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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.20 18:59:00 -
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 Anyone else find this funny? I do
  
 Just thought I'll share this lil fact.
 
 Jenza - Betamax
 
 Hanz - Deltaforce
 
 Caz - WTF
 
 Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.
 
 Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know.
 
 One Universe, One DonutGäó
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        |  SoTa ReGnUM PoP
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.20 19:00:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Hanz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 2 Hanz?
 
 Lol nice edit.
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.20 19:01:00 -
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 SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Caz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 2 Hanz? Lol nice edit. 
 quick ninja edit ftw
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        |  SoTa ReGnUM PoP
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.20 19:06:00 -
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 I'm getting bored of the topic of CPM and corruption.
 
 It's mostly untrue conjectures anyways.
 
 Jenza's just a damn fool who will never see a position of power around here again once her terms up. So she'd best be using every exploit her CPM knowledge gives her while she can - cause if Beta falls a part she's up **** creek.
 
 ops did I just claim jenza is abusing CPM Knowledge? Shame on me :3
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 1763
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.20 19:13:00 -
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 SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:I'm getting bored of the topic of CPM and corruption.
 It's mostly untrue conjectures anyways.
 
 Jenza's just a damn fool who will never see a position of power around here again once her terms up. So she'd best be using every exploit her CPM knowledge gives her while she can - cause if Beta falls a part she's up **** creek.
 
 ops did I just claim jenza is abusing CPM Knowledge? Shame on me :3
 
 
 People are entitled to an opinion. Plucking allegations out from thin air is fair game I guess...you know, the whole glitched "Welcome to New Eden" catch phrase.
 
 Personally, I don't really care too much. I'm just pointing out the donut also exist in CPM chambers.
 
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        |  NAV HIV
 The Generals
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 13:49:00 -
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 Re-election?
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 13:52:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Caz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 
 Whats the point? Barring WTF every other corp else sucks! Atleast Caz is a decent dude. It must be tough for WTF carrying these donuts.
 
 Mad props to you WTF! You have my respect! Keep pummeling Red Star.
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        |  Guinevere Bravo
 SVER True Blood
 Unclaimed.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 14:53:00 -
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 No UK representative makes me a sad panda.
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        |  Beta Dust Fish
 Villore Sec Ops
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 15:17:00 -
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 all the CPM was picked because they PAY for EVE
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:11:00 -
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 Guinevere Bravo wrote:No UK representative makes me a sad panda. right here, dude.
 
 and for the rest of you, there should be a little tin foil hat under your chair, it is the recommendation that anyone in fear of conspiracies place it on your head to stop the CCP overlords to peek into your mind, steal your thoughts and brainwash you.
 
 Its too late for us CPMers as we are now totally brainwashed. Only you can save yourself.
 
 Wear the tinfoil hat!
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        |  Raizor Feddie
 On The Brink
 CRONOS.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:13:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Caz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 
 I'm still interested in learning about this Donut people keep talking about. HBC vs. CFC. And All PC in DUST being a battlefield doesn't look like a donut...But then, maybe theirs a donut inside a donut I don't know about.
 
 DonutCeption.
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:15:00 -
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 Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
 Kobra4CPM
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:22:00 -
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 now to a serious post.
 
 The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.
 
 We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.
 
 So, King Kobrah, if you are serious when you say
 
 Quote:you are a dumbass.Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:25:00 -
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 I'm going to go with Plato on this one:
 
 "A best and most efficiently run form of governance is a dictatorship of philosopher kings---the most enlightened individuals among a community."
 
 
 Quote:The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances 
 "Denial is the most predictable of all human emotions."
 -Chinese Proverb, also used by 'The Architect'
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        |  Heinz Doofenshertz
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:25:00 -
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 why you no list Nova or Kain, do you hate them. are you trying to deflect the fact that they represent people to, or does it ruin your argument?
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:27:00 -
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 "Behold ! human beings living in an underground den!"
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 1816
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:29:00 -
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 Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:why you no list Nova or Kain, do you hate them. are you trying to deflect the fact that they represent people to, or does it ruin your argument? 
 if I did it'll only highlight my point more tbh.
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        |  Kitten Empress
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:30:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post.  The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.  We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.  So, King Kobrah, if you are serious when you say Quote:Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
 you are a dumbass. Woah Jenza, don't call them dumbasses!
 They can't handle someone they've been picking on giving some back! :P
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        |  Surt gods end
 Demon Ronin
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:30:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post.  The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.  We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.  So, King Kobrah, if you are serious when you say Quote:Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
 you are a dumbass. 
 
 "NOT JUST FOR EVE PLAYERS. BUT EVERYONE."
 
 Just thought I'll add that.
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        |  xprotoman23
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:31:00 -
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 Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:why you no list Nova or Kain, do you hate them. are you trying to deflect the fact that they represent people to, or does it ruin your argument? 
 OP was clearly pointing out that the MAJORITY of the CPM is comprised of Crion.
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:33:00 -
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 I like how Jenza has zero understanding of what a public representative is. We'll see how long that "career" lasts.
 
 I remember that's what got Obama the vote....
 
 "VOTE FOR ME DUMBASSES"
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 78
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:36:00 -
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 Grezkev wrote:I like how Jenza has zero understanding of what a public representative is. We'll see how long that "career" lasts.
 I remember that's what got Obama the vote....
 
 "VOTE FOR ME DUMBASSES"
 
 The thing Obama and our esteemed CPMs from the Crynos and Ocryon Alliances have is that they have the gift of gab. they can talk the talk but cant walk the walk.
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 280
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:37:00 -
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 Banned From Forums wrote:Grezkev wrote:I like how Jenza has zero understanding of what a public representative is. We'll see how long that "career" lasts.
 I remember that's what got Obama the vote....
 
 "VOTE FOR ME DUMBASSES"
 The thing Obama and our esteemed CPMs from the Crynos and Ocryon Alliances have is that they have the gift of gab. they can talk the talk but cant walk the walk. 
 Obama can't even walk without ppl there to make sure he won't trip.
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 387
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:38:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post.  The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.  We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.  So, King Kobrah, if you are serious when you say Quote:Our alliance is entirely unrepresented.
 
 you are a dumbass. And you use inside information to better your garbage corporation, when in reality you're so bad it doesn't matter, all while ruining other player's experience. Yeah, you're a great representative for the community. Please do us a favor and step down.
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        |  EnglishSnake
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 1097
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:39:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post. 
 The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.
 
 We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.
 .
 
 No you are not
 
 You are exploiting PC for your own benefit
 
 You are driving away new players who cannot join corps because lolz they are all spies because you exploited PC broken mechanics but yet seem to be against the majority of fixes which would plug this hole because it would stop you from abusing it
 
 Really the CPM was made just for making a voting process which i wish would hurry up so we can actually get real players in and not exploiters
 
 
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 281
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:40:00 -
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 "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."
 
 Replace "country" with "Galaxy", nuff said.
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        |  Surt gods end
 Demon Ronin
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:41:00 -
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 I get the whole CPM being in a PR position. Some what in constant spot light. Which out of all the CPM IMO WOLF has been the most classy.
 
 But CPM are gamers too. attack their stances on anything. But leave the personal crap out.
 
 *you defending jenza cause she's girl*
 
 No. I just think she's just playing a GAME in a way that is fun for her.
 
 Tho I don't agree on some of her POV towards this spying crap. Your making my work as a merc for hire harder lass. all these paranoid corps.
 
 
 
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        |  Deluxe Edition
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:56:00 -
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 The problems with CPM being a vast majority CRONOS is it becomes difficult to approach them about PC matters. As people said they are gamers, and what is to keep them from using that information against the community. Right now Kain Spero is the ONLY CPM I would discuss any PC matters with. Kind of sad when the Imps are the most trustworthy link to CPM.
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 1449
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 16:57:00 -
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 EnglishSnake wrote:jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post. 
 The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.
 
 We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.
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 No you are not  You are exploiting PC for your own benefit You are driving away new players who cannot join corps because lolz they are all spies because you exploited PC broken mechanics but yet seem to be against the majority of fixes which would plug this hole because it would stop you from abusing it Really the CPM was made just for making a voting process which i wish would hurry up so we can actually get real players in and not exploiters  
 I have actually listed a number of ways to "fix" the issue without removing what you boneheadedly think is an exploit.
 
 I will admit, while i dont really play EVE anymore, when dealing with New Eden, the EVE mentality stuck with me. and its stuck with CCP too.
 
 One of the great things about this game is that you play however you want with the tools thats available to you, and if its something CCP has overlooked they will change it, or not depending what they think, but they wont ban you just because you have had a bad experience.
 
 "EVEGëáDUST"
 
 totally right! however both eve and dust are in the New Eden Universe, and CCP wants to encourage this kind of play to which it seems at this point that i am representing as some kind of devil. I am playing in a way thats fun and looking for emergent gameplay with the tools CCP has given to see what kind of interesting ways dust can go.
 
 Saying I should be removed from the position because i support less than fair options is just ******* stupid. Lets remember that mittens, CEO of Goonswarm is possibly the most controversial/hated person in New Eden. However when he was on the CSM as chairman, he did it ******* right and got **** done and done well. A fact that no one can deny. Just proof that you dont need to play fair or even be liked to do the job right. You think i'm exploiting? I dont think i am, and neither does CCP. That doesnt mean i think its perfect which is why im working with CCP to make it harder but not impossible.
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 CRONOS.
 
 1450
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:00:00 -
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 Deluxe Edition wrote:The problems with CPM being a vast majority CRONOS is it becomes difficult to approach them about PC matters. As people said they are gamers, and what is to keep them from using that information against the community. Right now Kain Spero is the ONLY CPM I would discuss any PC matters with. Kind of sad when the Imps are the most trustworthy link to CPM. lol, "trustworthy" is a bit much
 
 If you had an issue you could have easally come to me, however you started posting a bullshit thread about how i should be removed. however if you have any issues feel free to send them to me.
 
 Alliance politics have no place in the CPM chamber.
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        |  SoTa of PoP
 Circle of Huskarl
 Minmatar Republic
 
 355
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:02:00 -
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 I hear it's more like a CPM Dungeon then a chamber. I feel for you guys Lol
 
 Remember guys - nothing has been proven against jenza. If the community feels distrust towards her or CPM it's because of how they chose to handle things. So, please, make sure your remarks reflect as such.
 
 And btw - you did handle this TERRIBLY Lol
 
 Way to make imps shine Jenza Lol
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 79
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:03:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote: Saying I should be removed from the position because i support less than fair options is just ******* stupid. Lets remember that mittens, CEO of Goonswarm is possibly the most controversial/hated person in New Eden. However when he was on the CSM as chairman, he did it ******* right and got **** done and done well. A fact that no one can deny. Just proof that you dont need to play fair or even be liked to do the job right. You think i'm exploiting? I dont think i am, and neither does CCP. That doesnt mean i think its perfect which is why im working with CCP to make it harder but not impossible.  jenza aranda wrote:CPMs are supposed to have composure. No matter how much the forums get at you you are supposed to get a grip of yourself and give composed replies. The above 2 quotes very clearly that you lack composure. Not a very good signyou are a dumbass. | 
      
      
        |  EnglishSnake
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 1097
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:06:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:jenza aranda wrote:now to a serious post. 
 The people in CPM are not "representing" their corp or alliance, they are representing the community. If you think the CPM is there to get some sort of selfish advantage, you are a dumbass. If you think we have that power, you are a dumbass.
 
 We are working to make the game better for everyone, not just a few people in certain corps or alliances. Corp/allaiance politics have no place inside the CPM council chamber.
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 No you are not  You are exploiting PC for your own benefit You are driving away new players who cannot join corps because lolz they are all spies because you exploited PC broken mechanics but yet seem to be against the majority of fixes which would plug this hole because it would stop you from abusing it Really the CPM was made just for making a voting process which i wish would hurry up so we can actually get real players in and not exploiters  nonsense  
 Its a broken mechanic and to answer otherwise just shows your a tool
 
 Infact DUST has no tools to prevent it really even for the CEO of his corp while in 'new eden' EVE side has plenty of tools to prevent this
 
 All you want is a stuipdly easy way to try and swing matches your way why on the same hand you say 'new eden' 'htfu' and more BS catchphrases while new players cannot even get into a corp because lol spies and its hurts the playerbase
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 282
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:07:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:Saying I should be removed from the position because i support less than fair options is just ******* stupid.  
 You're a public representative. The public has every right to say whatever they think about you, and you should have the balls (lol...irony) to accept it and do what the community wants. Instead however, you're basically just utilizing your role for your own benefit.
 
 I recommend you take a community college course on what a government is.
 
 If you deny your role as public representative, then that will make it much easier for the rest of us....and probably for CCP.
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        |  Paran Tadec
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1053
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:08:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:Guinevere Bravo wrote:No UK representative makes me a sad panda. right here, dude. and for the rest of you, there should be a little tin foil hat under your chair, it is the recommendation that anyone in fear of conspiracies place it on your head to stop the CCP overlords to peek into your mind, steal your thoughts and brainwash you. Its too late for us CPMers as we are now totally brainwashed. Only you can save yourself. Wear the tinfoil hat! 
 tinfoil pants. /thread
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 389
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:09:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:The problems with CPM being a vast majority CRONOS is it becomes difficult to approach them about PC matters. As people said they are gamers, and what is to keep them from using that information against the community. Right now Kain Spero is the ONLY CPM I would discuss any PC matters with. Kind of sad when the Imps are the most trustworthy link to CPM. lol, "trustworthy" is a bit much If you had an issue you could have easally come to me, however you started posting a bullshit thread about how i should be removed. however if you have any issues feel free to send them to me.  Alliance politics have no place in the CPM chamber. Can we remove her for lack of hygiene and the inability to spell simple words like "easily"?
 CPM members should smell good and know how to spell in my book
 
 Especially the first part...
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 533
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:11:00 -
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 Jenza settle down, you are supposed to be above name calling and are not maintaining the composure I would expect from a CPM. Trolls will be trolls or even if their points are valid, you should not stoop to calling people dumbass.
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 80
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:16:00 -
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 Jin Robot wrote:Jenza settle down, you are supposed to be above name calling and are not maintaining the composure I would expect from a CPM. Trolls will be trolls or even if their points are valid, you should not stoop to calling people dumbass. 
 Too late for that and now she has exposed her weakness. This meta game stuff is now gonna get seriously real.
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 282
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:16:00 -
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 Jin Robot wrote:Jenza settle down, you are supposed to be above name calling and are not maintaining the composure I would expect from a CPM. Trolls will be trolls or even if their points are valid, you should not stoop to calling people dumbass. 
 That should clue you in, pal, as to who the real troll is. Genius.
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 389
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:19:00 -
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 Banned From Forums wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Jenza settle down, you are supposed to be above name calling and are not maintaining the composure I would expect from a CPM. Trolls will be trolls or even if their points are valid, you should not stoop to calling people dumbass. Too late for that and now she has exposed her weakness. This meta game stuff is now gonna get seriously real. Exposing her weaknesses to seasoned forum PVP vets is going to be her downfall. Look how easily she got rattled, it only took me one post for her to start calling me names LOL
 
 Replacement cpm 4 pantza pls
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 81
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:21:00 -
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 King Kobrah wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Jenza settle down, you are supposed to be above name calling and are not maintaining the composure I would expect from a CPM. Trolls will be trolls or even if their points are valid, you should not stoop to calling people dumbass. Too late for that and now she has exposed her weakness. This meta game stuff is now gonna get seriously real. Exposing her weaknesses to seasoned forum PVP vets is going to be her downfall. Look how easily she got rattled, it only took me one post for her to start calling me names LOL  Replacement cpm 4 pantza pls  
 I know! That was just too easy! Need to talk to my spies in Betalax about this. Thanks King! You da man!
 
 I wish you were with us.
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        |  EnIgMa99
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:21:00 -
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 Jenza went crazy quickgloves style on betamax which in turn created the imperfects. I wouldn't be surprised by this guys.
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        |  SoTa of PoP
 Circle of Huskarl
 Minmatar Republic
 
 355
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:22:00 -
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 Damnit - Jenza - how hard is it to play PR and settle this crap down? You're stirring the ******* pot like you think your the big boss.
 
 This **** is getting annoying - ridiculous - and is going to burden CPM down the line. Wasn't Nova here to stomp on CPM who either don't do there role or **** it up?
 
 Stop trying to give CPM a bad rep before we even get to ******* vote for one. The next election is going to come a long and the only people who will get voted in will be community brown nosers because people don't want a fuckin' repeat of jenza.
 
 If you're doing something as CPM shed some light on it as well so we aren't just shitting in your already impressive pants - I like both sides of a coin to be known otherwise how do we know if we've won the coin toss? -.-
 
 Really - even the forum warriors around here with there absurd level of troll could handle this better.
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 533
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:22:00 -
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 Well if this is how CPMs react, I dont see the need for them. My faith in Jenza has dropped. If you dont have skills to deflect or ignore harsh criticism, how are you capable of being a CPM? Her reaction makes me question if her obvious anger will make her bias to the "dumbass" and his corp. It makes me question it.
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 282
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:22:00 -
          [45] - Quote 
 "And as such, only those suited with the weapons of wisdom and knowledge...should have the privilege of rule."
 
 - Plato's Republic
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 81
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:22:00 -
          [46] - Quote 
 
 EnIgMa99 wrote:Jenza went crazy quickgloves style on betamax which in turn created the imperfects. I wouldn't be surprised by this guys. 
 LOL! IKR! Wasn't that a major burn LMFAO!
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        |  Sir Meode
 Seraphim Initiative.
 CRONOS.
 
 558
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:24:00 -
          [47] - Quote 
 
 Grezkev wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Saying I should be removed from the position because i support less than fair options is just ******* stupid.  You're a public representative. The public has every right to say whatever they think about you, and you should have the balls (lol...irony) to accept it and do what the community wants. Instead however, you're basically just utilizing your role for your own benefit. I recommend you take a community college course on what a government is. If you deny your role as public representative, then that will make it much easier for the rest of us....and probably for CCP. 
 LOL at your statement. The People vote for their government then proceed to cry and whine about the choices said government makes.
 
 The only diffence here is to start with we were given a CPM by CCP, they choose people who have, through the beta process, helped the community the most and brought possible exploits and broken mechanics to there attention.
 
 
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 389
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:25:00 -
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 Banned From Forums wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Jenza settle down, you are supposed to be above name calling and are not maintaining the composure I would expect from a CPM. Trolls will be trolls or even if their points are valid, you should not stoop to calling people dumbass. Too late for that and now she has exposed her weakness. This meta game stuff is now gonna get seriously real. Exposing her weaknesses to seasoned forum PVP vets is going to be her downfall. Look how easily she got rattled, it only took me one post for her to start calling me names LOL  Replacement cpm 4 pantza pls  I know! That was just too easy! Need to talk to my spies in Betalax about this. Thanks King! You da man! I wish you were with us. Not sure who you're affiliated with, but I wish you luck in your endeavors against garbagemax, you have my full backing
 
 SyNergy will always be my home though
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 533
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:26:00 -
          [49] - Quote 
 
 Sir Meode wrote:Grezkev wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Saying I should be removed from the position because i support less than fair options is just ******* stupid.  You're a public representative. The public has every right to say whatever they think about you, and you should have the balls (lol...irony) to accept it and do what the community wants. Instead however, you're basically just utilizing your role for your own benefit. I recommend you take a community college course on what a government is. If you deny your role as public representative, then that will make it much easier for the rest of us....and probably for CCP. LOL at your statement. The People vote for their government then proceed to cry and whine about the choices said government makes.  The only diffence here is to start with we were given a CPM by CCP, they choose people who have, through the beta process, helped the community the most and brought possible exploits and broken mechanics to there attention. Dont forget the help that is attacking people on forums and calling them names. Much help to the community on that.
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 81
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:28:00 -
          [50] - Quote 
 
 King Kobrah wrote:Not sure who you're affiliated with, but I wish you luck in your endeavors against garbagemax, you have my full backing  SyNergy will always be my home though   
 
 I am with New Eden Spais. We specialize in Meta Gaming. Not the BS crap BSMax pulled out by "infiltration" DU and PRO and other NPC corps.
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        |  Grezkev
 The Red Guards
 EoN.
 
 282
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:32:00 -
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 Sir Meode wrote:The only diffence here is to start with we were given a CPM by CCP, they choose people who have, through the beta process, helped the community the most and brought possible exploits and broken mechanics to there attention.
 
 
 
 I believe you just suggested that there is little difference between a representative republic and a dictatorship. LoL
 
 Maybe it's not just the CPM that needs some education.
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 82
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:35:00 -
          [52] - Quote 
 You have heard of "You Mad Bro". With our grumpy CPM its gonna be "You Mad Sis?"!
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        |  EnIgMa99
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 343
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:41:00 -
          [53] - Quote 
 
 Banned From Forums wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Jenza went crazy quickgloves style on betamax which in turn created the imperfects. I wouldn't be surprised by this guys. LOL! IKR! Wasn't that a major burn LMFAO! 
 trolling is an art
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        |  Deluxe Edition
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 294
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:41:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:The problems with CPM being a vast majority CRONOS is it becomes difficult to approach them about PC matters. As people said they are gamers, and what is to keep them from using that information against the community. Right now Kain Spero is the ONLY CPM I would discuss any PC matters with. Kind of sad when the Imps are the most trustworthy link to CPM. lol, "trustworthy" is a bit much If you had an issue you could have easally come to me, however you started posting a bullshit thread about how i should be removed. however if you have any issues feel free to send them to me.  Alliance politics have no place in the CPM chamber. 
 
 However what happens when their is a conflict of interest? You and CRONOS have shown no problems with abusing weak game mechanics that even you believe should be fixed. What happens when someone from an enemy alliance discusses other broken mechanics in the game? How can we now expect you to not use that information as a part of your war strategy?
 
 As for my call to remove you and the other cronos members from the CPM, did I expect it to happen? Nope. Did the title have effect of drawing the reader in and highlighting the abused game mechanic? I'd say it did.
 
 This was no name calling or any of that BS from me. I simply made my case.
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 82
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:42:00 -
          [55] - Quote 
 
 EnIgMa99 wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Jenza went crazy quickgloves style on betamax which in turn created the imperfects. I wouldn't be surprised by this guys. LOL! IKR! Wasn't that a major burn LMFAO! trolling is an art 
 Its a science!
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        |  Sir Meode
 Seraphim Initiative.
 CRONOS.
 
 558
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:45:00 -
          [56] - Quote 
 
 Grezkev wrote:Sir Meode wrote:The only diffence here is to start with we were given a CPM by CCP, they choose people who have, through the beta process, helped the community the most and brought possible exploits and broken mechanics to there attention.
 
 
 I believe you just suggested that there is little difference between a representative republic and a dictatorship. LoL Maybe it's not just the CPM that needs some education. 
 no there isn't much difference really. One you think your voice counts but it doesn't, the other you know your voice doesn't count.
 
 you also make it sound like the CPM has any real power.
 
 All they are there to do is inform CCP (without the whining and BS) and help set up for the next CPM. CCP can see if they are doing what they are supposed to be, they are not stupid. CCP has the choice whether to listen to them or do what the hell they want, which they have shown already in this build.
 
 
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        |  Surt gods end
 Demon Ronin
 
 120
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:47:00 -
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 SoTa of PoP wrote:Damnit - Jenza - how hard is it to play PR and settle this crap down? You're stirring the ******* pot like you think your the big boss. 
 This **** is getting annoying - ridiculous - and is going to burden CPM down the line. Wasn't Nova here to stomp on CPM who either don't do there role or **** it up?
 
 Stop trying to give CPM a bad rep before we even get to ******* vote for one. The next election is going to come a long and the only people who will get voted in will be community brown nosers because people don't want a fuckin' repeat of jenza.
 
 If you're doing something as CPM shed some light on it as well so we aren't just shitting in your already impressive pants - I like both sides of a coin to be known otherwise how do we know if we've won the coin toss? -.-
 
 Really - even the forum warriors around here with there absurd level of troll could handle this better.
 
 
 I agree with sorta of pop here. say no more. You've said enough. those that have something to bring to your table know how to reach you.
 
 Everyone doesn't have to agree with you, or some may want you out. But that came with the job lass.
 
 Take the hit's with a raise chin. Wolf does it just fine, and he's been called worse. lol
 
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        |  SoTa of PoP
 Circle of Huskarl
 Minmatar Republic
 
 355
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:47:00 -
          [58] - Quote 
 This thread sux and so does everyone in it .
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        |  Scarlette Letter
 RISE OF THE EMPIRE
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:49:00 -
          [59] - Quote 
 Should get rid of Jenza outright. She's a lying, cheating piece of ****.
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 82
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:55:00 -
          [60] - Quote 
 
 Scarlette Letter wrote:Should get rid of Jenza outright. She's a lying, cheating piece of ****. 
 Uh oh! BSmax and Crynos is not gonna like it. They are gonna infiltrate you in pub matches and TK you!
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 533
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:57:00 -
          [61] - Quote 
 
 Banned From Forums wrote:Scarlette Letter wrote:Should get rid of Jenza outright. She's a lying, cheating piece of ****. Uh oh! BSmax and Crynos is not gonna like it. They are gonna infiltrate you in pub matches and TK you! Prolly gonna get called names on the forum also. Personal attack rule does not apply to CPM.
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        |  Ninjanomyx
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 68
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 17:59:00 -
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 Banned From Forums wrote:You have heard of "You Mad Bro". With our grumpy CPM its gonna be "You Mad Sis?"! 
 Nah, it would still be "You Mad Bro?". lolJenza has shown her "Stability" on many occasions (Rage Quitting BETAMAX, Rage Quitting DUST, Rage vs IMPS who offer support, Rage against the Machine) so Its behaviors are not far off of the Norm. It is still a Bipolar mass of Molasses that bubbles up & boils over under pressure like Vigo's Ooze from Ghostbusters 2. I smoked Jenza's Pants & got Insta-High. In Jenza's defense It does have the hottest Adam's Apple in New Eden :P
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 390
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:04:00 -
          [63] - Quote 
 
 EnIgMa99 wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Jenza went crazy quickgloves style on betamax which in turn created the imperfects. I wouldn't be surprised by this guys. LOL! IKR! Wasn't that a major burn LMFAO! trolling is an art Trolling is a art*
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 533
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:06:00 -
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 King Kobrah wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Jenza went crazy quickgloves style on betamax which in turn created the imperfects. I wouldn't be surprised by this guys. LOL! IKR! Wasn't that a major burn LMFAO! trolling is an art Trolling is a art* Haha, whut? Is this trolling?
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 82
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:10:00 -
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 Ninjanomyx wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:You have heard of "You Mad Bro". With our grumpy CPM its gonna be "You Mad Sis?"!  Nah, it would still be "You Mad Bro?". lolJenza has shown her "Stability" on many occasions (Rage Quitting BETAMAX, Rage Quitting DUST, Rage vs IMPS who offer support, Rage against the Machine) so Its behaviors are not far off of the Norm. It is still a Bipolar mass of Molasses that bubbles up & boils over under pressure like Vigo's Ooze from Ghostbusters 2. I smoked Jenza's Pants & got Insta-High. In Jenza's defense It does have the hottest Adam's Apple in New Eden :P 
 LOL. I know about the BSMAX stuff. The rest is news to me. Nice choice for CPM IMHO.
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        |  Gunner Nightingale
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 575
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:13:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Anyone else find this funny? I do   Just thought I'll share this lil fact.  Jenza - Betamax Hanz - Deltaforce  Caz - WTF  Iron Wolf - ? : One can speculate, but he was a member of Betamax for a looong time. You can come to your own conclusions.  Nothing against anyone here. I've never called for a removal of anyone. Just thought I'll point this out for people who might not know. One Universe, One DonutGäó 
 
 You forgot our "Dear Leader" Who is John Galt, the Wonderful Wizard of Oz--- KANE SPERO, Ex-Betamax and the hardest working man i know, seriously people would kill to have a guy like this in Fortune 500's.
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        |  Sloth9230
 Reaper Galactic
 ROFL BROS
 
 1449
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:20:00 -
          [67] - Quote 
 
 King Kobrah wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Jenza went crazy quickgloves style on betamax which in turn created the imperfects. I wouldn't be surprised by this guys. LOL! IKR! Wasn't that a major burn LMFAO! trolling is an art Trolling is a art* Art, begins with a vowel, therefore an is correct... even if it sounds stupid. I think.
 
 Like, "he's an European"
 
 Okay... yeah, that's just not right. Anyone want to step in?
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 534
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:24:00 -
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 Just say it fast. "Anart" I should know I use poor English everyday.
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        |  Sloth9230
 Reaper Galactic
 ROFL BROS
 
 1449
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:30:00 -
          [69] - Quote 
 Wait, wait, it's based of sound, not letter.
  
 So "an European" is wrong cause it starts with a "y" sound
 
 but "an art" starts with an "a" sound so it's right.
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        |  King Kobrah
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 390
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:38:00 -
          [70] - Quote 
 
 Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:EnIgMa99 wrote:Jenza went crazy quickgloves style on betamax which in turn created the imperfects. I wouldn't be surprised by this guys. LOL! IKR! Wasn't that a major burn LMFAO! trolling is an art Trolling is a art* Art, begins with a vowel, therefore an is correct... even if it sounds stupid. I think. Like, "he's an European" Okay... yeah, that's just not right. Anyone want to step in? Honestly can't believe you fell for that
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 534
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:41:00 -
          [71] - Quote 
 I tried to point it out.
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        |  Sloth9230
 Reaper Galactic
 ROFL BROS
 
 1449
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:50:00 -
          [72] - Quote 
 
 King Kobrah wrote:Honestly can't believe you fell for that
 Shaddup
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 1817
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:52:00 -
          [73] - Quote 
 this thread still going?
  
 
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        |  Rupture Reaperson
 Deadly Blue Dots
 RISE of LEGION
 
 150
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 18:53:00 -
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 Ninjanomyx wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:You have heard of "You Mad Bro". With our grumpy CPM its gonna be "You Mad Sis?"!  Nah, it would still be "You Mad Bro?". lolJenza has shown her "Stability" on many occasions (Rage Quitting BETAMAX, Rage Quitting DUST, Rage vs IMPS who offer support, Rage against the Machine) so Its behaviors are not far off of the Norm. It is still a Bipolar mass of Molasses that bubbles up & boils over under pressure like Vigo's Ooze from Ghostbusters 2. I smoked Jenza's Pants & got Insta-High. In Jenza's defense It does have the hottest Adam's Apple in New Eden :P 
 What you did there.. I see it.
 
 Also MFW I read it
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        |  Banned From Forums
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 82
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 19:00:00 -
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 Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:this thread still going?   
 Yes! You missed a Jenza breakdown.
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        |  DJINN Jecture
 Purgatorium of the Damned
 League of Infamy
 
 11
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.05.21 19:09:00 -
          [76] - Quote 
 I remember seeing a post about the possible use of the exploit way back when corp battles were first introduced. Thanks to jenza it has been brought back to the discussion table. If you are twisted up about this then think about how mad I was when it happened to my corp. I have had some time to cool down and think about it and still don't like the advantage that Cronos has gained in PC because of this exploit as it was a "known" issue and should have been fixed long before now.
 
 Jenza, from now on, please stick to suggesting changes because you see an issue rather than exploiting them.
 
 Thank-you.
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