Maybe this has been said before, but new people have a HUGE disadvantage over old players cause they have limited SP and are limited by the weekly SP cap, meaning they will never catch up to us. I suggest they should not have an SP cap until they get 4-5m SP. I recently (yesterday) invited a friend to the game and he didn't like when I told him about the weekly cap, so that's a huge turn off for new players like him.

Bingo

There should be a rolling ceiling . Right now letGÇÖs say the max points anyone in game could have is 15m. So remove the ceiling for everyone under that and have that ceiling raise every week.

Active boosters simply multiply the number of skill points you receive at the end of each battle. As such, you are better off activating them when your pool of battle skill points is full (e.g. at the beginning of each weekly cycle). If you play a lot, you might be better off with a shorter (e.g. 3-day) active booster as it will allow you to earn bulk of the extra SP by playing a lot while it is active. If you prefer a more casual style of play, you might prefer to have the boost active throughout and have the freedom to spread your play over more days without worrying about it too much.

Now, in regard to the weekly skill cap and the implications of it:

We acknowledge that the current implementation of the skill cap still isn't quite there yet. It doesn't quite allow people to choose when to play as freely as we would like, and it also adds some unnecessary complexity when it comes to using active boosters. This is why we are working our way towards a rollover SP system: instead having your pool of bonus SP being reset according to a fixed weekly cycle, you will steadily accumulate bonus SP to a pool over time that you can then empty through fighting in battles. As a result, everyone should be able to better choose when to come in and claim the available SP. Moving to such a system would have the added benefit of allowing us to make active boosters to give out a constant value over time by having them influence the rate at which SP accumulates into the pool instead of just multiplying SP received at the end of each battle.

Bingo.

There should be a rolling ceiling . Right now letGÇÖs say the max points anyone in game could have is 15m. So remove the ceiling for everyone under that and have that ceiling raise every week.

Active boosters simply multiply the number of skill points you receive at the end of each battle. As such, you are better off activating them when your pool of battle skill points is full (e.g. at the beginning of each weekly cycle). If you play a lot, you might be better off with a shorter (e.g. 3-day) active booster as it will allow you to earn bulk of the extra SP by playing a lot while it is active. If you prefer a more casual style of play, you might prefer to have the boost active throughout and have the freedom to spread your play over more days without worrying about it too much.

Now, in regard to the weekly skill cap and the implications of it:

We acknowledge that the current implementation of the skill cap still isn't quite there yet. It doesn't quite allow people to choose when to play as freely as we would like, and it also adds some unnecessary complexity when it comes to using active boosters. This is why we are working our way towards a rollover SP system: instead having your pool of bonus SP being reset according to a fixed weekly cycle, you will steadily accumulate bonus SP to a pool over time that you can then empty through fighting in battles. As a result, everyone should be able to better choose when to come in and claim the available SP. Moving to such a system would have the added benefit of allowing us to make active boosters to give out a constant value over time by having them influence the rate at which SP accumulates into the pool instead of just multiplying SP received at the end of each battle.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=79256&p=3

I would suggest waiting for the new system already in the works, testing it and going from there. Of course if the proposed system seems inadequate feedback can always be tailored to help hone it prior to it's release.

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Cross

I don't see the need for a sp cap except that CCP can't do matchmaking right. If matchmaking split people up by skill a sp cap would be pointless. Vets with vets, noobs with noobs, how hard is that CCP? Or maybe we just need a lobby system not matchmaking.

Maybe this has been said before, but new people have a HUGE disadvantage over old players cause they have limited SP and are limited by the weekly SP cap, meaning they will never catch up to us. I suggest they should not have an SP cap until they get 4-5m SP. I recently (yesterday) invited a friend to the game and he didn't like when I told him about the weekly cap, so that's a huge turn off for new players like him.

Maybe this has been said before, but new people have a HUGE disadvantage over old players cause they have limited SP and are limited by the weekly SP cap, meaning they will never catch up to us. I suggest they should not have an SP cap until they get 4-5m SP. I recently (yesterday) invited a friend to the game and he didn't like when I told him about the weekly cap, so that's a huge turn off for new players like him.

The game is designed to make you work for your success, and it shouldn't change because newcomers want to be more competitive immediately, although I do understand from where those wishes are coming.

The idea is sound but unfortunately new players are going to be the largest purchasers of boosters so removing their incentive by giving them a natural boost unfortunately makes very little sense from a business perspective. Not saying I like it or anything but it really is something that we just have to accept because at the end of the day CCP has to make a profit or no more EVE/DUST.

If they can make it work then that's their business. I'm only pointing out that it is unlikely to happen but I don't think that CCP being greedy as much as it is the nature of the game being F2P.

Bingo.

There should be a rolling ceiling . Right now letGÇÖs say the max points anyone in game could have is 15m. So remove the ceiling for everyone under that and have that ceiling raise every week.

Yes.

Bingo.

There should be a rolling ceiling . Right now letGÇÖs say the max points anyone in game could have is 15m. So remove the ceiling for everyone under that and have that ceiling raise every week.

I understand that you have to work for success, I did, but I was never at a real disadvantage cause I started playing a week after open beta started. Raising the cap for new players doesn't mean that they will be more competitive immediately, they still have to work hard for that. But it will mean that they won't need to wait months and months to get a good amount of SP to actually be competitive. You know it takes months to get 5m SP.

I'm ok with this. I'd actually set a cap at no more than 3 million or somewhere near that. perhaps.

We acknowledge that the current implementation of the skill cap still isn't quite there yet. It doesn't quite allow people to choose when to play as freely as we would like, and it also adds some unnecessary complexity when it comes to using active boosters. This is why we are working our way towards a rollover SP system: instead having your pool of bonus SP being reset according to a fixed weekly cycle, you will steadily accumulate bonus SP to a pool over time that you can then empty through fighting in battles. As a result, everyone should be able to better choose when to come in and claim the available SP. Moving to such a system would have the added benefit of allowing us to make active boosters to give out a constant value over time by having them influence the rate at which SP accumulates into the pool instead of just multiplying SP received at the end of each battle.