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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Dust 514 vs Destiny

Traitwise its.

Destiny is:
Instanced (as in there is going to be multiple copies of the same 'location')
Borderlands Co-Op Styled Game play and thus a pesudo-MMO in the same facility that diablo III is.
Episodic
Classful System
1 Very Detailed Planet
Less than 1 years of lore on the table.
May not need sequel if done right over the next 10 years.

Dust 514
Is semi-instancing (that there will never be two battles on the same location AT the same time ever)
Currently Lobby Matching Shooter with MMO elements
Expanionsitic
'Classless' System
15,000 potential planets in a very detailed universe.
10+ years of lore going into it.
Will never have a sequel. Ever.

As for early previews of Destiney I am not feeling the vibe. The hero artwork is the most unheroic I have ever seen in most modern shooters where get labeled as such. The environmental and enemy artwork is FAR more interesting however and lore is an interesting concept if done properly would draw attention away.

Overall Just because Bungie is making it doesnt always means its going to be good, Game developers are more than capable of making a lemon and don't understand why. I mean Bungie is very dedicated to their games as are some fans are. I mean Halo 2 was considered the worst of the sequels to halo ever for a myriad of reasons.

I mean Gear Box managed to make one of the worst games of the year (well subcontracted out) Aliens Colonial marines.


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Garus Locke Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.22 20:12:00 - [1] - Quote How's everyone feel about this matchup? DUST has a dedicated team, I'd say the same about Bungie. Bungie has a HUGE level of expertise over DUST's team on shooters. Both have customization while Destiny seems to have the upper hand with customizable appearance vehicles and 3rd person player view in safe zones (to admire your custom armor and colors). I love that Destiny has space flight and combat, and that it's action oriented, not click click internal dice roll blah blah blah. Through the breakdown and when you consider the stunning graphics Destiny is showing I'm leaning more towards it. More experienced team for that genre, more customization, more features (including PvE). DUST is fun and all but with games like that coming this holiday season they'll really have to bring their game up a notch or they'll be offering low quality graphics, feature lacking versions of new games designed for a beast of a console. So here's hoping DUST can pick it up to at least match the upcoming titles since persistant world shooters seems to be the new big thing.
Garus Locke Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.22 20:43:00 - [2] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: Its a different type of game than DUST is. It looks like an enjoyable game, and I will try DESTINY. Will it pull me away completely from DUST? Probably not. How is it a different type of game? Both are multiplayer FPS games. Destiny just takes it a dozen steps further with a persistant world, space flight and combat, unique classes/abilities rather than a handful of gun types. Plus customizable vehicle appearances. Unless there's something I'm not seeing Destiny appears to have all the features of DUST plus a lot more, from a company with a MASSIVE shooter background which IMO is what puts DUST behind. The extremely limited amount of content they have seems to be a rollercoaster of nerfs and buffs with little balance. Totally not bashing DUST at all. I love my sci-fi and the more offerings there is the better, it just seems a bit lacking for the day and age it's in.
Garus Locke Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.22 20:55:00 - [3] - Quote TheReaper852 wrote: Destiny looks promising based off the creators of the game, the concept arts (make almost every game look good), and the little bit of ideas for the game shared to the public. No way to compare until I actually see gameplay or hear more about the gameplay mechanics and how the game is going to function. Then you have to judge the game based off it's system and where Dust is then. For all I know Destiny is going to give you a gun to go shoot bunnies on different planets. The concept art sure makes it look exciting but I'm sure this gameplay will be very uneventful. Starts 1 minute in. Destiny Press + Gameplay It's YouTube 'HD', so low res for everyone in the real world. Gives you a good idea though. Play on 480p and you get DUST's current graphics pretty much. I should add, look into interviews. PvP is a HUGE portion of Destiny.
Garus Locke Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.05.22 21:17:00 - [4] - Quote TheReaper852 wrote: Garus Locke wrote: TheReaper852 wrote: Destiny looks promising based off the creators of the game, the concept arts (make almost every game look good), and the little bit of ideas for the game shared to the public. No way to compare until I actually see gameplay or hear more about the gameplay mechanics and how the game is going to function. Then you have to judge the game based off it's system and where Dust is then. For all I know Destiny is going to give you a gun to go shoot bunnies on different planets. The concept art sure makes it look exciting but I'm sure this gameplay will be very uneventful. Starts 1 minute in. Destiny Press + Gameplay It's YouTube 'HD', so low res for everyone in the real world. Gives you a good idea though. Play on 480p and you get DUST's current graphics pretty much. I should add, look into interviews. PvP is a HUGE portion of Destiny. Thanks, I actually clicked that link before you gave it and skimmed through it skipping the 1 min of gameplay. It's still hardly anything, showing a character walk or reload doesn't tell me how the gameplay will be. You see a guy fire about one time which still doesn't show anything. True, but it does give a very good view of movement animations and environment detail which is breathtaking in my opinion. I don't have a ton of complaints about DUST, but the incredibly simple flat, landscapes with no detail that look straight out of a 10 year old game annoy the hell out of me.
Garus Locke Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.05.22 21:50:00 - [5] - Quote Schalac 17 wrote: Severance Pay wrote: I will probably play DUST between destiny load times I'm going to bet the PS4 will not have very many loading screens. Especially if you toss an SSD in it.
Garus Locke Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.05.22 23:00:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dust 514 vs Destiny Traitwise its. Destiny is: Instanced (as in there is going to be multiple copies of the same 'location') Borderlands Co-Op Styled Game play and thus a pesudo-MMO in the same facility that diablo III is. Episodic Classful System 1 Very Detailed Planet Less than 1 years of lore on the table. May not need sequel if done right over the next 10 years. Dust 514 Is semi-instancing (that there will never be two battles on the same location AT the same time ever) Currently Lobby Matching Shooter with MMO elements Expanionsitic 'Classless' System 15,000 potential planets in a very detailed universe. 10+ years of lore going into it. Will never have a sequel. Ever. As for early previews of Destiney I am not feeling the vibe. The hero artwork is the most unheroic I have ever seen in most modern shooters where get labeled as such. The environmental and enemy artwork is FAR more interesting however and lore is an interesting concept if done properly would draw attention away. Overall Just because Bungie is making it doesnt always means its going to be good, Game developers are more than capable of making a lemon and don't understand why. I mean Bungie is very dedicated to their games as are some fans are. I mean Halo 2 was considered the worst of the sequels to halo ever for a myriad of reasons. I mean Gear Box managed to make one of the worst games of the year (well subcontracted out) Aliens Colonial marines. Totally disagree with your breakdown. Press releases and interviews from February all the way until now have said it's a persistant world, not small instances. It has cities, not small lobbies. Every planet in earth's solar system is explorable, and you fly to it in your own spaceship, not instantly teleported from a tiny room to a small lobby to the same set of maps every time. And perhaps you should read up a bit more before making breakdowns like this and stating only 1 planet. You know, since the one super popular press video states ALL planets in earth's solar system are explorable... It has a huge PvP focus as stated in interviews plus open world PvP. Calling it CO-OP only is naive at best. Yes, it does have classes but DUST has defined armor suits and only a few weapon types which are pretty much set with what works best together. You only have the illusion of a classless system, but in reality you just have fewer weapon and armor types and can switch between them vs fully defined classes. And let's face it, how viable are all of DUST's weapons currently? How about DUST's vehicles? For what they cost I think it's ridiculous how easily they're killed with anti-vehicle weapons or grenades.
Garus Locke Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.05.23 01:59:00 - [7] - Quote Dust CEOM wrote: Sontie wrote: Dust 514 will be here in 10 years. Destiny won't. So play Destiny for a while, but you'll always be able to come back home. really No kidding. EVE has staying power because it fits a niche that nothing else does. Expecting a sub-par quality graphics FPS to last through comparable feature-wise (or far exceeding depending on what DUST actually adds) but much better looking PS4, 5 and maybe even 6 over the next 10 years is beyond dreaming.
Garus Locke Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2013.05.24 00:54:00 - [8] - Quote Sontie wrote: Dust 514 will be here in 10 years. Destiny won't. So play Destiny for a while, but you'll always be able to come back home. Well technically Destiny has signed a 10 year contract for once it goes live. Sooooo... Technically they're legally obligated to be up for a minimum of 10 years, and with the hundreds of millions of dollars Activision invested... So while DUST has nothing forcing it to work over the next 10 years, Destiny doesn't have the option not to.