DUST Search - laser rifles lament

Baal Entreri wrote:

so this is my first complaint in playing this game which so far I've liked, but here we go you completely killed my gun. The laser rifle does the exact same damage throughout all of its variations, which is far to low to even compare to these assault rifles that outrange me and out damage me in any scenario. Which is made worse by the fact the aimer you added actually blocks my vision of the shot so now i can't even use it as a weapon.... its good you changed its bullets blue because effectivly you've made a supersoaker that shoots windex in peoples eyes.... also the major difference between the level 1 laser rifle and the visiam is i can kill myself with it if it overheats.... at least it damages someone

To put this into perspective I have gotten more kills with a tier 1 nova knife than I have with a visiam laser rifle in the last few days. Doesn't that sound odd? I know it was powerful before and i agree it should have had its damage down a little but this aimer is just overkill! I realise how ridiculous that sounds but can you please remove the aimer on the laser rifle so i can see where I'm even shooting

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Baal Entreri BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 0	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:36:00 - [1] - Quote so this is my first complaint in playing this game which so far I've liked, but here we go you completely killed my gun. The laser rifle does the exact same damage throughout all of its variations, which is far to low to even compare to these assault rifles that outrange me and out damage me in any scenario. Which is made worse by the fact the aimer you added actually blocks my vision of the shot so now i can't even use it as a weapon.... its good you changed its bullets blue because effectivly you've made a supersoaker that shoots windex in peoples eyes.... also the major difference between the level 1 laser rifle and the visiam is i can kill myself with it if it overheats.... at least it damages someone
Bob Amarrley KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.05.26 16:00:00 - [2] - Quote Baal Entreri wrote: so this is my first complaint in playing this game which so far I've liked, but here we go you completely killed my gun. The laser rifle does the exact same damage throughout all of its variations, which is far to low to even compare to these assault rifles that outrange me and out damage me in any scenario. Which is made worse by the fact the aimer you added actually blocks my vision of the shot so now i can't even use it as a weapon.... its good you changed its bullets blue because effectivly you've made a supersoaker that shoots windex in peoples eyes.... also the major difference between the level 1 laser rifle and the visiam is i can kill myself with it if it overheats.... at least it damages someone To put this into perspective I have gotten more kills with a tier 1 nova knife than I have with a visiam laser rifle in the last few days. Doesn't that sound odd? I know it was powerful before and i agree it should have had its damage down a little but this aimer is just overkill! I realise how ridiculous that sounds but can you please remove the aimer on the laser rifle so i can see where I'm even shooting Agree wholeheartedly. No one even responded to this guy? Lasers are doomed.
Dust HaHakoke Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2013.05.26 16:14:00 - [3] - Quote Personally i cant figure out why using the iron sights is hard no this isnt a troll
Green Living PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 313	Posted - 2013.05.26 16:32:00 - [4] - Quote Dust HaHakoke wrote: Personally i cant figure out why using the iron sights is hard no this isnt a troll Go ahead and try the LR iron sights and tell me what you think? Can you see through the haze? Having trouble tracking your target with the huge obstructive iron sight?
Dust HaHakoke Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2013.05.26 16:47:00 - [5] - Quote Green Living wrote: Dust HaHakoke wrote: Personally i cant figure out why using the iron sights is hard no this isnt a troll Go ahead and try the LR iron sights and tell me what you think? Can you see through the haze? Having trouble tracking your target with the huge obstructive iron sight? Ive tried it and yes i can actually see to fire... i still have no idea how but i can
Iago Templar SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 10	Posted - 2013.05.26 18:48:00 - [6] - Quote I am really upset by the over nerf of the Lay-Zor Rifle. I can't hit for toffee now as the sight (despite HaHakoke's assertion) is complete bunkum, seriously if this was the main armament of the Amarr Empire they'd collapse in a week. Personally I really really want them to remove the sight, the other issues with the LR (short range, not as powerful as anything, arrow pointing out your position etc) could be mitigated but if I can't see what I'm shooting at its unusable. Now I'm gonna stick with it partly because I'm fatalistic, mostly because I'm stubborn, but also because I have faith in CCP to see whats going on with the gun and to FIX IT, but seriously HURRY UP I'm losing faith guys. Meanwhile I'm gonna check out this Scrambler rifle see what thats like as another option.
drake sadani Tacti-corp 48	Posted - 2013.05.26 18:54:00 - [7] - Quote Iago Templar wrote: I am really upset by the over nerf of the Lay-Zor Rifle. I can't hit for toffee now as the sight (despite HaHakoke's assertion) is complete bunkum, seriously if this was the main armament of the Amarr Empire they'd collapse in a week. . never underestimate religious zealotry . it gives people the ability to kill with a dull spoon and i have not used the laser however i used to fear them . but now when i see one i just walk through it and kill the user so from a scrambler user point of view i agree this needs a buff and fix
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 303	Posted - 2013.05.26 19:07:00 - [8] - Quote Imo the laser rifle would be fine with the scrambler rifle sight and a bit more range.
Bob Amarrley KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.05.26 19:31:00 - [9] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: Imo the laser rifle would be fine with the scrambler rifle sight and a bit more range. The sight is fine even, just get rid of the haze so I know if my target moves. And yeah...a little range.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1633	Posted - 2013.05.26 20:02:00 - [10] - Quote Baal Entreri wrote: so this is my first complaint in playing this game which so far I've liked, but here we go you completely killed my gun. The laser rifle does the exact same damage throughout all of its variations, which is far to low to even compare to these assault rifles that outrange me and out damage me in any scenario. Which is made worse by the fact the aimer you added actually blocks my vision of the shot so now i can't even use it as a weapon.... its good you changed its bullets blue because effectivly you've made a supersoaker that shoots windex in peoples eyes.... also the major difference between the level 1 laser rifle and the visiam is i can kill myself with it if it overheats.... at least it damages someone To put this into perspective I have gotten more kills with a tier 1 nova knife than I have with a visiam laser rifle in the last few days. Doesn't that sound odd? I know it was powerful before and i agree it should have had its damage down a little but this aimer is just overkill! I realise how ridiculous that sounds but can you please remove the aimer on the laser rifle so i can see where I'm even shooting Laser Rifles got the biggest nutshot of any weapon to date. I mean, just as one example, who the hell complained about the camera sight? Why would you want a weapon like that to use ironsights? It has no stock! At a minimum, the camera-sight needs to come back, maybe in a more visually detailed form since some people probably complained about just having a dot in the middle of the screen, even if that is nit-picking to the extreme.

Belendur Balfour Silver Gryphons Inc DARKSTAR ARMY 14	Posted - 2013.05.26 21:34:00 - [11] - Quote I agree, the site sucks, cannot track targets very well at all. And yes, I too just run through a laser beam and kill the guy using. Scrambler Rifle sites or SMG sites, or something similiar is needed so you can see what you are shooting and track the target. A range buff would make it alot more useable too. Also, it should get at least a little damage bonus per level, as every other weapon does. And the overheat damage going up per level? It is exactly the same on the Scrambler Rifles, so why does the laser go up in heat damage per level?
KrazyEyeKilla Greek Death Squad 6	Posted - 2013.05.26 21:49:00 - [12] - Quote Agree with everyone here. Doesn't compare at all to other proto variants like duvolle etc in terms of effectiveness. There should a marginal increase in damage from advanced to proto.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 288	Posted - 2013.05.26 23:02:00 - [13] - Quote Any one of these suggestions would work. Standard has less glow, advanced removes the iron site and Viziams should get good range; any combination or variation would make all of them better. I use a LR almost all the time and they are good but they have too many drawbacks. They damage the user and seize up, they only work well at one specific range, they do little damage unless they're about to explode, excessive glow, slow track speed, they give away the users position and the iron sites are obstructive. They also overheat fast, I just want a weapon that isn't more dangerous to me than the enemies.
TonYtigr Les Rebelles A Qc 26	Posted - 2013.05.26 23:14:00 - [14] - Quote I am quite happy to see more and more threads regarding the laser. I guess it really means that something has to be adjusted on this weapon. I did an inventory of the laser rifle threads into this post. Hopefully we will get some feedback from CCP.


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