remove all war point gain while in the red line

Yesterday, I spawned in with my team at the very beginning of Manus Peak. I brought in a Python, waited for my squad to load up, and lifted off. Once I was off the ground, I instantly took a rail round. I don't know how; the match had just started and I was still deep in my own red line. I maneuvered away, and safely deposited my team at C. I went searching, blew up an installation, and was hit by another rail round. Slinging away, I went back to my MCC and waited for my shields to regen.

Revitalized, I went on the hunt. Off the other side of the map, a sniper tank was sitting in the enemy's red line. A Python is absolute death from above to most tanks, but a tank in the red line is like a cat sitting just past the end of a dog's chain. Accepting there was nothing that could be done about him, I flew away to assist my team and was promptly removed from the air.

This was now the 3rd match in a row I'd lost my dropship (in 2 shots) to a red line tank that I could do nothing about. I reached forward, pushed the power button on my PS3, and walked away.

I don't want to see tanks nerfed, I just want a fix to this red line problem. Either make the maps bigger , remove all war point gain while in the red line, or make dropships cost half of what they do currently (hull and modules combined).

TL;DR Started this build with 130M ISK and now have <75M, expect to continue to lose ISK. Rage-quit and played Skyrim yesterday.

Yesterday, I spawned in with my team at the very beginning of Manus Peak. I brought in a Python, waited for my squad to load up, and lifted off. Once I was off the ground, I instantly took a rail round. I don't know how; the match had just started and I was still deep in my own red line. I maneuvered away, and safely deposited my team at C. I went searching, blew up an installation, and was hit by another rail round. Slinging away, I went back to my MCC and waited for my shields to regen.

Revitalized, I went on the hunt. Off the other side of the map, a sniper tank was sitting in the enemy's red line. A Python is absolute death from above to most tanks, but a tank in the red line is like a cat sitting just past the end of a dog's chain. Accepting there was nothing that could be done about him, I flew away to assist my team and was promptly removed from the air.

This was now the 3rd match in a row I'd lost my dropship (in 2 shots) to a red line tank that I could do nothing about. I reached forward, pushed the power button on my PS3, and walked away.

I don't want to see tanks nerfed, I just want a fix to this red line problem. Either make the maps bigger , remove all war point gain while in the red line, or make dropships cost half of what they do currently (hull and modules combined).

TL;DR Started this build with 130M ISK and now have <75M, expect to continue to lose ISK. Rage-quit and played Skyrim yesterday.

Skyrim Rage Quit = Amazing!!!

+1 damn redline snipers, I hate them to the point I harass them when on my team as long as they're behind the redline

Plus don't feel too bad I have 5m risk so 75m is still a lot to play with.

Yesterday, I spawned in with my team at the very beginning of Manus Peak. I brought in a Python, waited for my squad to load up, and lifted off. Once I was off the ground, I instantly took a rail round. I don't know how; the match had just started and I was still deep in my own red line. I maneuvered away, and safely deposited my team at C. I went searching, blew up an installation, and was hit by another rail round. Slinging away, I went back to my MCC and waited for my shields to regen.

Revitalized, I went on the hunt. Off the other side of the map, a sniper tank was sitting in the enemy's red line. A Python is absolute death from above to most tanks, but a tank in the red line is like a cat sitting just past the end of a dog's chain. Accepting there was nothing that could be done about him, I flew away to assist my team and was promptly removed from the air.

This was now the 3rd match in a row I'd lost my dropship (in 2 shots) to a red line tank that I could do nothing about. I reached forward, pushed the power button on my PS3, and walked away.

I don't want to see tanks nerfed, I just want a fix to this red line problem. Either make the maps bigger , remove all war point gain while in the red line, or make dropships cost half of what they do currently (hull and modules combined).

TL;DR Started this build with 130M ISK and now have <75M, expect to continue to lose ISK. Rage-quit and played Skyrim yesterday.

My ship costs 1.3M ISK. I've been hemorrhaging ISK ever since this build started. Thankfully, the rate I've been losing it has slowed now that I'm used to assault dropships, but it's still steadily declining.

There should be a game mechanic that lets you push team members out of the MCC... Satisfying, helpful and hilarious!!

This is what you would see LOL.... SHOVE!!!

The issue is that you can't fix it that easily. What if the enemy team loses all the points and is pushed back into their redline?

Now, to add insult to injury, they can try as hard as they want to push out, and it won't get them anything. Both SP and ISK are partially tied to WP, so removing it would be like an extra kick in the balls on top of getting camped into your base.

There should be a game mechanic that lets you push team members out of the MCC... Satisfying, helpful and hilarious!!



This is what you would see LOL.... SHOVE!!!

Or you could get a forge gun and blow the tank apart, or you could get a tank on your team and have them do it, or you could just stay away from the tank like everyone else.

If it's a sniper, you could counter snipe, you could use an assault drop ship, you could just run the risk of a red line incursion.

The reason the redline exists in the first place is because if a team were overrun there would be no CRU to spawn on and then you'd all just stand under the MCC and shot players as they exited the MCC. The redline isn't going anywhere.

I disagree with deducting WP from players how snipe or tank from behind the redline as well. You should either adapt and overcome or avoid. If you TEAM, not your squad, but your team were working together in unison, then redline tanks and snipers wouldn't be nearly as big an issue.

If fact, the more that I think about it the more I think that I don't want anything that makes our job easier to do. If every battle went exactly how you wanted it, it would be a stale, there would be no need to adjust tactics or overcome the adversity on the battlefield. Then there would be no reason for anything except run and gun folks.

All this thread boils down to is someone got his little drop ship broken several times because was started raging and decided he was going to take out a tank no matter what. He failed, lost some ISK, and is now QQ to get some attention in hopes that CCP will do things his way. Grow up. I bet those servicemen and women in the middle east had wished that every fight had gone exactly the way they wanted, perhaps some of their friends wouldn't have died in combat. It's a shame when even video game players start getting PTSD from playing games all because they lack situational awareness and the ability to adapt and overcome. You don't want to lose your drop ship, then don't bring your toys on the battlefield. Loss of equipment is a risk that everyone takes in one way or another. Even redliners.

Found one... GET OUT OF THE MCC *THUD*

Yeap sure am. Whatcha going to do about? Nothing. I get 6-7K and 120K ISK for doing nothing. I'm ok with that, most of you have the coordination of a blind, deaf, autistic kid with a club foot. And quite frankly, since most players can't even get the basic concept of squading up to improve team play and increase the chances of winning, I will most assuredly AFK grind. Also, I see no point in running around wasting ISK until the skill trees are fixed.

Now if I'm on a decent team with known decent or better players, then I squad up and contribute. I'm ok with AFK grinding, in fact I'd love to just a whole match of AFK grinders just to see how long it would take to get to a draw, or perhaps just both teams all get in the MMC and everyone jump and crash to the ground to see who can do it the most times before clones run out. My personal record is 35 times before the end of a match with me being the only one doing it.

Or you could get a forge gun and blow the tank apart, or you could get a tank on your team and have them do it, or you could just stay away from the tank like everyone else.

If it's a sniper, you could counter snipe, you could use an assault drop ship, you could just run the risk of a red line incursion.

The reason the redline exists in the first place is because if a team were overrun there would be no CRU to spawn on and then you'd all just stand under the MCC and shot players as they exited the MCC. The redline isn't going anywhere.

Yesterday, I spawned in with my team at the very beginning of Manus Peak. I brought in a Python, waited for my squad to load up, and lifted off. Once I was off the ground, I instantly took a rail round. I don't know how; the match had just started and I was still deep in my own red line. I maneuvered away, and safely deposited my team at C. I went searching, blew up an installation, and was hit by another rail round. Slinging away, I went back to my MCC and waited for my shields to regen.

Revitalized, I went on the hunt. Off the other side of the map, a sniper tank was sitting in the enemy's red line. A Python is absolute death from above to most tanks, but a tank in the red line is like a cat sitting just past the end of a dog's chain. Accepting there was nothing that could be done about him, I flew away to assist my team and was promptly removed from the air.

This was now the 3rd match in a row I'd lost my dropship (in 2 shots) to a red line tank that I could do nothing about. I reached forward, pushed the power button on my PS3, and walked away.

I don't want to see tanks nerfed, I just want a fix to this red line problem. Either make the maps bigger , remove all war point gain while in the red line, or make dropships cost half of what they do currently (hull and modules combined).

TL;DR Started this build with 130M ISK and now have <75M, expect to continue to lose ISK. Rage-quit and played Skyrim yesterday.

My ship costs 1.3M ISK. I've been hemorrhaging ISK ever since this build started. Thankfully, the rate I've been losing it has slowed now that I'm used to assault dropships, but it's still steadily declining.

Friendly fire, coming to a build near you.
Its going to be a great day, just like all the afk miners in eve. My guns will taste the tears of your free run coming to a end!