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Ludwig Van AssWhoopin
lMPurity
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:43:00 -
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Grammar is somewhat important. Commas do save lives for instance:" Let's eat grandpa." "Let's eat, Grandpa." |
Utsuru Kaiju
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
28
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:48:00 -
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I agree 100%. It's scary that in America we're primarily only taught and expected to speak one language, yet somehow everyone does a damn good job at botching the operation.
Your and you're Their, they're and there It's and its To, two and too
These along with many others drive me insane. It isn't hard to write a halfway proper sentence, no one's expecting you to be perfect, but at the very least try to achieve a writing level higher than a fifth grader. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
311
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:49:00 -
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Don be playin fas n lose with grammer or you will loose. |
Ludwig Van AssWhoopin
lMPurity
38
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:51:00 -
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Utsuru Kaiju wrote:I agree 100%. It's scary that in America we're primarily only taught and expected to speak one language, yet somehow everyone does a damn good job at botching the operation.
Your and you're Their, they're and there It's and its To, two and too
These along with many others drive me insane. It isn't hard to write a halfway proper sentence, no one's expecting you to be perfect, but at the very least try to achieve a writing level higher than a fifth grader.
Lulzzy. Grammar naz i reporting for duty. |
Melted Kitt3n
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:51:00 -
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In Canada we learn French as well. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
384
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:54:00 -
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Oh look, social elitist. I'm better then you because I can use a comma.
Communication is about delivering a message. You know what is being said, don't be a jerk and make fun of someone because of how it was delivered. |
Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
10
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Posted - 2013.05.20 19:13:00 -
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Utsuru Kaiju wrote:I agree 100%. It's scary that in America we're primarily only taught and expected to speak one language, yet somehow everyone does a damn good job at botching the operation.
Your and you're Their, they're and there It's and its To, two and too
These along with many others drive me insane. It isn't hard to write a halfway proper sentence, no one's expecting you to be perfect, but at the very least try to achieve a writing level higher than a fifth grader.
Add "could of" and "would of" to that list. It baffles me how people think that's the correct spelling for "could've" and "would've". "I could care less" sort of rubs me the wrong way too...
I don't complain about people's grammar, seeing as I make mistakes too, but it tends to be quite hard to read some posts if the grammar and punctuation is poor. |
Fiasco Llana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
273
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Posted - 2013.05.20 19:25:00 -
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im a americon nd i aprove dis msg. |
nippy the fish
Goonfeet
1
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:45:00 -
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Ludwig Van AssWhoopin wrote:Grammar is somewhat important. Commas do save lives for instance:" Let's eat grandpa." "Let's eat, Grandpa."
There's a difference between grammar and proper punctuation, you know... |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
276
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:47:00 -
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Bacon.
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:49:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:Utsuru Kaiju wrote:I agree 100%. It's scary that in America we're primarily only taught and expected to speak one language, yet somehow everyone does a damn good job at botching the operation.
Your and you're Their, they're and there It's and its To, two and too
These along with many others drive me insane. It isn't hard to write a halfway proper sentence, no one's expecting you to be perfect, but at the very least try to achieve a writing level higher than a fifth grader. Add "could of" and "would of" to that list. It baffles me how people think that's the correct spelling for "could've" and "would've". "I could care less" sort of rubs me the wrong way too... I don't complain about people's grammar, seeing as I make mistakes too, but it tends to be quite hard to read some posts if the grammar and punctuation is poor.
LOL it is supposed to be "could've" and "would've"
"could've" = could have "would've" = would have |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
259
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:52:00 -
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"Ignorance" kills more people than Grammar..... Fact. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:54:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, social elitist. I'm better then you because I can use a comma.
Communication is about delivering a message. You know what is being said, don't be a jerk and make fun of someone because of how it was delivered.
You're right, the problem is, messages are often misinterpreted due to improper grammar and punctuation. A communication delivered with proper grammar and punctuation is more easily understood by the audience. Indeed, this is the reason grammar and punctuation exist. |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona Gentlemen's Agreement
417
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:54:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, social elitist. I'm better then you because I can use a comma.
*than
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nippy the fish
Goonfeet
1
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:55:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:"Ignorance" kills more people than Grammar..... Fact.
dunno mah grammar uz purty wickid with a shotty |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
411
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:59:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, social elitist. I'm better then you because I can use a comma.
Communication is about delivering a message. You know what is being said, don't be a jerk and make fun of someone because of how it was delivered. You're right, the problem is, messages are often misinterpreted due to improper grammar and punctuation. A communication delivered with proper grammar and punctuation is more easily understood by the audience. Indeed, this is the reason grammar and punctuation exist.
C if u kan undestand this mesage. I tink u are full o crap and eden if I skew up this sentenance and dont use comas or spall correctly you no whut I are saying. |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
19
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:02:00 -
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Dis fred is fool ov fale :P |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
411
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:10:00 -
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PonyClause Rex wrote:Dis fred is fool ov fale :P
Actually this one breaks the mind logic. It has been mostly proven that as long as the first letter and the last letter are correct, that our brains can actually translate mispelled words. When I read your message I first thought it meant "This Thread is true or false" Then I realized that had no context and looked again using my knowledge of forum memes and realized it meant full of fail.
Your message is an actual example of why there are misunderstandings in communication. |
Fro Diesel
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:11:00 -
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nippy the fish wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:"Ignorance" kills more people than Grammar..... Fact. dunno mah grammar uz purty wickid with a shotty
^ I loled. Seriously though poor grammar and puntuation make some thing unbearable to read. I know I make more than my fair share of mistakes too. I often skip entire posts on these forums after the first few words due to them being very hard to read. |
Israckcatarac
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:12:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, social elitist. I'm better then you because I can use a comma.
Communication is about delivering a message. You know what is being said, don't be a jerk and make fun of someone because of how it was delivered. You're right, the problem is, messages are often misinterpreted due to improper grammar and punctuation. A communication delivered with proper grammar and punctuation is more easily understood by the audience. Indeed, this is the reason grammar and punctuation exist. That is what the middle finger is used for, it presents a perfect punctuation with out a misinterpretation. |
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
260
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:17:00 -
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Fro Diesel wrote:nippy the fish wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:"Ignorance" kills more people than Grammar..... Fact. dunno mah grammar uz purty wickid with a shotty ^ I loled. Seriously though poor grammar and puntuation make some thing unbearable to read. I know I make more than my fair share of mistakes too. I often skip entire posts on these forums after the first few words due to them being very hard to read.
"Ignorance" kills more people than Grammar..... Fact. ... seriously
If you read; " Let's eat grandpa.", and you go ahead and "EAT" you grandpa... you are a VERY ignorant person. |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
19
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:19:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:PonyClause Rex wrote:Dis fred is fool ov fale :P Actually this one breaks the mind logic. It has been mostly proven that as long as the first letter and the last letter are correct, that our brains can actually translate mispelled words. When I read your message I first thought it meant "This Thread is true or false" Then I realized that had no context and looked again using my knowledge of forum memes and realized it meant full of fail. Your message is an actual example of why there are misunderstandings in communication.
Agreed but i deliberately used those particular letters that did not belong in the approved spelling and should have quickly dismissed the idea of recognizing the first and last letter in order for the brain to reorganised the letters to form a recognised word and its meaning, leaving only the possibility that i was simply trolling in a troll thread ,
but lets be honest you eventually decoded the message which meant it only made it more challenging for your brain....
....so congrats to you sir and a 100 internet points on the house 07
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:27:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, social elitist. I'm better then you because I can use a comma.
Communication is about delivering a message. You know what is being said, don't be a jerk and make fun of someone because of how it was delivered. You're right, the problem is, messages are often misinterpreted due to improper grammar and punctuation. A communication delivered with proper grammar and punctuation is more easily understood by the audience. Indeed, this is the reason grammar and punctuation exist. C if u kan undestand this mesage. I tink u are full o crap and eden if I skew up this sentenance and dont use comas or spall correctly you no whut I are saying.
I actually had to go back and read this three times to decipher what you were saying. I possess a fairly high reading comprehension level (post graduate). I pity someone who has a low reading comprehension level trying to understand some posts on these forums; I imagine they simply give up. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
411
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:30:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:I actually had to go back and read this three times to decipher what you were saying. I possess a fairly high reading comprehension level (post graduate). I pity someone who has a low reading comprehension level trying to understand some posts on these forums; I imagine they simply give up.
I would think most people who have a low reading comprehension wouldn't be on the forums, they are probably watching "All My Children" or playing Call of Duty. |
nippy the fish
Goonfeet
1
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:34:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote: C if u kan undestand this mesage. I tink u are full o crap and eden if I skew up this sentenance and dont use comas or spall correctly you no whut I are saying.
It's not about understanding the message, it's about the impression one is left with when reading something that resembles a child's text message. I've never understood people that white knight for lazy posters. It's not difficult to write properly. I'm speaking for myself here, but I find it easier to read posts rather than decipher them. |
Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:38:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Utsuru Kaiju wrote:I agree 100%. It's scary that in America we're primarily only taught and expected to speak one language, yet somehow everyone does a damn good job at botching the operation.
Your and you're Their, they're and there It's and its To, two and too
These along with many others drive me insane. It isn't hard to write a halfway proper sentence, no one's expecting you to be perfect, but at the very least try to achieve a writing level higher than a fifth grader. Add "could of" and "would of" to that list. It baffles me how people think that's the correct spelling for "could've" and "would've". "I could care less" sort of rubs me the wrong way too... I don't complain about people's grammar, seeing as I make mistakes too, but it tends to be quite hard to read some posts if the grammar and punctuation is poor. LOL it is supposed to be "could've" and "would've" "could've" = could have "would've" = would have
LOL ...what?
That's what I said. I asked him to add "could of and would of" to his commonly misspelled words. Not the other way around.
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
260
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:38:00 -
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nippy the fish wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote: C if u kan undestand this mesage. I tink u are full o crap and eden if I skew up this sentenance and dont use comas or spall correctly you no whut I are saying.
It's not about understanding the message, it's about the impression one is left with when reading something that resembles a child's text message. I've never understood people that white knight for lazy posters. It's not difficult to write properly. I'm speaking for myself here, but I find it easier to read posts rather than decipher them.
There are roughly 6,500 spoken languages in the world today. However, about 2,000 of those languages have fewer than 1,000 speakers.
The most popular language in the world is Mandarin Chinese. There are 1,213,000,000 people in the world that speak that language. |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
296
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:40:00 -
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Ludwig Van AssWhoopin wrote:Grammar is somewhat important. Commas do save lives for instance:" Let's eat grandpa." "Let's eat, Grandpa."
God Bless your soul. |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
541
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:41:00 -
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Don't you mean "grammer"? |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
412
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:42:00 -
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nippy the fish wrote: I've never understood people that white knight for lazy posters..
For me its mostly the annoyance of stopping a discussion because someone was a jerk.
If someone is talking and says, "I wish I are a fish, so I could swim around all day" and then someone else says "You wish you were a fish." or some other conversation stopper. Usually I want to punch that person in the face. First for disrepecting the original speaker and secondly, for being a jerk and stopping the conversation. |
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Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
66
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:48:00 -
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As you get older you learn to expect less from people. I will correct people that I actually know, and if it is apparent that they're just dumb, I'll quit talking to them. People I'm not friendly with, I assume to be idiot jerkwads, and 1 law away from worm food. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
583
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:51:00 -
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I think a much better example, that OP should have used, is the difference between "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse" and "I helped my uncle jack off a horse". |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
728
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:52:00 -
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So am I supposed to not help Uncle Jack off the horse? |
Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:54:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:Don't you mean "grammer"?
Please tell me you're joking...
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Panther Alpha
WarRavens
260
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:00:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:As you get older you learn to expect less from people. I will correct people that I actually know, and if it is apparent that they're just dumb, I'll quit talking to them. People I'm not friendly with, I assume to be idiot jerkwads, and 1 law away from worm food.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
Benjamin Franklin |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
93
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:17:00 -
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I've been yelled at for bringing this topic up, with examples, while assisting a report writing class... Apparently I was insensitive to english as a second language people and, I s**t you not: "the educationally challenged".
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Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
542
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:18:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:Arramakaian Eka wrote:Don't you mean "grammer"? Please tell me you're joking...
How can you be so sure? Ever? |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
413
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:21:00 -
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Laheon wrote:I think a much better example, that OP should have used, is the difference between "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse" and "I helped my uncle jack off a horse".
I guess when in doubt, do both. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
74
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:27:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:That's what I said. I asked him to add "could of and would of" to his commonly misspelled words. Not the other way around.
I know, I was agreeing with you |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
261
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:28:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Rynoceros wrote:As you get older you learn to expect less from people. I will correct people that I actually know, and if it is apparent that they're just dumb, I'll quit talking to them. People I'm not friendly with, I assume to be idiot jerkwads, and 1 law away from worm food. "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." Benjamin Franklin
Don't know what to say ??? Why ? no sure if agreeing with you or not ?
That quota could be interpreted in two different ways ;
A- I agree with what you saying, and is never a excuse for stupidity.
B- In this thread context, I think you been stupid, and you should stop.
You see... the same sentence, two possible meanings...How you interpreted what i saying, is linked to Knowledge... not Grammar. |
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nippy the fish
Goonfeet
1
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:41:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:nippy the fish wrote: I've never understood people that white knight for lazy posters.. For me its mostly the annoyance of stopping a discussion because someone was a jerk. If someone is talking and says, "I wish I are a fish, so I could swim around all day" and then someone else says "You wish you were a fish." or some other conversation stopper. Usually I want to punch that person in the face. First for disrepecting the original speaker and secondly, for being a jerk and stopping the conversation.
Ah, so by that rationale, it is better to continue to stop the conversation by continuing with the derail. In the white knight's mind, it is better to perpetuate the degradation of a language as long as flow of a conversation goes unhindered. In my opinion, it is the lazy typist that produces the hindrance by creating an unnecessary irritation for readers that should happen upon their incoherent babble. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
294
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:44:00 -
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Thank the American teachers' unions. |
Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
11
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:51:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Arramakaian Eka wrote:Don't you mean "grammer"? Please tell me you're joking... How can you be so sure? Ever?
Not following... Sure about what? That you're joking? I'm not, that's why I asked. That the correct spelling of grammar is not grammer? That really should be common knowledge but Wikipedia to the rescue. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
13
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Posted - 2013.05.21 18:27:00 -
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Utsuru Kaiju wrote:I agree 100%. It's scary that in America we're primarily only taught and expected to speak one language, yet somehow everyone does a damn good job at botching the operation.
Your and you're Their, they're and there It's and its To, two and too
These along with many others drive me insane. It isn't hard to write a halfway proper sentence, no one's expecting you to be perfect, but at the very least try to achieve a writing level higher than a fifth grader.
I should type in Jamaican to really mess ur head up. I only type proper for my job. Internet noobs dont pay my bills. I could also type in ebonics SMH internet dweebs. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
36
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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:59:00 -
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Fro Diesel wrote:nippy the fish wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:"Ignorance" kills more people than Grammar..... Fact. dunno mah grammar uz purty wickid with a shotty ^ I loled. Seriously though poor grammar and puntuation make some thing unbearable to read. I know I make more than my fair share of mistakes too. I often skip entire posts on these forums after the first few words due to them being very hard to read.
This. +1.
I don't give a **** if you use proper grammer and punctuation. I don't care if you want to buck the system or be 'cool' or 'make me understand your message'.
The truth is that if your message isn't *easily* readable, or if you sound like a 3rd grader trying to type gangster then I skip your post. Way to show me what's up. |
lllIIIlI IIIlIl
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:00:00 -
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wot |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1615
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:01:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, social elitist. I'm better then you because I can use a comma.
Communication is about delivering a message. You know what is being said, don't be a jerk and make fun of someone because of how it was delivered. When I have to read a post that's in all lower-case with no punctuation and nearly ever word misspelled, I'm not getting the message.
I'm getting a headache. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1452
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:08:00 -
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CaN i HaZ a ChEeZe BuRgEr? |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
523
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:11:00 -
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inb4 potato |
LT Dans Legs
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
99
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:21:00 -
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Ya, grammar would be like those idiots that say turrent instead of turret. What the hell is a turrent. There no n in turret. Freakin idiots. Look it up. |
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LT Dans Legs
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
99
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:23:00 -
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Sorry about the lack of punctuation. Lmao. Missed the question mark. |
LXicon
Anarchy Revolution
99
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:28:00 -
[52] - Quote
< grabs pitchfork > ... and it's "by accident" not "on accident"! < /grabs pitchfork > |
Killar-12
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
3
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:32:00 -
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U no be my boss I come to ur house and beet you all up.
Just kidding, I'm not the best with grammar but still there is no need to be a prick(or d**k) about it. |
sgtBelson
S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement
13
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:44:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Ya, grammar would be like those idiots that say turrent instead of turret. What the hell is a turrent. There's no n in turret. Freakin idiots. Look it up.
For all 'intensive purposes', I 'could care less' about other people's grammar and punctuation...I, for one, have it 'down pact'.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
318
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:48:00 -
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I'm getting dumber as I read this thread. How about you guys go help your friend jack off the horse or something. |
Stupid Drunk1
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
98
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:59:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, social elitist. I'm better then you because I can use a comma.
Communication is about delivering a message. You know what is being said, don't be a jerk and make fun of someone because of how it was delivered. You're right, the problem is, messages are often misinterpreted due to improper grammar and punctuation. A communication delivered with proper grammar and punctuation is more easily understood by the audience. Indeed, this is the reason grammar and punctuation exist.
I was always taught grammar and punctuation is all about formal and informal settings. In a formal setting I expect 100% in other not a single mistake. So is this forum with an audience I do not know anything about a formal setting legally. When informally writing it is up to the writer. In a formal setting you would be laughed out of the room, or mocked
It is informal, and I do not expect at all with their educations: public/private/both to be right even 1%. I wouldn't expect the same, and for some less then a fifth grader for an improper setting is not wrong, for the writer gets to decide what is acceptable even if you cannot read it beauces or errors like "lets eat, grandma or lets eat grandma"
For example I throw out or use slang for contractions, I get rid of apostrophe rules, could care less about (semicolon; transition word, comma, and especially fu[-_-]ck commas. I listen to to my private/public teachers that have shared when to write formally, and for who, when, where, why.
Death too grammar *****' |
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