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Xender17 Oblivion S.G.X 85	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:41:00 - [1] - Quote Did you guys hear that sony's shares surged by 8% after the xbox event? Even Nintendo rose by 2%. Microsoft lost only .3-.5% I just thought this was funny.
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 672	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:42:00 - [2] - Quote It's a little sad that the Xbox One made such terrible first impressions that it gave Sony and Nintendo a boost. Microsoft, just in case you're listening, help out the gaming industry and keep on doing what you're doing.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1088	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:43:00 - [3] - Quote Can CoD and BF be an Xbox exclusive now? They can all go down in the same ship.
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 110	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:44:00 - [4] - Quote I had expected a meh piece of tech and was somewhat underwhelmed. On the other hand i'm somewhat skeptical of this next console generation.
BatKing Deltor Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY 26	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:49:00 - [5] - Quote Xbox sucks, simple. One of my friends think otherwise but oh well...
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 112	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:49:00 - [6] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: It's a little sad that the Xbox One made such terrible first impressions that it gave Sony and Nintendo a boost. Microsoft, just in case you're listening, help out the gaming industry and keep on doing what you're doing. I don't think Microsoft is all that interested in supporting the gaming industry right now. They seem hellbent on getting a foot on markets they lost for good years ago. I'm actually hoping that the linux hype miraculously takes off this time because gaming is the only thing they still have an iron grip upon due to directx. They don't deserve this position anymore.
MONKEY CHEEKS Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:50:00 - [7] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Can CoD and BF be an Xbox exclusive now? They can all go down in the same ship. BF is awesome.... well its not competitive its just a troll game i love so dearly
Xender17 Oblivion S.G.X 85	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:51:00 - [8] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Can CoD and BF be an Xbox exclusive now? They can all go down in the same ship. You want the sea poisoned so dem COD fishes go away? Good man.
Sinjii Ray Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 8	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:52:00 - [9] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: I had expected a meh piece of tech and was somewhat underwhelmed. On the other hand i'm somewhat skeptical of this next console generation. What are you talking about.... XBOX One has Blu-Ray now
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 672	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:52:00 - [10] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: I had expected a meh piece of tech and was somewhat underwhelmed. On the other hand i'm somewhat skeptical of this next console generation. Some of the stuff I've been seeing for the new PS4 looks pretty impressive. Knack, a new action game they're launching with the system, looks like it might be interesting and it shows off some of the rendering capabilities of the new system. Of course, Sony has an edge just because they actually talked about the gaming part of their console, which is what the majority of console owners are most interested in.

Xender17 Oblivion S.G.X 86	Posted - 2013.05.22 02:59:00 - [11] - Quote Sinjii Ray wrote: Malkai Inos wrote: I had expected a meh piece of tech and was somewhat underwhelmed. On the other hand i'm somewhat skeptical of this next console generation. What are you talking about.... XBOX One has Blu-Ray now Ps4 has Blu-ray and DVD. More helpful than you think though.
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 67	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:00:00 - [12] - Quote The next gens all look terrible. Every generation has marked a new advancement in consoles. From 8 bit to 16, from cartridge to disk, from DVD to Blu-ray and wireless controllers. But, there will be stabbings at Wal-mart during Christmas over the first run, overpriced, prone to fail units.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3933	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:00:00 - [13] - Quote Was never an Xbox person for many reasons, but I tried to listen to the reveal with an open mind. Focus on multimedia instead of gaming, Kinect without any good Kinect games shown, Only shown 3 games, and the only one that looked new and vaguely interesting; we barely saw any of it. Tech is inferior to PS4.
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 113	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:04:00 - [14] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: The next gens all look terrible. Every generation has marked a new advancement in consoles. From 8 bit to 16, from cartridge to disk, from DVD to Blu-ray and wireless controllers. But, there will be stabbings at Wal-mart during Christmas over the first run, overpriced, prone to fail units. The Xbox One and what little could be seen of the PS4 outright scream heat issues, literally half the console is a venting area.
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 673	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:07:00 - [15] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: Rynoceros wrote: The next gens all look terrible. Every generation has marked a new advancement in consoles. From 8 bit to 16, from cartridge to disk, from DVD to Blu-ray and wireless controllers. But, there will be stabbings at Wal-mart during Christmas over the first run, overpriced, prone to fail units. The Xbox One and what little could be seen of the PS4 outright scream heat issues, literally half the console is a venting area. That might actually be a step to solve the heating issues the last gen had. The PS3 barely has any air intakes and it runs pretty damn hot every time I turn it on.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 36	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:15:00 - [16] - Quote PS4 has the hype lead now - E3 will determine who has the real momentum but MS will keep a good install base by securing the Activision and EA dlc first option. If the PS4 really is the more powerful system (all the MS overhead dashboard cutting into resources) then the 2nd wave of PS4 games will sway everyone from then on and consolidate their position. I think Sony looks set but none of us have really seen actual games running on actual systems.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4528	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:17:00 - [17] - Quote They only showed like what? 2 games?
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1089	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:17:00 - [18] - Quote Xbox will be DoA and Sony vs Nintendo will be the new Sega vs Nintendo of the 90's. Calling it now.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 36	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:21:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: They only showed like what? 2 games? If you could call it that - it looked like all CGI uber scripted fluff
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 113	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:21:00 - [20] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: Malkai Inos wrote: Rynoceros wrote: The next gens all look terrible. Every generation has marked a new advancement in consoles. From 8 bit to 16, from cartridge to disk, from DVD to Blu-ray and wireless controllers. But, there will be stabbings at Wal-mart during Christmas over the first run, overpriced, prone to fail units. The Xbox One and what little could be seen of the PS4 outright scream heat issues, literally half the console is a venting area. That might actually be a step to solve the heating issues the last gen had. The PS3 barely has any air intakes and it runs pretty damn hot every time I turn it on. I'm really afraid these intakes represent the bare minimum of what is needed to get this revision survive the guarantee period. Intakes usually weaken structure and need more/stronger material to keep the box from breaking. This is often expensive and manufacturers are often hesitant to pay more than needed, even if it's just a few cents per unit. We'll see if microsoft and sony are genuinely fed up with machines breaking earlier than necessary but i try to maintain a skeptical/pragmatic position when it comes to corporate decisions.

Setaceous Prime Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:30:00 - [21] - Quote I dunno about Sony, there seems to be an air of desperation with the new "reveal" video they released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxWwxbVGbpg That being said - the XBox One looks like a HTPC built with off the shelf parts from Newegg.
jin foxdale Kigurosaka Corporation Insurance Fraud. 11	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:34:00 - [22] - Quote I know Xbox One (stupid name btw, its the third one.) has Blu-ray, but how does that work? If I'm being ignorant then please, forgive me and be gentle, but don't Sony have a lot of uh, holding, or stock, or rights or whatever with Blu-ray? wasn't that the problem with the 360 - that they wanted to put an add-on Blu-ray on it but couldn't because Sony wanted a shed load of cash to allow it? Again, sorry if I'm wrong, the conversation was a loooong time ago with an Xbox fanboy. (you reading this heartbreak? ha!)
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4531	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:37:00 - [23] - Quote jin foxdale wrote: I know Xbox One (stupid name btw, its the third one.) has Blu-ray, but how does that work? If I'm being ignorant then please, forgive me and be gentle, but don't Sony have a lot of uh, holding, or stock, or rights or whatever with Blu-ray? wasn't that the problem with the 360 - that they wanted to put an add-on Blu-ray on it but couldn't because Sony wanted a shed load of cash to allow it? Again, sorry if I'm wrong, the conversation was a loooong time ago with an Xbox fanboy. (you reading this heartbreak? ha!) Sony gets royalties for other manufacturers granted permission to build the base tech of their device and pay licensing fees likely to stamp blue ray and keep in standards. Think of it this way. For every xbox microsoft sells. Sony gets 5$ of it or something like that.
Setaceous Prime Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:42:00 - [24] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: jin foxdale wrote: I know Xbox One (stupid name btw, its the third one.) has Blu-ray, but how does that work? If I'm being ignorant then please, forgive me and be gentle, but don't Sony have a lot of uh, holding, or stock, or rights or whatever with Blu-ray? wasn't that the problem with the 360 - that they wanted to put an add-on Blu-ray on it but couldn't because Sony wanted a shed load of cash to allow it? Again, sorry if I'm wrong, the conversation was a loooong time ago with an Xbox fanboy. (you reading this heartbreak? ha!) Sony gets royalties for other manufacturers granted permission to build the base tech of their device and pay licensing fees likely to stamp blue ray and keep in standards. Think of it this way. For every xbox microsoft sells. Sony gets 5$ of it or something like that. Everyone has patent royalty agreements with everyone else in IT. I'm pretty sure Microsoft gets a massive chunk of money from Android handsets.
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 113	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:42:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: jin foxdale wrote: I know Xbox One (stupid name btw, its the third one.) has Blu-ray, but how does that work? If I'm being ignorant then please, forgive me and be gentle, but don't Sony have a lot of uh, holding, or stock, or rights or whatever with Blu-ray? wasn't that the problem with the 360 - that they wanted to put an add-on Blu-ray on it but couldn't because Sony wanted a shed load of cash to allow it? Again, sorry if I'm wrong, the conversation was a loooong time ago with an Xbox fanboy. (you reading this heartbreak? ha!) Sony gets royalties for other manufacturers granted permission to build the base tech of their device and pay licensing fees likely to stamp blue ray and keep in standards. Think of it this way. For every xbox microsoft sells. Sony gets 5$ of it or something like that. That's the sole reason why Microsoft wanted the HDDVD in the first place. BETAMAX anyone?
jin foxdale Kigurosaka Corporation Insurance Fraud. 11	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:42:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: jin foxdale wrote: I know Xbox One (stupid name btw, its the third one.) has Blu-ray, but how does that work? If I'm being ignorant then please, forgive me and be gentle, but don't Sony have a lot of uh, holding, or stock, or rights or whatever with Blu-ray? wasn't that the problem with the 360 - that they wanted to put an add-on Blu-ray on it but couldn't because Sony wanted a shed load of cash to allow it? Again, sorry if I'm wrong, the conversation was a loooong time ago with an Xbox fanboy. (you reading this heartbreak? ha!) Sony gets royalties for other manufacturers granted permission to build the base tech of their device and pay licensing fees likely to stamp blue ray and keep in standards. Think of it this way. For every xbox microsoft sells. Sony gets 5$ of it or something like that. marvellous!
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1062	Posted - 2013.05.22 03:55:00 - [27] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: Malkai Inos wrote: I had expected a meh piece of tech and was somewhat underwhelmed. On the other hand i'm somewhat skeptical of this next console generation. Some of the stuff I've been seeing for the new PS4 looks pretty impressive. Knack, a new action game they're launching with the system, looks like it might be interesting and it shows off some of the rendering capabilities of the new system. Of course, Sony has an edge just because they actually talked about the gaming part of their console, which is what the majority of console owners are most interested in. Nah bro, gamers want another level of BS to go through just to watch tv on a cable box that looks like a 1980's VCR.
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 98	Posted - 2013.05.22 04:15:00 - [28] - Quote The Xbox1 reveal was a joke. Sony came out firing all guns blazing and laser focused on games. MS came out farting on about TV. I know that it was announced that 21st would be about the future of xbox and E3 would be about the games, but first impressions last. There are what, 19 days till E3? All people have to talk about is a couple of trailers. Nothing showed screamed "next gen!" to me either. It was clear where MS was headed by looking at this gen. MS aren't in direct competition with Sony anymore, it's a battle against Apple and Google. Xbox1 will be a jack of all trades and a master of none. PS4 will be the console for gamers who want a master, not a jack. :D
Synthetic Surrogate Venilen Eugenics Agency 51	Posted - 2013.05.22 04:18:00 - [29] - Quote Microsoft is obviously trolling the gaming industry with this new system. Trolling independent developers must have got old, so they are now going after the whole sha-bang this year.
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 114	Posted - 2013.05.22 04:32:00 - [30] - Quote Synthetic Surrogate wrote: Microsoft is obviously trolling the entire gaming industry with this new system. Trolling independent developers must have got old, so they are now going after the whole sha-bang this year. EDIT I still feel as if this whole thing is an odd joke.. Like at E3 they will be like "Just kidding, here is the real one." Mircrosoft is trolling not only the gaming community but also their entire corporate costumerbase and the vast majority of their manufacturing partners. One could argue that big MS is eagerly working on alienating all the customers that secured their quasi monopol over the (yet) largest segment of the IT market.

DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 261	Posted - 2013.05.22 04:42:00 - [31] - Quote Sinjii Ray wrote: Malkai Inos wrote: I had expected a meh piece of tech and was somewhat underwhelmed. On the other hand i'm somewhat skeptical of this next console generation. What are you talking about.... XBOX One has Blu-Ray now Anyone remember that stupid HD DVD attachment? I still lol about that.
Ivy Ivanovic Ivanovski Commando Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.05.22 04:58:00 - [32] - Quote well... Xbox One-Playstation Four. (ifyouknowwhatimean)
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 684	Posted - 2013.05.22 05:40:00 - [33] - Quote Ivy Ivanovic Ivanovski wrote: well... Xbox One-Playstation Four. (ifyouknowwhatimean) And a thousand points to Ryan.
Kalante Schiffer Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 292	Posted - 2013.05.22 06:15:00 - [34] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Can CoD and BF be an Xbox exclusive now? They can all go down in the same ship. oh please cod has hurt the gaming community so much.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 272	Posted - 2013.05.22 07:04:00 - [35] - Quote jin foxdale wrote: I know Xbox One (stupid name btw, its the third one.) has Blu-ray, but how does that work? If I'm being ignorant then please, forgive me and be gentle, but don't Sony have a lot of uh, holding, or stock, or rights or whatever with Blu-ray? wasn't that the problem with the 360 - that they wanted to put an add-on Blu-ray on it but couldn't because Sony wanted a shed load of cash to allow it? Again, sorry if I'm wrong, the conversation was a loooong time ago with an Xbox fanboy. (you reading this heartbreak? ha!) Watch the windows 8 video and most have Sony products.
xaerael Kabiel Goonfeet 108	Posted - 2013.05.22 11:31:00 - [36] - Quote Ok, So I own a Wii (not a Wii U, we'll get on to that later), PS3 and a 360. I'm a believer in not playing "console warz" because it's dumb, and limits your pool of entertainment. I buy my consoles on, or as close to as possible, their release day. Currently sat under my TV are the following: Dreamcast PS1 PS2 (chipped for international releases) PS3 Xbox Xbox 360 Wii In the time I've had this current set up, These are the consoles I've used: Dreamcast PS2 (mainly to play PS1 games) PS3 Xbox (purely for Steel battalion and JSRF (which runs badly emulated on 360)) Xbox 360 But, let's add one more factor in: let's say I never played Dust... Dreamcast PS2 (mainly to play PS1 games) Xbox (purely for Steel battalion and JSRF (which runs badly emulated on 360)) Xbox 360 I'm sorry to say it, and I say it as a playstation owner (and saturn for that matter) from before they even hit the UK (I had a japanese import of both) But the PS3 is a failure in my eyes. Before Dust came out, mine was mostly used for watching BBC iPlayer stuff. Saying things like the Xbox will be worse/will fail/etc is dumb. It's stupid Sony fanboyism, just as saying the opposite. The game content for each console will be near enough identical, the only differences will be the ever decreasing pool of exclusives. Currently, the Xbox one has far more features than the PS4, and could be what swings people who only buy one console's decisions. Saying Microsoft has to pay Sony for each Bluray drive is really silly too... The Dreamcast ran on Windows CE, and I'm betting there's a fair bit of Microsoft programme engineering going into the PS4 considering they want it to be closer to a PC. Besides, I'm sure Microsoft doesn't mind the cash they get from Sony pre-installing the latest copy of Windows on every Vaio... tl;dr: don't console fanboy. It's really silly, and multi-platform owners like me just shake our heads in despair of the myopic opinions. And for those who held on for the comment about the Wii U, My Wii has sat rotting for almost 3 years. Nintendo have lost the plot and are too focused on gimmick gaming.


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