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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:52:00 -
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as for me. my belly will continue to grow fat |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:55:00 -
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[2:16:14 PM] Neros: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lE0lzI4NoU0 http://puu.sh/2Ycst.png [2:16:22 PM] Neros: The xbox reveal in a nutshell [2:19:03 PM] Midnight: You saw my YouTube link, right? [2:20:29 PM] Neros: METAL BAWCKSES [3:50:15 PM] Midnight: [3:48 PM] Midnight:
<<< All games can be installed to the Xbox One's 500GB hard drive, removing the need for a disc entirely after the initial load-up, Microsoft tells Wired. If a second account wants to play that game the player will be asked to pay a fee and install the game on his own console. Whether this is a mandatory installation for every game, Microsoft says, "On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play." There you go [3:50:45 PM] Neros: This kills the xbox
It isn't "always online" guys. It only "requires an internet connection". |
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Net Warriors Z
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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:58:00 -
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Requiring a connection IS the issue.
Internet can drop (for whatever reason) and you have a $400 table furnishing till it resumes |
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:10:00 -
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Bortthog Fal-Fon wrote:Requiring a connection IS the issue.
Internet can drop (for whatever reason) and you have a $400 table furnishing till it resumes Hey, don't forget getting kicked out of your active game without being able to save! |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:19:00 -
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It looks like ****, CoD Ghosts looks like trash for a supposed next Gen game, Xbox 1 sounds stupider than Wii U, always connection can suck a ****, and it honestly fails pretty hard. "Fantasy Football on my XBOX? NEXT GEN IS HERE?!" |
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Net Warriors Z
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:25:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Bortthog Fal-Fon wrote:Requiring a connection IS the issue.
Internet can drop (for whatever reason) and you have a $400 table furnishing till it resumes Hey, don't forget getting kicked out of your active game without being able to save!
What kind of non-RPG (hell even some RPGs do it too now) doesn't save for you every 20 steps? |
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Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:39:00 -
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Who asked microsoft for a XBOX TV & Skype center, I think the presentation was comically bad.
Sony reveals a new console: Shows lots of games, thoroughly explains architecture, doesn't show the PS4 console itself to gain hype.
Microsoft reveals a new console: Shows... TV! Watching TV AND going on a ... web browser. Announces a new... halo show. Shows multiplat COD, quick Forza segment, and some CGI EA gimmick footage. OH AND SKYPE TOO. Wait where is the full specs besides using multitudes of verbs?
Microsoft says it has 15 exclusives coming, 8 new IPs. Of those new ips which are family / kinect games? Probably half tbh. Looking at probably 7 Kinect games, 4 New IPs, and 4 Revamped IPs.
What's microsoft doing to itself?
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Lost-Legion Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'm not a Call of Duty fan But damn Ghosts looks like sex DUST has a very very long way to go. Doesn't mean I won't be along for the ride ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) Looks like a PS3 launch title |
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Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:47:00 -
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Looked great if you want to watch TV a lot and are in the US. They almost showed one game, and a few teasers and tech demos. It's clear that the directions Sony and MS have taken in current gen will continue: Sony is for core gamers, Xbos for casuals (lol sports games) and families, in the US.
I was open to Xbox for next gen, but that presentation and the fact that used games require extra fees clinched the deal for PS4. |
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FALLEN LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:50:00 -
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I wasn't super impressed by anything I saw.
PS4 is going to have Destiny and the updated Dust.
I can still run my network videos via Vuze. I can still get my Amazon videos and Netflix videos.
I have a few games that I will still keep on the 360 but won't run out for a One like I probably will do for a PS4.
And I did buy a PS3 just for Dust just a few weeks ago.
There is going to have to be some kind of killer One only app or game that makes me get one, and I just haven't see it yet.
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:53:00 -
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Who else is excited for the next round of overpriced mid-range PCs from Microsoft and Sony?
*crickets* |
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Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:53:00 -
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I wonder how lending games to friends is going to work, do they need to pay money to play them too? |
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Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:56:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:I wonder how lending games to friends is going to work, do they need to pay money to play them too?
They should.
If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it.
Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy? |
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Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:07:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:I wonder how lending games to friends is going to work, do they need to pay money to play them too? They should. If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it. Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy?
So if you lend a book or a BD to a friend, you're pirating. That makes sense ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:25:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:I wonder how lending games to friends is going to work, do they need to pay money to play them too? They should. If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it. Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy? So if you lend a book or a BD to a friend, you're pirating. That makes sense ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
I think it's as stupid as you do, but if you look at the arguments against piracy it becomes clear that to be objective the same argument applies to lending books and BDs to a friend.
Since digital media has no physical component, the argument from content providers (and most governments) is that what you are paying for is the right to access the media. If you lend a game to a friend, they are playing the game without paying for the right to do so. |
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:27:00 -
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1. "Xbox Won"?
2. both systems = great new lighting, amazing new textures and a bunch of new stuff that will be broken, laggy and unplayable for the first 3 years.
still no VR HMD announcement anywhere?
pc is gaining on both.
Peace B |
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Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:29:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:I wonder how lending games to friends is going to work, do they need to pay money to play them too? They should. If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it. Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy?
Lending something is not piracy, as you don't duplicate the media. If I loan it to someone, I can't play it anymore.
http://n4g.com/news/1261976/no-live-tv-kinect-functions-outside-us-at-launch-for-xbox-one
guess that was half of the features down the drain. |
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DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:39:00 -
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Do xbox have Beyond and Dust? No? Then no more question to me. |
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Baal Roo
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:41:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:I wonder how lending games to friends is going to work, do they need to pay money to play them too? They should. If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it. Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy? Lending something is not piracy, as you don't duplicate the media. If I loan it to someone, I can't play it anymore. http://n4g.com/news/1261976/no-live-tv-kinect-functions-outside-us-at-launch-for-xbox-oneguess that was half of the features down the drain.
The argument against piracy isn't about whether or not you can replay your game, rewatch your movie, or reread your book. It's about people paying for the right to consume the media. Again, it's not MY argument, but it is THE argument.
It's illegal to pirate a copy of a game, book, movie, etc because the person who will be getting the product for free is not paying for the content. THAT is the supposed problem of piracy. I don't care if you can't reread your book or replay your game, you already read it, or already played it. You consumed the media, and now someone else is consuming the media for free.
The physical medium is no longer relevant to discussion of piracy and intellectual rights, because we've seen time and time again that the digital information devoid of a physical delivery medium consistently priced AT or ABOVE the price of the same information when it is delivered to us with a physical medium attached. The only difference between a CD and a FLAC digital album is the medium the information is being held on. If, for the digital medium, the rules are that we are paying for "the right to consume", then it follows that the CD show be viewed within the same context. |
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Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:11:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:It's not a game console, its a "media center".
The same thing was said about the PS3 5 years ago. |
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Icy TIG3R
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:17:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:I wonder how lending games to friends is going to work, do they need to pay money to play them too? They should. If you want to play a video game, you should pay for the video game. There isn't any real difference between piracy and loaning a game to a friend. In each scenario, a second person plays the game without paying for it. Unless your argument is that there is nothing wrong with playing games without paying for them, I don't see the problem. Are you pro game piracy? Lending something is not piracy, as you don't duplicate the media. If I loan it to someone, I can't play it anymore. http://n4g.com/news/1261976/no-live-tv-kinect-functions-outside-us-at-launch-for-xbox-oneguess that was half of the features down the drain. The argument against piracy isn't about whether or not you can replay your game, rewatch your movie, or reread your book. It's about people paying for the right to consume the media. Again, it's not MY argument, but it is THE argument. It's illegal to pirate a copy of a game, book, movie, etc because the person who will be getting the product for free is not paying for the content. THAT is the supposed problem of piracy. I don't care if you can't reread your book or replay your game, you already read it, or already played it. You consumed the media, and now someone else is consuming the media for free. The physical medium is no longer relevant to discussion of piracy and intellectual rights, because we've seen time and time again that the digital information devoid of a physical delivery medium consistently priced AT or ABOVE the price of the same information when it is delivered to us attached to a physical medium. The only difference between a CD and a FLAC digital album is the medium the information is being held on. For a video game (for example), if you buy the newest CoD at gamestop delivered to you on a $0.10 piece of plastic, you pay $59.99, if you buy the newest CoD straight from PSN, without the plastic container, you still pay $59.99. It follows then that what we are paying for is the digital rights in each case, not the piece of plastic the game comes on. If, for the digital medium, the rules are that we are paying for "the right to consume", then it follows that a video game purchased on a plastic disc should be viewed within the same context. If you are pro-lending, the natural and obvious logical conclusion is that you are pro-piracy. I personally am both.
Baal are you trolling or just stupid?
When I buy something, I have the right to do whatever the f*** I want to do with it. End of story.
They've already implemented online passes, in which you pay for the ability to use the online service.
In that same definition that you're using, NOTHING you have belongs to you, you merely "rent" it.
People like you are sending the industry down the drain. |
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Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:22:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Who else is excited for the next round of overpriced mid-range PCs from Microsoft and Sony?
*crickets*
A $400 PC does not have the specs the PS4 has...so it is a CHEAP mid-ranged PC with a good GFX card in it.
Also a PS3 and an Xbox can both play Crysis 3...try and find a $200 to $300 PC made 5 years ago that can play Crysis 3.
Comparing Gaming power per dollar spent consoles win every time. |
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Arramakaian Eka
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:22:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:When I buy something, I have the right to do whatever the f*** I want to do with it. End of story. ... People like you [Baal] are sending the industry down the drain.
Quoted for emphasis. |
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Vermaak Doe wrote:If this is a copy of halo, arma is a cod copy. im gonna quote my idiodic friend here when he was watching me play arma 2 "This looks exactly like DayZ, wtf??????" |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:31:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Who else is excited for the next round of overpriced mid-range PCs from Microsoft and Sony?
*crickets* A $400 PC does not have the specs the PS4 has...so it is a CHEAP mid-ranged PC with a good GFX card in it. Also a PS3 and an Xbox can both play Crysis 3...try and find a $200 to $300 PC made 5 years ago that can play Crysis 3. Comparing Gaming power per dollar spent consoles win every time. my pc setup cost alot and it runs better and looks better then my ps3 crysis was made for pc |
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Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:41:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:Baal Roo wrote:
It's illegal to pirate a copy of a game, book, movie, etc because the person who will be getting the product for free is not paying for the content. THAT is the supposed problem of piracy. I don't care if you can't reread your book or replay your game, you already read it, or already played it. You consumed the media, and now someone else is consuming the media for free.
The physical medium is no longer relevant to discussion of piracy and intellectual rights, because we've seen time and time again that the digital information devoid of a physical delivery medium consistently priced AT or ABOVE the price of the same information when it is delivered to us attached to a physical medium. The only difference between a CD and a FLAC digital album is the medium the information is being held on. For a video game (for example), if you buy the newest CoD at gamestop delivered to you on a $0.10 piece of plastic, you pay $59.99, if you buy the newest CoD straight from PSN, without the plastic container, you still pay $59.99.
It follows then that what we are paying for is the digital rights in each case, not the piece of plastic the game comes on.
If, for the digital medium, the rules are that we are paying for "the right to consume", then it follows that a video game purchased on a plastic disc should be viewed within the same context. If you are pro-lending, the natural and obvious logical conclusion is that you are pro-piracy. I personally am both.
Baal are you trolling or just stupid? When I buy something, I have the right to do whatever the f*** I want to do with it. End of story. They've already implemented online passes, in which you pay for the ability to use the online service. In that same definition that you're using, NOTHING you have belongs to you, you merely "rent" it. People like you are sending the industry down the drain.
Way to completely miss my point. I see you are pro-piracy, I am too. We're on the same page here.
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Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:43:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:I used to be die-hard PS1 and PS2, then 360 after the PS3's ridiculous launch price. After the first slim PS3's came out I got one and have rarely looked back. The only reason I play Xbox is to play with my brother who lives in England while I'm working abroad, and I haven't done that in a few months.
As for the new xbox, it looks and sounds garbage, plagiarising ideas from Sony and Nintendo and pretending they're original is quite sickening.
Tl;dr - *Yawn*
I'm sorry what exactly does Xbox One have that PS4 and WiiU have, other than 8GB of RAM? PS4, stupid Eye Camera crap, nonfunctional move system, lousy living room entertainment ability.
For the person, I forget who now, that commented on the Always On feature, PS3 already uses an "Always-On" state, through standby modes. It's why when you first turn on the system, the latest PS3 update has already been downloaded and why cloud saves have already happened.
At no time during the announcement did Microsoft translate "Always On" or "Always Connected" to a requirement of any kind and thus far I have not read a single article about it, since the announcement. It would absolutely not be in Microsoft's or game developers best interest to support such a thing at this time. Microsoft and game developers would lose money on the deal. Microsoft because, fewer people would purchase the console in lieu of the PS4 and game developers because they would lose sales because they would be limited in the number of consoles they could sell for.
As for the new Xbox, I was impressed by it and it gives me features that honestly, Sony should have thought of first, since they sell TVs to begin with. I can eliminate all of the remotes in my living room and tell my TV what I want to watch. The only reason people like you guys flock to PS to begin with is because of the brand. It has nothing to do with quality of the product or the service. My only big complaint about Microsoft is Xbox Live, I hate that I have to pay to play what people on PSN can do for free. But product for product, Xbox has always been better than PS. It has always had better graphics, better sound, and better user friendliness. The proof alone is in the sales numbers, 360 continues to outsell PS3 and in fact, Sony is so embarrassed by how well it is doing the US, that it hasn't released sales numbers in several years.
I'm not slamming you for preferring PS4 over Xbox One, but OMG at least don't try to pass an opinion off as truth.
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:46:00 -
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lol... Xbox Tv |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:48:00 -
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Am I the only person on Earth who thinks these 'console wars' are just about the stupidest thing from mankind since cavemen? Both PS3 and Xbox are pretty much the exact same, except you must pay a monthly fee to access the online features of the Xbox, and if you pay the SAME fee for PS3, you get a free game each month and discounts on the online market. Sure, almost every person I knew grew up on Playstation titles, like Jak and Sly Cooper,but those days are over. Dead. Probably never coming back despite how much I want them to. Xbox has Gears of War and Halo as their exclusives, which are more action-oriented.
These two consoles are basically the same thing. Sony encourages an optional monthly fee for cheaper access to its market. Xbox encourages pretty much a mandatory monthly fee in order to play with friends online and most of its free apps, like Netflix.
Sony has many more exclusives (its a pain to name them all)
Xbox has less exclusives, those that stand out the most are Gears of War and Halo.
This has just been my opinion you may continue your squabble over which is better anyway. |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:50:00 -
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Come on guys. Put a like in my char before comment. Lets spam likes |
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