean you'll last long.

Currently this game is in its infancy and the overly vocal with the minute "accomplishments" some of the groups have been lauding is thorough entertainment as they seem to think it matters long term.

Im "doing my job" and im not staging anything. I made my position clear that im up for anything that makes this game anything other than a COD clone with some mmo elements.

Espionage is something that CCP has intended since this game was first conceived and im working to make it better. Is awoxing an exploit? No. Is it too easy? Yes.

Im just standing up for what I believe in and you seem to have a probem with that. I have been personally thanked for standing up and not bending to the will of butthurt COD players and actually trying to make a functional game with unique game mechanics.

The needs of the few outway the needs of the many. You need to understand that you are a small drop in a very vast ocean

tbh just as u said lowsec isnt really the be all end all, its more of a time for us to show what we can do on the ground. When nullsec comes around lets be perfectly honest with one another..........no new power is gonna waltz into nullsec and gain space correct? So if this is true then null groups tbqh would be looking at capable mercs to bring within their ranks as they would already have vast amounts of EVE support.

In the long run EVE support in Molden Heath isnt really THAT important, its more a kool thing to have than a necessity same thing with when u look long term, doesnt matter what little inhouse fleet u have now when null drops and if u ally/work for one of the nullsec alliances EVE backing and support is taken care of same thing with meta-game, dont think any null group would want dust mercs metagaming for them in any large capacity haha they would just be concerned with how good u are on the ground

Goons have to buy there way into dust - no way they'd get in through skill Lol

But meta is a part of the game so give em a pat on the back for at least playing this half way through ;)

I am a player first and a CPM second. this is not my paid job and i reserve the right to play the game how i wish to play without being hassled by those who disagree with me.

Im just one person i cant reprisent the wishes of every single player in dust as there are always those with conflicting opinions, and indeed the community is very conflicted about awoxing. Thats why there are multiple CPMs with multiple opinions, and none of them think that awoxing is bad.

Just becasue i participate in activities you dont like, doesnt effect my ability as a CPM to do whats right for the game. Mittens, the CEO of goonswarm is one of the most controversial people in EVE. Love him or hate him, no one can deny that he was an amazing CSM rep who got **** done.

this is one of the dumbest insults ppl like to toss around "ohh its cod players"
im pretty sure most cod players if not all are actually playing COD and not on DUST
2ndly speaking u shouldnt even talk about making a functional game let alone talk anything FPS wise when ur FPS background is non existant. You are a casual player and most console games u have played arent even shooters so the fact tht u even think u know how to balance stuff or know how the FPS community is and how the console community is is disturbing.

No disrespect to u jenny but honestly speaking what exactly have u done to make dust better besides doin a live stream? What is the purpose of the CPM when the majority of the CPM dont understand the community they dealing with and have little knowledge on console shooters?

kool u played some EVE....nice......but playing EVE wont make DUST grow if u dont understand the community u trying to market the game to.

The only CPM i honestly have 100% faith in is Caz, Kain and prob Nova the others i do not.

You guys are a bunch of crybabies.

Jenza for president of world.

have an adult conversation without any baseless accusations.

Jenza, if I am not mistaken I had believed that CPM is a representative of the gamer majority and this be our issue. If this is true, listen to yourself rather read what you are saying. Is it in line with what we are saying? Are you representing us or your corp? If you want to be a gamer first that is fine, but don't come to the forums and defend yourself. If you don't want it, then give it yo CHICAGOCUBS4EVER or CEOPYREX or anyone else who can "get the **** done"

Jenza has literally gone around calling other players "dumbasses" and "********", among other ad hominem attacks to justify her joke of a position; she doesn't belong there, and she can't handle the community pressure, and has done nothing but ruin other player's experience with inside information almost exclusive to CPM members...rather than better the game for everyone, like the CPM should be doing.

Seriously, this unhygienic not-even-decent-looking chick needs to be given the boot.

and has done nothing but ruin other player's experience with inside information almost exclusive to CPM members...

Again, that was directed at the entire community which would, weirdly, include her. Please learn to read.

at least you seem to understand where im coming from. exactly, i was talking about anyone thinking having a CPM in their alliance giving them an advantage is a dumbass, and i stand by that comment.

Jenza has literally gone around calling other players "dumbasses" and "********", among other ad hominem attacks to justify her joke of a position; she doesn't belong there, and she can't handle the community pressure, and has done nothing but ruin other player's experience with inside information almost exclusive to CPM members...rather than better the game for everyone, like the CPM should be doing.

Seriously, this unhygienic not-even-decent-looking chick needs to be given the boot.

Again, that was directed at the entire community which would, weirdly, include her. Please learn to read.

Please explain? if its about that exploit with the districts not flipping properly i have allready explained that i had no part of that. If its about the awoxing, What information did i have access to?

Everyone knew that friendly fire was coming
Everyone knew you could bring outside people into a corp match

I fail to see what information i had to give me an advantage.

As for the other bullshit, keep that to yourself.

You spout insults and personal attacks

you're a dumbass.

Jenza should be voted life long empress of the CPM

That might be valid if your post had anything to do with Jenza being a horrible public representative. lolSA


Yes, I'm sure you had nothing to do with clones being reinforced despite a loss/districts not being flipped. Either way, it's pretty shady your corp/alliance were the first to exploit that and awoxing..as a public representative, you should have known your actions were going to be magnified and scrutinized by the public, and rather than handle things in a professional manner, you resort to name calling and less than constructive discussion on top of the fact you didn't want CCP to fix awoxing despite it taking the skill of a gorilla to pull off. How exactly are you helping the community, again?

You obviously can barely handle basic-level trolling about your appearance; if words on the internet from someone you'll never meet upsets you, maybe being a public representative isn't for you.

Thanks for not reading my post. I am not "happy" at how awoxing is right now and everyone on the CPM agrees its too easy and working on making it harder but not impossible. NO ONE on the CPM wants to make it impossible.

I think it's safe to say that this thread has run its course, and said course is into a *****-filled river replete with dead bodies.

I am a player first and a CPM second. this is not my paid job and i reserve the right to play the game how i wish to play without being hassled by those who disagree with me.

Im just one person i cant reprisent the wishes of every single player in dust as there are always those with conflicting opinions, and indeed the community is very conflicted about awoxing. Thats why there are multiple CPMs with multiple opinions, and none of them think that awoxing is bad.

Just becasue i participate in activities you dont like, doesnt effect my ability as a CPM to do whats right for the game. Mittens, the CEO of goonswarm is one of the most controversial people in EVE. Love him or hate him, no one can deny that he was an amazing CSM rep who got **** done.

I have removed some personal attacks from this thread.

I approve of this product and/or service.

Everybody wants someone they can manipulate in power

Goons approving someone? Yeeeaaaah

Everybody wants someone they can manipulate in power

Goons approving someone? Yeeeaaaah

Well yeah, wouldn't you?

The World is full of patsies being controlled by people in the background...that's politics. People don't want smart patsies though, they might figure out what's going on

Again, why wouldn't you? And you think we can only control Jenza and not other CPM members? That's cute.

never said I wouldn't...also never said anyone can't control other CPM members ... note "patsies" was plural and not singular.

Edit: your assumption of what i meant was cute.

Damn, you got me. Well played.

Who are you to say that this is what the majority wants? for all we know this is just the vocal few. i have seen people on both sides of the coin both agreeing and disagreeing, and like i said, the WHOLE CPM is for awoxing, and the WHOLE CPM believe its too easy right now (myself included) which is why we are working with CCP so to make it harder yet still possible.

The reason we have multiple CPM people is so that we have have people with multiple opinions and on this situation a consensus has already been made.

I am a player first and a CPM second. this is not my paid job and i reserve the right to play the game how i wish to play without being hassled by those who disagree with me.

Im just one person i cant reprisent the wishes of every single player in dust as there are always those with conflicting opinions, and indeed the community is very conflicted about awoxing. Thats why there are multiple CPMs with multiple opinions, and none of them think that awoxing is bad.

Just becasue i participate in activities you dont like, doesnt effect my ability as a CPM to do whats right for the game. Mittens, the CEO of goonswarm is one of the most controversial people in EVE. Love him or hate him, no one can deny that he was an amazing CSM rep who got **** done.

Also, did you really do what you did and expect not to be hassled? It was all fair play, but you couldn't have expected the community to be pleased with it.

I'm actually the only CPM member. All the CPM accounts are just my alts.

The truth must finally come out.

Im "doing my job" and im not staging anything. I made my position clear that im up for anything that makes this game anything other than a COD clone with some mmo elements.

Espionage is something that CCP has intended since this game was first conceived and im working to make it better. Is awoxing an exploit? No. Is it too easy? Yes.

Im just standing up for what I believe in and you seem to have a probem with that. I have been personally thanked for standing up and not bending to the will of butthurt COD players and actually trying to make a functional game with unique game mechanics.

Actually i kinda did, i knew there would be tears from the unexperienced but i expeced most of them to have begrudging congratulations and i did get a few of those to be fair

Can we get the title of this thread changed to "BetaMax got awox'd... Again" please?

Actually i kinda did, i knew there would be tears from the unexperienced but i expeced most of them to have begrudging congratulations and i did get a few of those to be fair

Ouch. Did they even make it an interesting AWOX or just a lame "lets leave the match" type of thing?

They really tried at first, but eventually they all just left the battle. By the time their MCC popped they were down to 40-something clones from 300.

They really tried at first, but eventually they all just left the battle. By the time their MCC popped they were down to 40-something clones from 300.

You guys are still one of my top corps ever <3