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Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 539	Posted - 2013.05.22 20:48:00 - [1] - Quote Hit some guy 3 times and didn't do any damage, the crosshair was red and I could see the effect that would usually indicate that he was being hit. The person I was hitting was walking backwards whereas I was walking towards him. What is this?!
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 276	Posted - 2013.05.22 20:55:00 - [2] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: Hit some guy 3 times and didn't do any damage, the crosshair was red and I could see the effect that would usually indicate that he was being hit. The person I was hitting was walking backwards whereas I was walking towards him. What is this?! There are bugs a plenty with them I hit a logi trying to rez his squadmate with four solid charged hits to no avail. He eventually rez'd his teammate and they killed me even tho i still hit them a couple more times with zero damage quick slashes. Also, you'll notice if you spam the quick slice attack it will eventually stop slashing and just make the noise. not good. A way around it is to mix a melee attack in there. And off topic- the crazy narrow FOV isn't helping anything.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 367	Posted - 2013.05.22 23:09:00 - [3] - Quote server lag. On your screen you are hitting him, to the server you are out of range.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 131	Posted - 2013.05.22 23:11:00 - [4] - Quote Nova knife is fine. He's probably on eve. .....that's not what you meant?
Goat of Dover Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 169	Posted - 2013.05.22 23:24:00 - [5] - Quote If you mean you blue sheilded him it has to do with the game you are bouncing off each other like way back in closed beta just its a lot smaller only enough to effect the effective range of your knife. I am not sure how right this is but it sure sounded good. huh huh
undeadsoldier90 Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 473	Posted - 2013.05.23 00:13:00 - [6] - Quote It has less to do with lag and more with range. Knives have a 2 meter range. The animation extends your reach a bit more than it should. So lets say with the animation you get 2.5 meters, the game does not register the dmg since you were outside of the 2 meters. This with hit detection makes knives hard to use. I have confirmed this with a few other knifers, and it seems the most logical way to explain this simply because if it was lag you would blue shield more.
Zeveross Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.05.23 00:18:00 - [7] - Quote Interesting, there's some server funnies going on then. In one of my recent matches it told me I got a 3.48m kill with my knives which I found to be odd. I think I was jump-slicing someone. Also, the "no slash" bug will sometimes happen when you run and jump at someone too. Super annoying. I've also had the slashing noise play AFTER I was dead, like it helped me much at that point!
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 277	Posted - 2013.05.23 00:28:00 - [8] - Quote undeadsoldier90 wrote: It has less to do with lag and more with range. Knives have a 2 meter range. The animation extends your reach a bit more than it should. So lets say with the animation you get 2.5 meters, the game does not register the dmg since you were outside of the 2 meters. This with hit detection makes knives hard to use. I have confirmed this with a few other knifers, and it seems the most logical way to explain this simply because if it was lag you would blue shield more. nah. I was point blank hitting the guy, adjusting around each time. Sometimes either hits do not register, or a sound plays and nothing happens. And sometimes, you get nothing at all. The worst is when you think you have a hit charged up and you release AND.... fizzle. Same for melee attacks as far as lagging out. It's pretty irritating. Probably the thing that gets me the worst is when i am hiding near a corner about to pounce on someone WHEN... I get stuck ot the wall and can't move until I jump, lose my charge, and ow it's a **** show slash match until I get him or I die. It can be very difficult to use stealth tactics when you stick to what you are hiding behind and you knife doesn't work right. most kills are a legitimate surprise.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 319	Posted - 2013.05.23 02:03:00 - [9] - Quote Yeah, stuff like this made me stop knifing. Also, this stuff happens when you and the person are standing still as well. I hit a sniper in the back of the head three times, no damage. Took the fourth hit till I actually got him. The knives are better then they were in Chromosome, though, they still suck for different reasons.
The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack 5	Posted - 2013.05.23 02:44:00 - [10] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, stuff like this made me stop knifing. Also, this stuff happens when you and the person are standing still as well. I hit a sniper in the back of the head three times, no damage. Took the fourth hit till I actually got him. The knives are better then they were in Chromosome, though, they still suck for different reasons. they need either a lunge atk or a hard lock on nuff said, u cant even get a clean kill 90% of the time because the enemy decides to move 1cm to the left or right making it miss altogether, sure the instant atks are great but there no point if ppl back peddle away from u while shooting u in the face :/ and scout suit are suppose to be fast (my ass)

mollerz s1ck3r Corp 277	Posted - 2013.05.23 03:06:00 - [11] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, stuff like this made me stop knifing. Also, this stuff happens when you and the person are standing still as well. I hit a sniper in the back of the head three times, no damage. Took the fourth hit till I actually got him. The knives are better then they were in Chromosome, though, they still suck for different reasons. they need either a lunge atk or a hard lock on nuff said, u cant even get a clean kill 90% of the time because the enemy decides to move 1cm to the left or right making it miss altogether, sure the instant atks are great but there no point if ppl back peddle away from u while shooting u in the face :/ and scout suit are suppose to be fast (my ass) Sprint charging would solve that. I mean give us a break. We are fighting people with shotguns :D
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 200	Posted - 2013.05.23 03:17:00 - [12] - Quote just keep swinging till you see +50
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 200	Posted - 2013.05.23 03:18:00 - [13] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, stuff like this made me stop knifing. Also, this stuff happens when you and the person are standing still as well. I hit a sniper in the back of the head three times, no damage. Took the fourth hit till I actually got him. The knives are better then they were in Chromosome, though, they still suck for different reasons. they need either a lunge atk or a hard lock on nuff said, u cant even get a clean kill 90% of the time because the enemy decides to move 1cm to the left or right making it miss altogether, sure the instant atks are great but there no point if ppl back peddle away from u while shooting u in the face :/ and scout suit are suppose to be fast (my ass) SMG ?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2399	Posted - 2013.05.23 03:49:00 - [14] - Quote I have noticed this problem recently. Hopefully CCP will resolve this as soon as possible. It is because of this that I have encountered many situations in which I should have killed that one merc running away from me.
The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack 5	Posted - 2013.05.23 06:03:00 - [15] - Quote Cpt Murd0ck wrote: The Final Fantasy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, stuff like this made me stop knifing. Also, this stuff happens when you and the person are standing still as well. I hit a sniper in the back of the head three times, no damage. Took the fourth hit till I actually got him. The knives are better then they were in Chromosome, though, they still suck for different reasons. they need either a lunge atk or a hard lock on nuff said, u cant even get a clean kill 90% of the time because the enemy decides to move 1cm to the left or right making it miss altogether, sure the instant atks are great but there no point if ppl back peddle away from u while shooting u in the face :/ and scout suit are suppose to be fast (my ass) SMG ? that would defeat the knife purpose wouldn't it besides no time to switch you'll die by the time u shoot 3 bullets anyway have u ever play scout they only have like 1 hp :/ specialy with them tac rifles
The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack 5	Posted - 2013.05.23 06:07:00 - [16] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I have noticed this problem recently. Hopefully CCP will resolve this as soon as possible. It is because of this that I have encountered many situations in which I should have killed that one merc running away from me. It would be kinda ok if we ran faster than the guy RUNNING BACKWARDS! the fact that we use a scout suit and speed mods and still we cant catch up to them
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 319	Posted - 2013.05.23 19:16:00 - [17] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Yeah, stuff like this made me stop knifing. Also, this stuff happens when you and the person are standing still as well. I hit a sniper in the back of the head three times, no damage. Took the fourth hit till I actually got him. The knives are better then they were in Chromosome, though, they still suck for different reasons. they need either a lunge atk or a hard lock on nuff said, u cant even get a clean kill 90% of the time because the enemy decides to move 1cm to the left or right making it miss altogether, sure the instant atks are great but there no point if ppl back peddle away from u while shooting u in the face :/ and scout suit are suppose to be fast (my ass) This^ Give a lunge, not much; maybe a one meter lunge. Though, I think a speed increase without any added aim assist would work just as well. I want fixes but I don't want commando knifing. I think we can all agree on that.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 278	Posted - 2013.05.23 19:31:00 - [18] - Quote I find that strafe jumping past them and slashing where i think they will be works really good. but every time i am in a chase the controls are just so clumsy it is impossible to try it on the run. I keep trying tho because it seems like with the right timing it could work. I've only started taking nova knifing so seriously. But in the last 3 days I've netted about 40 kills. It would be cool to see knife kills tracked. And to be able to take trophies. sigh.


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