Xbox is **** with the always connected spiel. PS4 all the way. Also we have Hideo Kojima.

As for the new xbox, it looks and sounds garbage, plagiarising ideas from Sony and Nintendo and pretending they're original is quite sickening.

You do realize that you are playing Dust 514 which is a copy of Halo right?

lmao copy of halo, you're a copy of an idiot clearly.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4352314/xbox-one-hard-drive-game-installs

It's not a game console, its a "media center". Either way, I'm pretty sure Microsoft has completelt jumped ship with this, they are trying to cater to too many consumers. Sony can make the PS4 more video game focused because their entire business is based in the media center. No need to have your game console do so many things when you have tvs, bluray players, computers, stereos, etc. To do all of that.

Requiring a connection IS the issue.

Internet can drop (for whatever reason) and you have a $400 table furnishing till it resumes

Hey, don't forget getting kicked out of your active game without being able to save!

I'm not a Call of Duty fan

But damn

Ghosts looks like sex

DUST has a very very long way to go.

Doesn't mean I won't be along for the ride

I wonder how lending games to friends is going to work, do they need to pay money to play them too?

They should.

If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it.

Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy?

So if you lend a book or a BD to a friend, you're pirating. That makes sense

They should.

If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it.

Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy?

Lending something is not piracy, as you don't duplicate the media. If I loan it to someone, I can't play it anymore.

http://n4g.com/news/1261976/no-live-tv-kinect-functions-outside-us-at-launch-for-xbox-one

guess that was half of the features down the drain.

It's not a game console, its a "media center".

The argument against piracy isn't about whether or not you can replay your game, rewatch your movie, or reread your book. It's about people paying for the right to consume the media. Again, it's not MY argument, but it is THE argument.

It's illegal to pirate a copy of a game, book, movie, etc because the person who will be getting the product for free is not paying for the content. THAT is the supposed problem of piracy. I don't care if you can't reread your book or replay your game, you already read it, or already played it. You consumed the media, and now someone else is consuming the media for free.

The physical medium is no longer relevant to discussion of piracy and intellectual rights, because we've seen time and time again that the digital information devoid of a physical delivery medium consistently priced AT or ABOVE the price of the same information when it is delivered to us attached to a physical medium. The only difference between a CD and a FLAC digital album is the medium the information is being held on. For a video game (for example), if you buy the newest CoD at gamestop delivered to you on a $0.10 piece of plastic, you pay $59.99, if you buy the newest CoD straight from PSN, without the plastic container, you still pay $59.99.

It follows then that what we are paying for is the digital rights in each case, not the piece of plastic the game comes on.

If, for the digital medium, the rules are that we are paying for "the right to consume", then it follows that a video game purchased on a plastic disc should be viewed within the same context. If you are pro-lending, the natural and obvious logical conclusion is that you are pro-piracy. I personally am both.

Who else is excited for the next round of overpriced mid-range PCs from Microsoft and Sony?

*crickets*

When I buy something, I have the right to do whatever the f*** I want to do with it. End of story.
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People like you [Baal] are sending the industry down the drain.

If this is a copy of halo, arma is a cod copy.

A $400 PC does not have the specs the PS4 has...so it is a CHEAP mid-ranged PC with a good GFX card in it.

Also a PS3 and an Xbox can both play Crysis 3...try and find a $200 to $300 PC made 5 years ago that can play Crysis 3.

Comparing Gaming power per dollar spent consoles win every time.

Baal are you trolling or just stupid?


When I buy something, I have the right to do whatever the f*** I want to do with it. End of story.

They've already implemented online passes, in which you pay for the ability to use the online service.


In that same definition that you're using, NOTHING you have belongs to you, you merely "rent" it.

People like you are sending the industry down the drain.

I used to be die-hard PS1 and PS2, then 360 after the PS3's ridiculous launch price. After the first slim PS3's came out I got one and have rarely looked back. The only reason I play Xbox is to play with my brother who lives in England while I'm working abroad, and I haven't done that in a few months.

As for the new xbox, it looks and sounds garbage, plagiarising ideas from Sony and Nintendo and pretending they're original is quite sickening.

Tl;dr - *Yawn*

A $400 PC does not have the specs the PS4 has...so it is a CHEAP mid-ranged PC with a good GFX card in it.

Also a PS3 and an Xbox can both play Crysis 3...try and find a $200 to $300 PC made 5 years ago that can play Crysis 3.

Comparing Gaming power per dollar spent consoles win every time.

A $400 PC does not have the specs the PS4 has...so it is a CHEAP mid-ranged PC with a good GFX card in it.

Also a PS3 and an Xbox can both play Crysis 3...try and find a $200 to $300 PC made 5 years ago that can play Crysis 3.

Comparing Gaming power per dollar spent consoles win every time.

AMD FX-8350 8 Core CPU $200 Bucks at New Egg
ASUS GTX 660 $191 on Newegg

Assuming I put these items in an existing case I've met or surpassed at least the PS4, since MS hasn't released any information concerning the X1 GPU, hard to say, but I've probably met or exceeded it as well.

Also -
Crysis 3 system requirements (minimum)
CPU: 2.8 GHz dual core processor, Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD Phenom X2 or better
RAM: 2GB
Graphics: DirectX 10 graphics card with 1 GB RAM, Nvidia 400-series or AMD Radeon 5000-series.
Operating system: Windows Vista
DirectX 9c sound card
16 GB free hard drive space

Crysis 3 system requirements (recommended)
CPU: 2.4 GHz quad core processor, Intel Core i5 or better
RAM: 2GB (4 GB for 64-bit operating systems)
Graphics: DirectX 11 compatible video card with 1GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 500-series or AMD 6000-series or better.
Operating system: Windows 7, Win 7 64-bit is preferred
DirectX 9c sound card, dedicated audio card is preferred
16 GB free hard drive space

While not at the highest video settings, I'll bet that this $400 PC can run Crysis 3 at least as well as and with similar graphics to both the PS4 and X1. Both of those machines are using OUTDATED PC hardware. Oh and this computer: http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/G72Gx/ has ran all the Crysis Games with medium graphics and its a 3.5 year old laptop.

For the record, I still have the ASUS Laptop and am still using it and posting in this forum with it....only thing ever changed on it is the OS.

You guys are arguing about PC vs consoles? What are you, 14?

Who asked microsoft for a XBOX TV & Skype center, I think the presentation was comically bad.

Sony reveals a new console: Shows lots of games, thoroughly explains architecture, doesn't show the PS4 console itself to gain hype.

Microsoft reveals a new console: Shows... TV! Watching TV AND going on a ... web browser. Announces a new... halo show. Shows multiplat COD, quick Forza segment, and some CGI EA gimmick footage. OH AND SKYPE TOO. Wait where is the full specs besides using multitudes of verbs?

Microsoft says it has 15 exclusives coming, 8 new IPs. Of those new ips which are family / kinect games? Probably half tbh. Looking at probably 7 Kinect games, 4 New IPs, and 4 Revamped IPs.

What's microsoft doing to itself?

I've been playing on consoles all my life. I feel more comfortable with a controller than a mouse, and not having to put things together is a plus

The xbox controller is plug and play in Windows Vista and up. You plug it in, and you play.

But you do realize that what Dust is doing gameplay-wise.... check that, trying to do gameplay-wise Halo did on the original Xbox 1, well maybe Halo 2, cant remember which introduced the jet-fighters

Except you missed the point entirely. Now you don't need all of that stuff. Just an XBox one. Because of this, they will sell to a much wider audience than just gamers (Which BTW is going to be eaten up by the mobile market soon) so MS will likely sell a crapton more XB1s then Sony will sell PS4s, but who really cares?

What kind of non-RPG (hell even some RPGs do it too now) doesn't save for you every 20 steps?

They should.

If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it.

Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy?

You sir are stupid. If I lend a game to a friend then I cannot play it because my friend has it. So for each copy of the game sold one person can play it. The whole piracy issue revolves around people making new copies of the game that weren't paid for.

@DustyVanilla - I never said Halo was the first - I just said that Halo did all that Dust seems to be trying to do sans progression years ago.

I was responding to a post that said another poster was silly for saying that but if you look at current Dust it is very hard to say that this isnt Halo / Halo 2. Its very similar and for people trying to use that as a put down is funny.

One day Dust maybe this great integrated sophisticated entity but currently its the MP portion of most shooter styled games and its very barebones - most of us have just bought into the reputation and vision but you couldnt blame anyone from balking and bolting after a couple of hours of gameplay.

Wii is the ONLY real gaming console you guys