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EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1082	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:27:00 - [31] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Freshticles wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Can we call awoxing in dust jenzaing? jenzaing suggests that you fail to win the match by AWOXing. Silly imp. The point of AWOXing isn't victory, its tear extraction and fun. I'd call Jenza's efforts an unequivocal success. Ive noticed that the majority of bad players hide behind 'fun' 'tears' 'metagame' Really its just them exploiting a bad mechanic because they know when it gets fixed proper corps will take everything from them And I've noticed the majority of dimwits think that being good or bad in DUST rests solely on one's ability to fire a gun, failing to recognise that one can be very good at an FPS and still prefer the metagame. Whether or not we choose to play the game in a way that you recognise as skillful or not will usually have very little to do with whether or not we win. Its barely metagame Applying for a corp and then hopping into a PC battle with a squad is not metagame, its fastest finger 1st Its not skilled, its easy When its fixed then proper spies will have to rely information and gain trust and try to get into power of positions to blow the house down or at least help it along
Banned From Forums Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:28:00 - [32] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: And I've noticed the majority of dimwits think that being good or bad in DUST rests solely on one's ability to fire a gun, failing to recognise that one can be very good at an FPS and still prefer the metagame. Whether or not we choose to play the game in a way that you recognise as skillful or not will usually have very little to do with whether or not we win. FPS are stress relievers. A person should be able to come in and shoot the crap out of someone, feel good about themselves and go back to bed. If people wanted to deal with meta gaming they should go play Eve. Plenty of that horse crap going around there. And CCP said they want this game to be casual friendly. How do you expect a casual to come in and stay with all this meta gaming BS? So STFU and go back to Eve. The only we Dusters need you Eve capsulers for is to provide OBS. Like a dog. When we say come;- you guys come. When we say go;- you go!
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 372	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:32:00 - [33] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: When its fixed then proper spies will have to rely information and gain trust and try to get into power of positions to blow the house down or at least help it along Blow the house down? Really? In EVE a real spy can steal trillions and do irreparable damage. In this game, you can screw up a match, maybe a couple of matches. If you can make director you can steal the tiny Dust wallet that Eve Corps will allows Dust to have. Oh boy, you took 240 Million, good job, bye bye... LOL. Dust should be about easy spies, the guy popping in and just murding everyone and getting kicked out. There should be even more mechanics to improve this feature. Ways to sabotage stuff before the match even begins. Betrayal should be the name of the game, not something that happens rarely. The Red team should be able to make bids that you can see and possibly accept during the game!!! Like a prompt that says, Red offers 50,000,000 if you murder 20 of your team GO. and if you hit it, you get the cash.
Jaron Pollard Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 110	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:32:00 - [34] - Quote Banned From Forums wrote: FPS are stress relievers. A person should be able to come in and shoot the crap out of someone, feel good about themselves and go back to bed. If people wanted to deal with meta gaming they should go play Eve. Plenty of that horse crap going around there. I guess that would depend on whether you had a good day or a bad day. By the way, whenever someone tells me what games are supposed to be, why do I endlessly have to remind them that that is only what the game is for them? For someone else, it's going to be about something else. Quote: And CCP said they want this game to be casual friendly. How do you expect a casual to come in and stay with all this meta gaming BS? They say that about EVE too, which is also casual friendly. If you want casual friendly, don't go to nul sec. Likewise, if you want casual friendly in DUST, don't go to PC. Quote: So STFU and go back to Eve. The only we Dusters need you Eve capsulers for is to provide OBS. Like a dog. When we say come;- you guys come. When we say go;- you go! Or, we can keep awoxing you until you remember that EVE and DUST are now 2-in-1, and that, as CCP intended from the beginning, what happens in one can and will affect the other. So no deal, I won't be told how to play a game I enjoy by some spoiled COD brat. New deal: we'll play it our way, you play it yours. Either keep losing to awoxers and whining about them, or learn something from the experience and get better. Also, I do hope that someone you summon for OB realises how you think of them, and decides to target you instead. Just for the lulz.
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 26	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:34:00 - [35] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Can we call awoxing in dust jenzaing? as a member of CPM, who sole reason for existence is make this game better, I'm so glad youre a complete douche. i find it slightly difficult to respect the position you represent.
Banned From Forums Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:37:00 - [36] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: So no deal, I won't be told how to play a game I enjoy by some spoiled COD brat. New deal: we'll play it our way, you play it yours. Either keep losing to awoxers and whining about them, or learn something from the experience and get better. Get over it! No one is gonna play the game the Eve way. You think all the skilled players are going to let you do it that way. FPSers love fighting and more content. You think they will care about all this meta gaming BS. Meta game has failed. Cronos and Orions got their butts whopped. Now its time to get their gun game in order. You think about meta gaming DU people have achieved something? BS!
Banned From Forums Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:38:00 - [37] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: Also, I do hope that someone you summon for OB realises how you think of them, and decides to target you instead. Just for the lulz. They cant. Jokes on you.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1082	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:39:00 - [38] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: When its fixed then proper spies will have to rely information and gain trust and try to get into power of positions to blow the house down or at least help it along Blow the house down? Really? In EVE a real spy can steal trillions and do irreparable damage. In this game, you can screw up a match, maybe a couple of matches. If you can make director you can steal the tiny Dust wallet that Eve Corps will allows Dust to have. Oh boy, you took 240 Million, good job, bye bye... LOL. Dust should be about easy spies, the guy popping in and just murding everyone and getting kicked out. There should be even more mechanics to improve this feature. Ways to sabotage stuff before the match even begins. Betrayal should be the name of the game, not something that happens rarely. The Red team should be able to make bids that you can see and possibly accept during the game!!! Like a prompt that says, Red offers 50,000,000 if you murder 20 of your team GO. and if you hit it, you get the cash. In EVE that takes time to get upto the seat of the directors table to steal everything, it should be the same in DUST As for awoxing you can do it in an EVE fleet then you get blown up instantly and booted, in DUST you join the match with your TK squad and start killing everyone but the corp cannot do anyting about you except to kill you but thats it, they cannot remove you like in EVE dureing a fleet fight and send you back to station plus anyone in corp can join a PC battle where as in EVE for a fleet fight you can be somewhat secretive about it and sneak off into the night DUST metagame right now is **** poor and easy to do because the mode itself is broken
Jaron Pollard Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 111	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:44:00 - [39] - Quote Banned From Forums wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: So no deal, I won't be told how to play a game I enjoy by some spoiled COD brat. New deal: we'll play it our way, you play it yours. Either keep losing to awoxers and whining about them, or learn something from the experience and get better. Get over it! No one is gonna play the game the Eve way. You think all the skilled players are going to let you do it that way. FPSers love fighting and more content. You think they will care about all this meta gaming BS. Meta game has failed. Cronos and Orions got their butts whopped. Now its time to get their gun game in order. You think about meta gaming DU people have achieved something? BS! You dope, people are already playing it the EVE way, hence awoxing. The problem with FPS players is one that was suspected from the start, that they were all raised on games like COD being spoonfed map packs and dull "point and shoot nothing else to it" games. The thing is, it has achieved something. It's made you mad. Now, you're getting all emotional. If you get this emotional about it in the forums, you must lose your absolute **** when it happens in game.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 530	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:56:00 - [40] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Freshticles wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Can we call awoxing in dust jenzaing? jenzaing suggests that you fail to win the match by AWOXing. 66% success rate so far! we lost a few of our saboteurs in the hellstorm match to the loading bug So you're blaming your loss on the fact you lost a few saboteurs. Even though you still had tree and technically outnumbered them by 19-13. 6 Player difference there. Oh wow.

The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 261	Posted - 2013.05.20 15:59:00 - [41] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Freshticles wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Can we call awoxing in dust jenzaing? jenzaing suggests that you fail to win the match by AWOXing. Silly imp. The point of AWOXing isn't victory, its tear extraction and fun. I'd call Jenza's efforts an unequivocal success. Indeed
Banned From Forums Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:14:00 - [42] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: You dope, people are already playing it the EVE way, hence awoxing. The problem with FPS players is one that was suspected from the start, that they were all raised on games like COD being spoonfed map packs and dull "point and shoot nothing else to it" games. The thing is, it has achieved something. It's made you mad. Now, you're getting all emotional. If you get this emotional about it in the forums, you must lose your absolute **** when it happens in game. They might be playing the Eve way but they are loosing. How long do you thing people will adopt a failing ideology? Now corps are just gonna have holding corps. There go your AWOX. You cant get districts if you cant access them. Dope that out dude!
Banned From Forums Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:16:00 - [43] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: So you're blaming your loss on the fact you lost a few saboteurs. Even though you still had tree and technically outnumbered them by 19-13. 6 Player difference there. Oh wow. Its Betamax guys. They cant get anything right.
Jaron Pollard Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 114	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:20:00 - [44] - Quote Banned From Forums wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: You dope, people are already playing it the EVE way, hence awoxing. The problem with FPS players is one that was suspected from the start, that they were all raised on games like COD being spoonfed map packs and dull "point and shoot nothing else to it" games. The thing is, it has achieved something. It's made you mad. Now, you're getting all emotional. If you get this emotional about it in the forums, you must lose your absolute **** when it happens in game. They might be playing the Eve way but they are loosing. How long do you thing people will adopt a failing ideology? Now corps are just gonna have holding corps. There go your AWOX. You cant get districts if you cant access them. Dope that out dude! Failing? How can it be failing when it's only just getting started? I haven't actually been privy to any PC yet, but I've seen this conversation before, when awox himself first started dancing. That's right, the guy who pretty much invented it, who it's named for. It went pretty much the same way it's going now. Since then, whole corps in EVE have been decimated and billions stolen by infiltrations and spies that barely even had to try. I look forward to seeing similar results here. Also, *losing. Just one 'o'. "Loose" is the opposite of "tight". Please learn to brain better.
Banned From Forums Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:23:00 - [45] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: I haven't actually been privy to any PC yet, That's says it all;- forum warrior talking about stuff they don't about. If you had told me you were an idiot before I would have left you alone.
Jaron Pollard Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 114	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:25:00 - [46] - Quote Banned From Forums wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: I haven't actually been privy to any PC yet, That's says it all;- forum warrior talking about stuff they don't about. If you had told me you were an idiot before I would have left you alone. Nice work with the quote mining. I know a lot about awoxing, and I just explained that. I was there when it was new to EVE, too, and already know how exactly CCP will respond. A PC match is just like any other at this stage, except FF is on, and it's a battle for corp-owned territory. So there's a lot that I can assume, and will get right. I've gotten a few minor details wrong, but I've been corrected thoroughly and learned something. You should try learning some time too.
Banned From Forums Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:29:00 - [47] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: Banned From Forums wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: I haven't actually been privy to any PC yet, That's says it all;- forum warrior talking about stuff they don't about. If you had told me you were an idiot before I would have left you alone. Nice work with the quote mining. I know a lot about awoxing, and I just explained that. I was there when it was new to EVE, too, and already know how exactly CCP will respond. A PC match is just like any other at this stage, except FF is on, and it's a battle for corp-owned territory. So there's a lot that I can assume, and will get right. I've gotten a few minor details wrong, but I've been corrected thoroughly and learned something. You should try learning some time too. I have highlighted where you lost me. Enjoy your trolling.
Jaron Pollard Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 114	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:30:00 - [48] - Quote Banned From Forums wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: Banned From Forums wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: I haven't actually been privy to any PC yet, That's says it all;- forum warrior talking about stuff they don't about. If you had told me you were an idiot before I would have left you alone. Nice work with the quote mining. I know a lot about awoxing, and I just explained that. I was there when it was new to EVE, too, and already know how exactly CCP will respond. A PC match is just like any other at this stage, except FF is on, and it's a battle for corp-owned territory. So there's a lot that I can assume, and will get right. I've gotten a few minor details wrong, but I've been corrected thoroughly and learned something. You should try learning some time too. I have highlighted where you lost me. Enjoy your trolling. It's easy to lose someone who was already lost, so I'm not surprised. Here's the live version. It's pretty good, actually. Also, I should explain quote mining. It's where you take a single piece of something that someone has said out of context, ignore everything else they said, most of which is relevant to the point they were making, and make it look like they were saying something completely different. It's incredibly dishonest, just as bad as outright lying really. It can be considered as a form of libel or slander in a court of law, by the way. So, now that you've just lost your e-honour, welcome to new eden.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 375	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:44:00 - [49] - Quote Lets get some real spy action going on Feedback/Request Thread
Gravity Sucks Grief University 5	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:47:00 - [50] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Thr imps are just pissed they didn't think of it first they get all moody when the spotlight is taken away from them :-P Betamax is pissed they didn't think of awoxing first and got beat to it by Grief University

DeeJay One BetaMax. CRONOS. 30	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:58:00 - [51] - Quote SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote: No wonder everybody wants you guys removed - you don't even know how to play the game to win. There's no such thing as a definitive WIN in New Eden, you can only make the odds more on your side...
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 334	Posted - 2013.05.20 17:00:00 - [52] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Must admit the fourm qq has been so good even the imps got jellous :-P not looking forward to that reprisal lol steadyhand why would you go from imperfects to betamax it's like going from ivy league to public school, i mean the curriculum might me tough at ivy but bro
SoTa ReGnUM PoP Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 164	Posted - 2013.05.20 17:05:00 - [53] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote: No wonder everybody wants you guys removed - you don't even know how to play the game to win. There's no such thing as a definitive WIN in New Eden, you can only make the odds more on your side... So is there no such thing is broken mechanics either because it's all 'meta?' Lol EVE had a small population for good reason it seems. Glad you eve-tards are here to make sure dust is a small populated game too. +1 Lol
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 324	Posted - 2013.05.20 17:22:00 - [54] - Quote Banned From Forums wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: So you're blaming your loss on the fact you lost a few saboteurs. Even though you still had tree and technically outnumbered them by 19-13. 6 Player difference there. Oh wow. Its Betamax guys. They cant get anything right. CCP actually said at fanfest Imperfects and BetaMax the 2 most dominating corps in Dust. They got something right I guess. Not that CCP knows who plays their game or what goes on in the game or anything. "I'll gladly take your money" They also said this at Fanfest.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 904	Posted - 2013.05.20 18:39:00 - [55] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Can we call awoxing in dust jenzaing? In certain circles we call it other things. Failzaing.
Revelations 514 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2013.05.20 18:56:00 - [56] - Quote I don't see what the big deal is. If your casual, your not gonna be in too many PC matches anyways. May as well have the ability to meta even if you don't use it. Have some human corp management skills to go with your in game corp management skills. Lessons learned, secrets out now. Just learn from it and move on. While I don't use meta gaming yet, I would like the opportunity to do so if I choose in the future. Having CCP dictate that this cannot be done would be a betrayal to what makes this game different imo. But hey, I'm nobody but a guy with an opinion.
Schalac 17 Murderz for hire 157	Posted - 2013.05.20 18:57:00 - [57] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Freshticles wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Can we call awoxing in dust jenzaing? jenzaing suggests that you fail to win the match by AWOXing. 66% success rate so far! we lost a few of our saboteurs in the hellstorm match to the loading bug You still had no vision about what to do when you actually got into the match and for this you fail. Just running around team-killing is weak. Now if you would of setup a medic circle ala BF2 medic camping and gotten your squad leaders OB after OB then it would of been an awesome show of power and sabotage. You have no vision though and even with double the clones on your side you still lost out to MCC destruction. Bad form, but then again that is all I ever see when I play against those with the Betamax tag.
Philipp Achtel Goonfeet 50	Posted - 2013.05.20 18:59:00 - [58] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Can we call awoxing in dust jenzaing? A little ballsy to plant your flag over something you weren't the first person to discover or pull off, don't you think?
Draco Cerberus Purgatorium of the Damned 42	Posted - 2013.05.20 19:03:00 - [59] - Quote Can we make it so anyone who TKs ends up in BetaMax?
Severance Pay Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 219	Posted - 2013.05.20 19:16:00 - [60] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Freshticles wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Can we call awoxing in dust jenzaing? jenzaing suggests that you fail to win the match by AWOXing. 66% success rate so far! we lost a few of our saboteurs in the hellstorm match to the loading bug 0% against Hellstorm. FIXED. Anyway, you had 2 which put the match at 18 vs 14 and when your spies die they depleat our clones, how much of any edge would you need to beat Hellstorm?



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