DUST Search - CCP's view on CPM members(s) actively involved in current broken AWOXing sys...

Maken Tosch wrote:

Eve Online has a system in place called Fleets. Before a group of capsuleers go into battle, they often get into a fleet that requires the permission of the fleet commander to join. Once you are in the fleet you are given access to features such as warp-to-friend, broadcast target, broadcast location, fleet bonuses to your ship stats, etc. On top of that, the fleet commander can choose to setup the fleet to only accept members based on standings or make it completely open for everyone in the corp.

Dust can adopt a system like this for planetary conquest battles. Set the battle to only accept members who have earned a certain level of trust wiith the corp.

This will allow the CEO and his directors to mitigate the possibily of an awoxer coming in and destroying any chance of success. But notice I said mitigate and not prevent. If there is anything to learn from Eve Online is that no matter how strict the system is created by the player corps and their CEO the awoxer/spy/traitor/whatever will find a way to get in simply by virtue of gaining your trust and exploiting that trust he has been given when the time is right.


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Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 993	Posted - 2013.05.20 13:55:00 - [1] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: awoxing is absolutely too easy but shouldnt be impossible. Thats why im suggesting a role that is attached to being able to join corp matches, that way if the CEO/director trusts the wrong person, they only have themselves to blame Posted: 2013.03.27 17:15 [SUGGESTION] - More Control over Corp Battles Response Posted: 2013.03.29 23:47 CCP FoxFour wrote: Hey, We agree there needs to be a way for the CEO and directors of a corporation to control who is in a match. We won't be brining any changes to this for Uprising, but we are looking at things we can do after Uprising at some point. We are currently thinking of adding the ability to kick people from the match if you are a CEO or Director. For now, make sure people joining your corporation understand that they shouldn't be joining these matches unless told to do so. Not the greatest solution, but we are aware and looking at solutions. :)
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 996	Posted - 2013.05.20 17:54:00 - [2] - Quote Laheon wrote: Frankly, if you take people into PC that you can't trust implicitly, you're playing the game wrong. How about if you ever allow the acceptance of applicants who you can't completely trust in advance of ever accepting them? There is no "taking" anyone into PC there's the ability for anyone with the Corp tag to form a squad of anyone and drop into the battle. No roles are required, no trust, no screening of the squad or vetting of any kind is allowed by the current interface. All you have is Open battle finder --> move two tabs right --> hi light "join" --> hit X That's not meta game, that's not an accomplishment, that's just an annoying unfinished game mechanic. Oh and by the way CCP were the first to suggest including kicking, they just haven't gotten to it yet. In EVE if you attack your fleet you get popped and podded, you don't get to keep docking up and picking out a new ship from the corp hanger to go TK again. Someone getting a Dir position with roles, passwords and access that takes effort. Someone clicking "join battle" there's no accomplishment in that. CCP please implement both roles and kicking before the next build, lack of them has a negative impact on PC and it's perception from those who aren't already versed in New Eden.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 996	Posted - 2013.05.20 18:00:00 - [3] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Eve Online has a system in place called Fleets. Before a group of capsuleers go into battle, they often get into a fleet that requires the permission of the fleet commander to join. Once you are in the fleet you are given access to features such as warp-to-friend, broadcast target, broadcast location, fleet bonuses to your ship stats, etc. On top of that, the fleet commander can choose to setup the fleet to only accept members based on standings or make it completely open for everyone in the corp. Dust can adopt a system like this for planetary conquest battles. Set the battle to only accept members who have earned a certain level of trust wiith the corp. This will allow the CEO and his directors to mitigate the possibily of an awoxer coming in and destroying any chance of success. But notice I said mitigate and not prevent. If there is anything to learn from Eve Online is that no matter how strict the system is created by the player corps and their CEO the awoxer/spy/traitor/whatever will find a way to get in simply by virtue of gaining your trust and exploiting that trust he has been given when the time is right. +1 The problem with the current situation is the total lack of effective or legitimate tools to manage anything. With tools in place this kind of thing happening is on the Corps CEO/Dir Currently it's just an unfinished mechanic be exploited by a high profile player making D514 look less complete/finished.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 996	Posted - 2013.05.20 18:33:00 - [4] - Quote zeroknexus wrote: ** THREADNOUGHT ALERT ** Lol, yet another awoxing thread that is turning into a threadnought, you guys just don't get it do you? Fact 1 : CCP are fully aware of the situation. You guys do understand they actually designed the game to be like this right? Your facts are wrong right at fact 1. CCP has confirmed several times and locations (including a thread that is as of this post on the front page in this very section of the forums) that they are working towards integrating features which prevent the specific situation this thread is discussing. Being clever and playing the meta game is not equivalent to pressing "join battle" with hostiles in your squad. I'm honestly surprised by how many players seem to think that the cloak and dagger meta in EVE can be described as the same phenomena displayed but leaning on an unfinished game mechanic within a barely past release build of D514. Figured the EVE players present would have more pride in their work if nothing else.