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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.20 18:59:00 -
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 Anyone else find this funny? I do
  
 Just thought I'll share this lil fact.
 
 Jenza - Betamax
 
 Hanz - Deltaforce
 
 Caz - WTF
 
 Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.
 
 Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know.
 
 One Universe, One DonutGäó
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        |  SoTa ReGnUM PoP
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.20 19:00:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Hanz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 2 Hanz?
 
 Lol nice edit.
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 1763
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.20 19:01:00 -
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 SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Caz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 2 Hanz? Lol nice edit. 
 quick ninja edit ftw
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        |  SoTa ReGnUM PoP
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.20 19:06:00 -
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 I'm getting bored of the topic of CPM and corruption.
 
 It's mostly untrue conjectures anyways.
 
 Jenza's just a damn fool who will never see a position of power around here again once her terms up. So she'd best be using every exploit her CPM knowledge gives her while she can - cause if Beta falls a part she's up **** creek.
 
 ops did I just claim jenza is abusing CPM Knowledge? Shame on me :3
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 1763
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.20 19:13:00 -
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 SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:I'm getting bored of the topic of CPM and corruption.
 It's mostly untrue conjectures anyways.
 
 Jenza's just a damn fool who will never see a position of power around here again once her terms up. So she'd best be using every exploit her CPM knowledge gives her while she can - cause if Beta falls a part she's up **** creek.
 
 ops did I just claim jenza is abusing CPM Knowledge? Shame on me :3
 
 
 People are entitled to an opinion. Plucking allegations out from thin air is fair game I guess...you know, the whole glitched "Welcome to New Eden" catch phrase.
 
 Personally, I don't really care too much. I'm just pointing out the donut also exist in CPM chambers.
 
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        |  NAV HIV
 The Generals
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 13:49:00 -
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 Re-election?
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 13:52:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Caz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 
 Whats the point? Barring WTF every other corp else sucks! Atleast Caz is a decent dude. It must be tough for WTF carrying these donuts.
 
 Mad props to you WTF! You have my respect! Keep pummeling Red Star.
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        |  Guinevere Bravo
 SVER True Blood
 Unclaimed.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 14:53:00 -
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 No UK representative makes me a sad panda.
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        |  Beta Dust Fish
 Villore Sec Ops
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 15:17:00 -
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 all the CPM was picked because they PAY for EVE
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 1441
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:11:00 -
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 Guinevere Bravo wrote:No UK representative makes me a sad panda. right here, dude.
 
 and for the rest of you, there should be a little tin foil hat under your chair, it is the recommendation that anyone in fear of conspiracies place it on your head to stop the CCP overlords to peek into your mind, steal your thoughts and brainwash you.
 
 Its too late for us CPMers as we are now totally brainwashed. Only you can save yourself.
 
 Wear the tinfoil hat!
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        |  Raizor Feddie
 On The Brink
 CRONOS.
 
 13
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:13:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Caz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 
 I'm still interested in learning about this Donut people keep talking about. HBC vs. CFC. And All PC in DUST being a battlefield doesn't look like a donut...But then, maybe theirs a donut inside a donut I don't know about.
 
 DonutCeption.
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 387
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:15:00 -
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 Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
 Kobra4CPM
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 1444
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:22:00 -
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 now to a serious post.
 
 The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.
 
 We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.
 
 So, King Kobrah, if you are serious when you say
 
 Quote:you are a dumbass.Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:25:00 -
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 I'm going to go with Plato on this one:
 
 "A best and most efficiently run form of governance is a dictatorship of philosopher kings---the most enlightened individuals among a community."
 
 
 Quote:The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances 
 "Denial is the most predictable of all human emotions."
 -Chinese Proverb, also used by 'The Architect'
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        |  Heinz Doofenshertz
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 397
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:25:00 -
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 why you no list Nova or Kain, do you hate them. are you trying to deflect the fact that they represent people to, or does it ruin your argument?
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:27:00 -
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 "Behold ! human beings living in an underground den!"
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 1816
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:29:00 -
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 Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:why you no list Nova or Kain, do you hate them. are you trying to deflect the fact that they represent people to, or does it ruin your argument? 
 if I did it'll only highlight my point more tbh.
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        |  Kitten Empress
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:30:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post.  The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.  We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.  So, King Kobrah, if you are serious when you say Quote:Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
 you are a dumbass. Woah Jenza, don't call them dumbasses!
 They can't handle someone they've been picking on giving some back! :P
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        |  Surt gods end
 Demon Ronin
 
 120
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:30:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post.  The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.  We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.  So, King Kobrah, if you are serious when you say Quote:Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
 you are a dumbass. 
 
 "NOT JUST FOR EVE PLAYERS. BUT EVERYONE."
 
 Just thought I'll add that.
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        |  xprotoman23
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1564
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:31:00 -
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 Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:why you no list Nova or Kain, do you hate them. are you trying to deflect the fact that they represent people to, or does it ruin your argument? 
 OP was clearly pointing out that the MAJORITY of the CPM is comprised of Crion.
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:33:00 -
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 I like how Jenza has zero understanding of what a public representative is. We'll see how long that "career" lasts.
 
 I remember that's what got Obama the vote....
 
 "VOTE FOR ME DUMBASSES"
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 78
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:36:00 -
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 Grezkev wrote:I like how Jenza has zero understanding of what a public representative is. We'll see how long that "career" lasts.
 I remember that's what got Obama the vote....
 
 "VOTE FOR ME DUMBASSES"
 
 The thing Obama and our esteemed CPMs from the Crynos and Ocryon Alliances have is that they have the gift of gab. they can talk the talk but cant walk the walk.
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:37:00 -
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 Banned From Forums wrote:Grezkev wrote:I like how Jenza has zero understanding of what a public representative is. We'll see how long that "career" lasts.
 I remember that's what got Obama the vote....
 
 "VOTE FOR ME DUMBASSES"
 The thing Obama and our esteemed CPMs from the Crynos and Ocryon Alliances have is that they have the gift of gab. they can talk the talk but cant walk the walk. 
 Obama can't even walk without ppl there to make sure he won't trip.
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 387
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:38:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post.  The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.  We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.  So, King Kobrah, if you are serious when you say Quote:Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
 you are a dumbass. And you use inside information to better your garbage corporation, when in reality you're so bad it doesn't matter, all while ruining other player's experience. Yeah, you're a great representative for the community. Please do us a favor and step down.
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        |  EnglishSnake
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 1097
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:39:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post. 
 The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.
 
 We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.
 .
 
 No you are not
 
 You are exploiting PC for your own benefit
 
 You are driving away new players who cannot join corps because lolz they are all spies because you exploited PC broken mechanics but yet seem to be against the majority of fixes which would plug this hole because it would stop you from abusing it
 
 Really the CPM was made just for making a voting process which i wish would hurry up so we can actually get real players in and not exploiters
 
 
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 281
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:40:00 -
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 "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."
 
 Replace "country" with "Galaxy", nuff said.
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        |  Surt gods end
 Demon Ronin
 
 120
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:41:00 -
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 I get the whole CPM being in a PR position. Some what in constant spot light. Which out of all the CPM IMO WOLF has been the most classy.
 
 But CPM are gamers too. attack their stances on anything. But leave the personal crap out.
 
 *you defending jenza cause she's girl*
 
 No. I just think she's just playing a GAME in a way that is fun for her.
 
 Tho I don't agree on some of her POV towards this spying crap. Your making my work as a merc for hire harder lass. all these paranoid corps.
 
 
 
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        |  Deluxe Edition
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 292
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:56:00 -
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 The problems with CPM being a vast majority CRONOS is it becomes difficult to approach them about PC matters. As people said they are gamers, and what is to keep them from using that information against the community. Right now Kain Spero is the ONLY CPM I would discuss any PC matters with. Kind of sad when the Imps are the most trustworthy link to CPM.
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 1449
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:57:00 -
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 EnglishSnake wrote:jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post. 
 The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.
 
 We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.
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 No you are not  You are exploiting PC for your own benefit You are driving away new players who cannot join corps because lolz they are all spies because you exploited PC broken mechanics but yet seem to be against the majority of fixes which would plug this hole because it would stop you from abusing it Really the CPM was made just for making a voting process which i wish would hurry up so we can actually get real players in and not exploiters  
 I have actually listed a number of ways to "fix" the issue without removing what you boneheadedly think is an exploit.
 
 I will admit, while i dont really play EVE anymore, when dealing with New Eden, the EVE mentality stuck with me. and its stuck with CCP too.
 
 One of the great things about this game is that you play however you want with the tools thats available to you, and if its something CCP has overlooked they will change it, or not depending what they think, but they wont ban you just because you have had a bad experience.
 
 "EVEGëáDUST"
 
 totally right! however both eve and dust are in the New Eden Universe, and CCP wants to encourage this kind of play to which it seems at this point that i am representing as some kind of devil. I am playing in a way thats fun and looking for emergent gameplay with the tools CCP has given to see what kind of interesting ways dust can go.
 
 Saying I should be removed from the position because i support less than fair options is just ******* stupid. Lets remember that mittens, CEO of Goonswarm is possibly the most controversial/hated person in New Eden. However when he was on the CSM as chairman, he did it ******* right and got **** done and done well. A fact that no one can deny. Just proof that you dont need to play fair or even be liked to do the job right. You think i'm exploiting? I dont think i am, and neither does CCP. That doesnt mean i think its perfect which is why im working with CCP to make it harder but not impossible.
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 1450
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:00:00 -
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 Deluxe Edition wrote:The problems with CPM being a vast majority CRONOS is it becomes difficult to approach them about PC matters. As people said they are gamers, and what is to keep them from using that information against the community. Right now Kain Spero is the ONLY CPM I would discuss any PC matters with. Kind of sad when the Imps are the most trustworthy link to CPM. lol, "trustworthy" is a bit much
 
 If you had an issue you could have easally come to me, however you started posting a bullshit thread about how i should be removed. however if you have any issues feel free to send them to me.
 
 Alliance politics have no place in the CPM chamber.
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