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Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:41:00 -
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I really miss EVE Online after looking through all the videos, screenshots, stories, and even the polished Disc case. But going back now would be another huge time commitment. Now I'm with Dust 514 and I hope it would be just as great and massive as EVE Online one day. Right now, most of us have to bear with the newberries when it comes to the broken toys that they can't seem to be patient about. When most of them are weeded out, the mature community will be here to stay. At least, I hope so. Frankly, I was embarrassed to look through the EVE Online forums where they saw our forum here with all the newberries complaining. But what can we do? What we can do as a community is to look at EVE Online community's example and just report the problems without whining the best we can and to remind the newberries without stroking any flames. I know CCP is doing all they can and they can't intervene us all the time when they have already said they're working hard to fix all the problems on the game. |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:43:00 -
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Just WAIT till they see our community crying about AWOXing, something advertised and supported in EVE  |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:45:00 -
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To be honest they are working on ways to seperate you from your cash.
Fixes you like are a byproduct of this and nothing more or they wouldn't have released things in such a broken state in the first place. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:46:00 -
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I should give a toss, why ? |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:48:00 -
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I kinda doubt it, Eve has quite a large amount of whiners, just a different complaint than in Dust. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:52:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Just WAIT till they see our community crying about AWOXing, something advertised and supported in EVE
But in EVE you have a whole array of tools to stop sabotages and spies |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:52:00 -
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They're in space, of course they look down on us. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:52:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Just WAIT till they see our community crying about AWOXing, something advertised and supported in EVE
Ain't that the damned truth. Earlier today I spooked my corp about the likely possibility of our ISKs and assets being stolen one day. Most newberries don't know this yet. CCP's going soft right now until the steady growth and when everything's fixed, aren't they. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:54:00 -
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Im kind of saddened to hear this....I wanted to be an important part of EVE both planetside and space side....what happens when they dont employ us because people are bitching too much? |
Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:55:00 -
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We're the kids playing on their front lawns, of course they are going to look down on us while waving their canes and yelling, "Get off my lawn!" |
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Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:59:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Just WAIT till they see our community crying about AWOXing, something advertised and supported in EVE But in EVE you have a whole array of tools to stop sabotages and spies
And in Dust you do also.
1. Recruitment corps
2. Give 'em the steel-cap boot after the spy is discovered in a match.
You have to consider in EVE kicking someone doesn't make them magically disappear like newberries want right now in Dust. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
357
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:01:00 -
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Don't believe the OP, if you have seen the EVE Forums, then you would know that those people are just as screwed up as us. Its just their game is set in stone where as ours is fresh.
However the correct answer to every question is
HTFU
STFU
Welcome to New Eden
and
Would you like cheese with that whine? |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:03:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I kinda doubt it, Eve has quite a large amount of whiners, just a different complaint than in Dust.
Everyone complains, but I think the EVE community has certain problems that are very different from Dust 514. If EVE was in the early stages like Dust, then that would be understandable. But most of the community on Dust comes from FPS games, especially COD and they act like children or have ADHD. I can't deny that some of us who regularly play Dust and participate in the forum here come from COD too, but that doesn't mean all of us are the same. I do complain too, but I try the best I can to be respectful. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:20:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I kinda doubt it, Eve has quite a large amount of whiners, just a different complaint than in Dust. Everyone complains, but I think the EVE community has certain problems that are very different from Dust 514. If EVE was in the early stages like Dust, then that would be understandable. But most of the community on Dust comes from FPS games, especially COD and they act like children or have ADHD. I can't deny that some of us who regularly play Dust and participate in the forum here come from COD too, but that doesn't mean all of us are the same. I do complain too, but I try the best I can to be respectful.
Let's take a look at some of the things Eve players complain about. A thread I see quite often is asking for the claiming of asteroid belts, which not only they do no work to find but that's also whining about people mining "your" ore. Another one that comes up every few weeks is for the removal of corp friendly fire. One that has a legitimate reason to be complained about is often related to a scenario it doesn't apply to, that advantage being having someone remote repair your ship during a duel. And last but certainly not the least brought up is afk and "afk" cloaking in another alliance's sovereignty. Which in either case you can't be hurt by the ship until it's uncloaked. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
528
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:22:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Just WAIT till they see our community crying about AWOXing, something advertised and supported in EVE
Yea but in EVE its not abusing a broken mechanic.
Like others have said you dont need to gain any actual trust to sabotage a PC battle, you just have to get into the corp. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:25:00 -
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Kinda ironic, I didn't think to post an idea for covert ops cloak capable logistic ships until after I got hot dropped (a powerful ship was basically signalled to bypass a few system gates and kill me) due to me not paying attention while under "substances". I still posted the idea anyway, even though I knew it would potentially make the guy who killed me's job quite a bit easier. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:27:00 -
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I know a lot of FPS games that are embarrassed for Dust 514 too.
And I know a lot of other MMO players that are embarrassed about playing EVE. You ever try telling one of your buddies why it is they should try eve out? only after words you find your self saying "If you don't like it's fine" cause they might BORED with it. lol |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3122
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:28:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:They're in space, of course they look down on us.
I was gonna say, to be fair.... |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
728
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:33:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Just WAIT till they see our community crying about AWOXing, something advertised and supported in EVE Yea but in EVE its not abusing a broken mechanic. Like others have said you dont need to gain any actual trust to sabotage a PC battle, you just have to get into the corp.
That doesn't quite mean that none of the complaints are groundless, lets say if your enemy uses a neutral logistic helper during a war, it's actually broken since you can't attack that logi without Concord killing you. Not to mention of grid warfare link boosting from inside a POS, which are so safe multiple Titans are put in them. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 13:33:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Just WAIT till they see our community crying about AWOXing, something advertised and supported in EVE Yea but in EVE its not abusing a broken mechanic. Like others have said you dont need to gain any actual trust to sabotage a PC battle, you just have to get into the corp.
Just like joining a fleet. Reputation and trust are the only true currencies in New Eden. Good corps had this sorted a while ago and people go by your name. This whole incident probably fixed the problem enough to where it is a non issue. |
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 13:36:00 -
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1 PC battle = one fleet |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.05.20 13:56:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Just WAIT till they see our community crying about AWOXing, something advertised and supported in EVE
Oh we've seen it. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 13:57:00 -
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(Wannabe) Elitist nerds playing a glorified version of Battleship don't like you?
Unfortunate. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
728
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:04:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:(Wannabe) Elitist nerds playing a glorified version of Battleship don't like you?
Unfortunate.
*sniffle* how cruel |
Jaron Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:05:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:(Wannabe) Elitist nerds playing a glorified version of Battleship don't like you?
Unfortunate.
It's not that we don't like you.
You're kinda cute, actually, we like you a lot.
You provide amusement and entertainment, and salty salty tears. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
252
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:33:00 -
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yeah but....
Entropia players look at eve players like "why are you wasting your time? the money you make in game isn't real. ours is... "
entropia is the top of the pyramid of gaming.
EvE players know that.
Peace
B |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:36:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:yeah but....
Entropia players look at eve players like "why are you wasting your time? the money you make in game isn't real. ours is... "
entropia is the top of the pyramid of gaming.
EvE players know that.
Peace
B
isn't that the game you have to harvest sweat? MMO buddies once were telling me about it. It's all about real estate. you sell for real cash. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
252
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:01:00 -
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it's the only game with a "withdraw funds" button that puts money BACK into your credit card.
10 bucks of game money = 1 dollar us.
nobdoy... nobody on the planet can beat that.
and the depth of that game makes EvE look like 514 in terms of compexity.
as soon as CCP puts a "1 million ISK = 1 dollar us" and a withdraw function, then you could claim EvE is on a whole other level.
til then, it can't beat the king.
even EvE players would whine about the grind in Entropia... "too hard"
Peace
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Bungholio Cornholio
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:01:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:EVE Community looks down on us
So................?
Who cares? |
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