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Melted Kitt3n
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:48:00 -
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LAV's in terms of HP and mechanics are fine. No more of that 1 standard AV bullshit, but Exo will still OHK most standard ones.
However, the massive problem is their ability to run people over. Last I checked, there was a turret on it for a reason.
Don't remove this ability, but "nerf" it. It needs to take more than 2 km/h to run a person over, increase the speed that kills people. Basically anything but top or close to top speed only damages people, but if the LAV is travelling pretty fast, it should definitely crush people.
And bring back the dashboard bodies, where running people over had you slowed down until the body "decomposed". |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
522
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:53:00 -
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Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I think LAVs should take varying amounts of meaningful damage from light, medium, and heavy frames. Running over 10+ battle ready dropsuits should have your LAV reduced to a smoking heap. |
Blood Schart
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:55:00 -
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The obvious solution would be a healthy dose of proximity mines. Unfortunately the basic proxy mine can barely even take out a starter LAV anymore. |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:57:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I think LAVs should take varying amounts of meaningful damage from light, medium, and heavy frames. Running over 10+ battle ready dropsuits should have your LAV reduced to a smoking heap.
I agree heavies should do damage to the LAV, not to sure about light suits and medium suits. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
522
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:01:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I think LAVs should take varying amounts of meaningful damage from light, medium, and heavy frames. Running over 10+ battle ready dropsuits should have your LAV reduced to a smoking heap. I agree heavies should do damage to the LAV, not to sure about light suits and medium suits. Well heavies would be the only ones that did substantial. Maybe med could be 25% of what hitting a heavy would cause and light 10%. Not a lot but more than hitting air, light and med suits are still a hard object. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:09:00 -
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Melted Kitt3n wrote:LAV's in terms of HP and mechanics are fine. No more of that 1 standard AV bullshit, but Exo will still OHK most standard ones.
However, the massive problem is their ability to run people over. Last I checked, there was a turret on it for a reason.
Don't remove this ability, but "nerf" it. It needs to take more than 2 km/h to run a person over, increase the speed that kills people. Basically anything but top or close to top speed only damages people, but if the LAV is travelling pretty fast, it should definitely crush people.
And bring back the dashboard bodies, where running people over had you slowed down until the body "decomposed". sure and while your at it give me back my chassis so i can make my lightning fit of old. and just remove the turrent all together from the scout lav please i dont need nor do i want a turrent ona fitt with those stats :D ..of and give us a resuplly module for vehicles that resupply suits nearly (onboard nanites) for logi lavs ...also you should develop a shield transporter turrent and an armor repper turrent for the logi lavs instead of giving em a build in shield transporter give us logi turrents and make them slot specific so the will only be fit-table to logi vehicles. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
522
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:12:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Melted Kitt3n wrote:LAV's in terms of HP and mechanics are fine. No more of that 1 standard AV bullshit, but Exo will still OHK most standard ones.
However, the massive problem is their ability to run people over. Last I checked, there was a turret on it for a reason.
Don't remove this ability, but "nerf" it. It needs to take more than 2 km/h to run a person over, increase the speed that kills people. Basically anything but top or close to top speed only damages people, but if the LAV is travelling pretty fast, it should definitely crush people.
And bring back the dashboard bodies, where running people over had you slowed down until the body "decomposed". sure and while your at it give me back my chassis so i can make my lightning fit of old. and just remove the turrent all together from the logi lav please i dont need nor do i want a turrent :D ..of and give us a resuplly module for vehicles that resupply suits nearly (onboard nanites) for logi lavs ...also you should develop a shield transporter turrent and an armor repper turrent for the logi lavs instead of giving em a build in shield transporter give us logi turrents and make them slot specific so the will only be fit-table to logi vehicles. Why a logistics LAV has a assault based turret instead of support equipment is lost on me |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
79
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:15:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Melted Kitt3n wrote:LAV's in terms of HP and mechanics are fine. No more of that 1 standard AV bullshit, but Exo will still OHK most standard ones.
However, the massive problem is their ability to run people over. Last I checked, there was a turret on it for a reason.
Don't remove this ability, but "nerf" it. It needs to take more than 2 km/h to run a person over, increase the speed that kills people. Basically anything but top or close to top speed only damages people, but if the LAV is travelling pretty fast, it should definitely crush people.
And bring back the dashboard bodies, where running people over had you slowed down until the body "decomposed". sure and while your at it give me back my chassis so i can make my lightning fit of old. and just remove the turrent all together from the scout lav please i dont need nor do i want a turrent ona fitt with those stats :D ..of and give us a resuplly module for vehicles that resupply suits nearly (onboard nanites) for logi lavs ...also you should develop a shield transporter turrent and an armor repper turrent for the logi lavs instead of giving em a build in shield transporter give us logi turrents and make them slot specific so the will only be fit-table to logi vehicles. You don't have a turrent, you have a turret. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1349
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:17:00 -
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Should do damage based on how many hitpoints the person had, not their Suit Type.
Complex Armor Plating increases mass, increased mass is harder to move - should do more damage to the oncoming LAV.
Heavy with 1000+EHP? LAV should take 1000+ damage. You don't hit a deer and go on to hit the rest of the herd.
And don't you dare pull the "real life" argument - physics matters in a SCIENCE FICTION game. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
522
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:19:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Should do damage based on how many hitpoints the person had, not their Suit Type.
Complex Armor Plating increases mass, increased mass is harder to move - should do more damage to the oncoming LAV.
Heavy with 1000+EHP? LAV should take 1000+ damage. You don't hit a deer and go on to hit the rest of the herd.
And don't you dare pull the "real life" argument - physics matters in a SCIENCE FICTION game. A LAV is not a chevy impala. |
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Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1349
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:23:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Should do damage based on how many hitpoints the person had, not their Suit Type.
Complex Armor Plating increases mass, increased mass is harder to move - should do more damage to the oncoming LAV.
Heavy with 1000+EHP? LAV should take 1000+ damage. You don't hit a deer and go on to hit the rest of the herd.
And don't you dare pull the "real life" argument - physics matters in a SCIENCE FICTION game. A LAV is not a chevy impala.
It's still affected by physics, dude. You can't sit here and tell me that a vehicle, even a science fiction vehicle, moving at 90km/h will not -slow down and take damage- when it hits hundreds of pounds of flesh, bone and armor. |
Ynned Ivanova
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:23:00 -
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Seems fine to me, as long as they also go down without it seeming like I hit a brick wall. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
522
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:52:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Should do damage based on how many hitpoints the person had, not their Suit Type.
Complex Armor Plating increases mass, increased mass is harder to move - should do more damage to the oncoming LAV.
Heavy with 1000+EHP? LAV should take 1000+ damage. You don't hit a deer and go on to hit the rest of the herd.
And don't you dare pull the "real life" argument - physics matters in a SCIENCE FICTION game. A LAV is not a chevy impala. It's still affected by physics, dude. You can't sit here and tell me that a vehicle, even a science fiction vehicle, moving at 90km/h will not -slow down and take damage- when it hits hundreds of pounds of flesh, bone and armor. I agree, I think it should. I was just pointing out a LAV is not the same as what typically hits deer. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1432
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:06:00 -
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I'm fine with physics. Hitting a Shield tanked suit with 1/25th the mass of a LAV should slow it down by 1/25th of its speed.
An armor tanked heavy with 1//5th the mass of a LAV should reduce the speed after collision by 1/5th of its speed.
It's also fine to require a fatal amount of energy transfer. Something along the lines of 20mph on the open road and less if you are being crushed against a hard surface such as a wall. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
438
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:09:00 -
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lol... yea no just spec into AV. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1433
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:44:00 -
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Melted Kitt3n wrote:LAV's in terms of HP and mechanics are fine. No more of that 1 standard AV bullshit, but Exo will still OHK most standard ones.
However, the massive problem is their ability to run people over. Last I checked, there was a turret on it for a reason.
Don't remove this ability, but "nerf" it. It needs to take more than 2 km/h to run a person over, increase the speed that kills people. Basically anything but top or close to top speed only damages people, but if the LAV is travelling pretty fast, it should definitely crush people.
And bring back the dashboard bodies, where running people over had you slowed down until the body "decomposed".
Last I checked more people die each year to vehicular collisions than all forms of gunshots. This is actually one thing that CCP got right. What I would like to see is a special murder taxi version with spikes mounted on the front that would do additional damage on impact. It could even replace the turret. Heck, CCP could also offer blades that extend out from the sides to provide additional killing width. I'd be willing to skill back into vehicles for that. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
1351
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:14:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Melted Kitt3n wrote:LAV's in terms of HP and mechanics are fine. No more of that 1 standard AV bullshit, but Exo will still OHK most standard ones.
However, the massive problem is their ability to run people over. Last I checked, there was a turret on it for a reason.
Don't remove this ability, but "nerf" it. It needs to take more than 2 km/h to run a person over, increase the speed that kills people. Basically anything but top or close to top speed only damages people, but if the LAV is travelling pretty fast, it should definitely crush people.
And bring back the dashboard bodies, where running people over had you slowed down until the body "decomposed". Last I checked more people die each year to vehicular collisions than all forms of gunshots. This is actually one thing that CCP got right. What I would like to see is a special murder taxi version with spikes mounted on the front that would do additional damage on impact. It could even replace the turret. Heck, CCP could also offer blades that extend out from the sides to provide additional killing width. I'd be willing to skill back into vehicles for that.
You should drive your car into a light post and see if it keeps going, confirm these studies. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1435
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:19:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Skihids wrote:Melted Kitt3n wrote:LAV's in terms of HP and mechanics are fine. No more of that 1 standard AV bullshit, but Exo will still OHK most standard ones.
However, the massive problem is their ability to run people over. Last I checked, there was a turret on it for a reason.
Don't remove this ability, but "nerf" it. It needs to take more than 2 km/h to run a person over, increase the speed that kills people. Basically anything but top or close to top speed only damages people, but if the LAV is travelling pretty fast, it should definitely crush people.
And bring back the dashboard bodies, where running people over had you slowed down until the body "decomposed". Last I checked more people die each year to vehicular collisions than all forms of gunshots. This is actually one thing that CCP got right. What I would like to see is a special murder taxi version with spikes mounted on the front that would do additional damage on impact. It could even replace the turret. Heck, CCP could also offer blades that extend out from the sides to provide additional killing width. I'd be willing to skill back into vehicles for that. You should drive your car into a light post and see if it keeps going, confirm these studies.
Are you confusing the physics of elastic collisions between non-fixed objects with an elastic collision between one fixed and one non-fixed object, or are you just trolling? |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
522
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:23:00 -
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No on the Carmagedon style game. I doubt they are happy with murder taxis. Who even uses the turrets? |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
382
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:23:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote: You should drive your car into a light post and see if it keeps going, confirm these studies.
This makes me happy
HAV into Lamppost |
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