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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.20 01:26:00 -
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Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.20 01:31:00 -
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Name and evidence? |
Grezkev
The Red Guards EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 01:34:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Name and evidence?
Have you not been reading the forums? |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
84
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Posted - 2013.05.20 01:35:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Name and evidence? Have you not been reading the forums? Is it his job to gather info that supports the OPs position?
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2163
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Posted - 2013.05.20 01:35:00 -
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I agree. Mr Spero is full of Shennanigans :)
Trollolol |
Appia Vibbia
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.05.20 01:38:00 -
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I don't think you should be allowed to post any exploits on the forums at all. gods it's like they want to proliferate them till they're fixed or something. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Name and evidence?
No name and shame here, just stating they should be removed. They are using knowledge gained by being on CPM to give their alliance a clear advantage over others. CCP can monitor and see whats going on, so theres no need for me to have proof. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
78
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:57:00 -
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What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
78
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:57:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Name and evidence? CCP can monitor and see whats going on, so theres no need for me to have proof.
Ahahahahaha, oh man, thank god. I thought this was a serious topic for a few seconds. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:58:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out.
Yeah, I don't seem to understand either. Now if only someone would kindly post a link to one of such threads... |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1423
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:59:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. There is a way to buy clone packs while under attack, you should not be able to do that, therefore it's a glitch. Or something like that...
Edit: Never mind. Yeah, refinement timer. |
SoTa ReGnUM PoP
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:59:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Yeah, I don't seem to understand either. Now if only someone would kindly post a link to one of such threads... We were asked not too so other corps wouldn't take advantage of 'em :( |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:00:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out.
Glitch involves ref timer on districts. Thats all I can say. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:00:00 -
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SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Yeah, I don't seem to understand either. Now if only someone would kindly post a link to one of such threads... We were asked not too so other corps wouldn't take advantage of 'em :(
Huh, so was Kane Spero one of the posters?
But seriously, monopoly is bad for the economy. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:02:00 -
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SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Yeah, I don't seem to understand either. Now if only someone would kindly post a link to one of such threads... We were asked not too so other corps wouldn't take advantage of 'em :(
Of course, Chronos doenst care if it happens, cause they are the ones doing it. Scrubs gotta win somehow instead of shooting face. |
SoTa ReGnUM PoP
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:03:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Yeah, I don't seem to understand either. Now if only someone would kindly post a link to one of such threads... We were asked not too so other corps wouldn't take advantage of 'em :( Huh, so was Kane Spero one of the posters? But seriously, monopoly is bad for the economy. If you really want to know why don't you just ask your top brass?
You guys are the ones monopolizing it btw - this sort of bug would never be one we'd use. It's dirty and under-handed. As if all the sabotage wasn't bad enough.
You CRONOS guys will take every bug and call it meta won't you? :P |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:03:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Glitch involves ref timer on districts. Thats all I can say.
Is it really exploitable? I've seen two cases personally where my corp attacked a district, lowered defending clone count to 0, only to find it sitting at 150 afterwards. One of the defending corps claimed that as a bug that was, apparently, outside of their control. |
SoTa ReGnUM PoP
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:06:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Glitch involves ref timer on districts. Thats all I can say. Is it really exploitable? I've seen two cases personally where my corp attacked a district, lowered defending clone count to 0, only to find it sitting at 150 afterwards. One of the defending corps claimed that as a bug that was, apparently, outside of their control. Got a link of that bug report? That shouldn't be something anyone would hide and should be reported on Feedback, right? |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:07:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Glitch involves ref timer on districts. Thats all I can say. Is it really exploitable? I've seen two cases personally where my corp attacked a district, lowered defending clone count to 0, only to find it sitting at 150 afterwards. One of the defending corps claimed that as a bug that was, apparently, outside of their control.
Yes. its an exploit. Corps doing it should be punished, and CPM members encouraging their corps to do it should get a boot from CPM and 3 month ban. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:07:00 -
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SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Yeah, I don't seem to understand either. Now if only someone would kindly post a link to one of such threads... We were asked not too so other corps wouldn't take advantage of 'em :( Huh, so was Kane Spero one of the posters? But seriously, monopoly is bad for the economy. If you really want to know why don't you just ask your top brass? You guys are the ones monopolizing it btw - this sort of bug would never be one we'd use. It's dirty and under-handed. As if all the sabotage wasn't bad enough. You CRONOS guys will take every bug and call it meta won't you? :P
Alright, my last post came in a bit too late.
But anyways, regardless of whether it is exploitable or not, we've also fallen victim to this bug and had to order additional attack orders, so there is no monopolization from our side.
But, still, I have my suspicions that it is merely a bug that can't be influenced by anybody. This will be my firm belief until I see the post with exact instruction on how to achieve these results. |
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Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
78
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:07:00 -
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Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:07:00 -
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SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Glitch involves ref timer on districts. Thats all I can say. Is it really exploitable? I've seen two cases personally where my corp attacked a district, lowered defending clone count to 0, only to find it sitting at 150 afterwards. One of the defending corps claimed that as a bug that was, apparently, outside of their control. Got a link of that bug report? That shouldn't be something anyone would hide and should be reported on Feedback, right?
Can't post exploits on the forums. They have to be petitioned. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1595
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:08:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Name and evidence? No name and shame here, just stating they should be removed. They are using knowledge gained by being on CPM to give their alliance a clear advantage over others. CCP can monitor and see whats going on, so theres no need for me to have proof. Wow, does it hurt being that dumb?
Grief Uni are pretty widely documented at being the first to have worked out how to do it.
At worst you could accuse certain CPM members of copycatting.
And since when is there some rule against naming and shaming? That's pretty much all GD is. |
Ninjanomyx
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
63
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:09:00 -
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Petition??? SIGNED!!!!!!! :P Scrubs can play SimCity w/ Cheat Codes on SimCity. I blame Jenza's Pants for Chronos' lack of Gunplay :P |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1039
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:09:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: But, still, I have my suspicions that it is merely a bug that can't be influenced by anybody. This will be my firm belief until I see the post with exact instruction on how to achieve these results.
Posting of exploits is against forum rules. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
78
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:09:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Name and evidence? No name and shame here, just stating they should be removed. They are using knowledge gained by being on CPM to give their alliance a clear advantage over others. CCP can monitor and see whats going on, so theres no need for me to have proof. Wow, does it hurt being that dumb? Grief Uni are pretty widely documented at being the first to have worked out how to do it. At worst you could accuse certain CPM members of copycatting. And since when is there some rule against naming and shaming? That's pretty much all GD is.
As I understand it, the issue at hand is a glitch regarding district reinforcement, not awoxing. Would have been nice to have that more clearly stated in the OP; the last topic petitioning for removal of CPM members was about awoxing, after all. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:10:00 -
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SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Glitch involves ref timer on districts. Thats all I can say. Is it really exploitable? I've seen two cases personally where my corp attacked a district, lowered defending clone count to 0, only to find it sitting at 150 afterwards. One of the defending corps claimed that as a bug that was, apparently, outside of their control. Got a link of that bug report? That shouldn't be something anyone would hide and should be reported on Feedback, right?
As a matter of fact, it wasn't hidden. Here you go. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1039
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:10:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Name and evidence? No name and shame here, just stating they should be removed. They are using knowledge gained by being on CPM to give their alliance a clear advantage over others. CCP can monitor and see whats going on, so theres no need for me to have proof. Wow, does it hurt being that dumb? Grief Uni are pretty widely documented at being the first to have worked out how to do it. At worst you could accuse certain CPM members of copycatting. And since when is there some rule against naming and shaming? That's pretty much all GD is.
You seem pretty quick to defend the still unnamed. Hmmm... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1423
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:10:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: This will be my firm belief until I see the post with exact instruction on how to achieve these results.
Ughh... you're not allowed to post how a glitch works You either report it, or keep it to yourself. |
SoTa ReGnUM PoP
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:10:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:SoTa ReGnUM PoP wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:What glitches are we talking about? All this commotion but we're all supposed to know everything already.
And if it's the awoxing going on, that's not a glitch, nor was it only known to CPMers. Anyone with half a brain figured that out. Glitch involves ref timer on districts. Thats all I can say. Is it really exploitable? I've seen two cases personally where my corp attacked a district, lowered defending clone count to 0, only to find it sitting at 150 afterwards. One of the defending corps claimed that as a bug that was, apparently, outside of their control. Got a link of that bug report? That shouldn't be something anyone would hide and should be reported on Feedback, right? Can't post exploits on the forums. They have to be petitioned. He's claiming it's a bug that gives the losing side that went to 0 clones 150 suddenly. That's not an exploit and should be reported if true.
It's also not what we're claiming CRONOS is doing. |
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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1039
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:11:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it.
General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting. |
Banned From Forums
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:11:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords.
The alliance still got whopped from what I heard, |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:13:00 -
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Oh well, I think I saw one of the threads mentioning that CPM members used their status to gain info on exploits and posted it on the forums. Maybe I misinterpreted or anything, so sorry for confusion. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1039
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:13:00 -
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Banned From Forums wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords. The alliance still got whopped from what I heard,
You're referring to their awoxing agaisnt hellstorm yes?
This is a separate issue where it is possible to add clones to a district after clone count hits 0, thus preventing change of ownership. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1515
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:16:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it.
This. CCP are on top of it so drop it until the matter is fully explored. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:17:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Banned From Forums wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords. The alliance still got whopped from what I heard, You're referring to their awoxing agaisnt hellstorm yes? This is a separate issue where it is possible to add clones to a district after clone count hits 0, thus preventing change of ownership.
Did you check out the link I posted earlier? Here is a follow-up quote from a member of one of the corps that shows that the bug doesn't seem to be an exploit:
powdemonic wrote:
nullabor im sorry but you are way too wrong it is IMPOSSIBLE!!! it really is i am in a small corp we held a single district for 3 days but lost all battle's (should of lost the district in the 2 battle we kept it due to a glitch. so ccp you f***ed up only the big corp's have districts most districts are owned by seriphim. this is bad it needs to be fixed ASAP. im sorry to be so blunt but so far there have been nothing but complete failure's on planetary conquest deseigning it was supposed to be fun howhever it is no where near enjoyable
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Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
78
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:17:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting.
In the interests of keeping slander to a minimum, I think it'd be more beneficial to the community to presume one innocent until proven guilty.
Like I said, if you have more evidence that points to this, I'm all ears. Can't run an article on something this potentially big with such shaky accusations. If it's really something you're not allowed to post on the forums, though, then we appear to be at an impasse. |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1516
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:19:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting. In the interests of keeping slander to a minimum, I think it'd be more beneficial to the community to presume one innocent until proven guilty. Like I said, if you have more evidence that points to this, I'm all ears. Can't run an article on something this potentially big with such shaky accusations. If it's really something you're not allowed to post on the forums, though, then we appear to be at an impasse.
And considering as said impasse was inevitable from the get-go, thread probably shouldn't have been posted.
I am disappoint. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
79
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:21:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting. In the interests of keeping slander to a minimum, I think it'd be more beneficial to the community to presume one innocent until proven guilty. Like I said, if you have more evidence that points to this, I'm all ears. Can't run an article on something this potentially big with such shaky accusations. If it's really something you're not allowed to post on the forums, though, then we appear to be at an impasse. And considering as said impasse was inevitable from the get-go, thread probably shouldn't have been posted. I am disappoint. Indeed. We'll either see:
a) Relevant CPM abusers removed with an official statement from CCP b) No CPM members removed - there is no exploit or abuse c) No CPM members removed - there was abuse but CCP doesn't care.
And there's really little you can do about any outcome. |
SoTa ReGnUM PoP
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:21:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting. In the interests of keeping slander to a minimum, I think it'd be more beneficial to the community to presume one innocent until proven guilty. Like I said, if you have more evidence that points to this, I'm all ears. Can't run an article on something this potentially big with such shaky accusations. If it's really something you're not allowed to post on the forums, though, then we appear to be at an impasse. And considering as said impasse was inevitable from the get-go, thread probably shouldn't have been posted. I am disappoint. The OP missed the memo we gave out not to mention this at all.
Oh well, it happens. Great opportunity to troll. |
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:23:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting. In the interests of keeping slander to a minimum, I think it'd be more beneficial to the community to presume one innocent until proven guilty. Like I said, if you have more evidence that points to this, I'm all ears. Can't run an article on something this potentially big with such shaky accusations. If it's really something you're not allowed to post on the forums, though, then we appear to be at an impasse.
I absolutely agree with your point of view. All in all, here's hoping that in a few hours we will get most, if not all, of the answers from CCP. |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:24:00 -
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Oh, there was a post about this yesterday but I assumed nothing of it... |
Nguruthos IV
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:26:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting. In the interests of keeping slander to a minimum, I think it'd be more beneficial to the community to presume one innocent until proven guilty. Like I said, if you have more evidence that points to this, I'm all ears. Can't run an article on something this potentially big with such shaky accusations. If it's really something you're not allowed to post on the forums, though, then we appear to be at an impasse. I absolutely agree with your point of view. All in all, here's hoping that in a few hours we will get most, if not all, of the answers from CCP.
Did you just use the word "hours" and CCP in the same sentence?
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
230
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:30:00 -
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Nguruthos IV wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting. In the interests of keeping slander to a minimum, I think it'd be more beneficial to the community to presume one innocent until proven guilty. Like I said, if you have more evidence that points to this, I'm all ears. Can't run an article on something this potentially big with such shaky accusations. If it's really something you're not allowed to post on the forums, though, then we appear to be at an impasse. I absolutely agree with your point of view. All in all, here's hoping that in a few hours we will get most, if not all, of the answers from CCP. Did you just use the word "hours" and CCP in the same sentence?
Why, yes I did. Considering the fact that they've been silent for the entire weekend... |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:31:00 -
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off with their heads! the infidels need to be punished. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:32:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: Why, yes I did. Considering the fact that they've been silent for the entire weekend...
The last thing that got them into the office on the weekend was the Orbital Spam Exploit. If there's really an issue, they might actually have been looking at it already.
But probably not; you'd still have to make them aware of it first. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:35:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: Why, yes I did. Considering the fact that they've been silent for the entire weekend...
The last thing that got them into the office on the weekend was the Orbital Spam Exploit. If there's really an issue, they might actually have been looking at it already. But probably not; you'd still have to make them aware of it first.
Aren't there enough threads on the issue already? I just don't feel like counting ATM, sorry. |
xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:36:00 -
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Ninjanomyx wrote:Petition??? SIGNED!!!!!!! :P Scrubs can play SimCity w/ Cheat Codes on SimCity. I blame Jenza's Pants for Chronos' lack of Gunplay :P
LOL |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.05.20 04:37:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: Why, yes I did. Considering the fact that they've been silent for the entire weekend...
The last thing that got them into the office on the weekend was the Orbital Spam Exploit. If there's really an issue, they might actually have been looking at it already. But probably not; you'd still have to make them aware of it first. Aren't there enough threads on the issue already? I just don't feel like counting ATM, sorry. off with your head! the infidels need to be punished |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:26:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:Well, if this is true, then like you said CCP knows and will take care of it. No need to cause more forum drama, especially since the last REMOVE CPM thread got locked. Unless, of course, you guys are willing to present all the relevant information yourselves and potentially provide what's necessary for proper reporting on it. General populace needs to know about the scum sitting on CPM who are exploiting. In the interests of keeping slander to a minimum, I think it'd be more beneficial to the community to presume one innocent until proven guilty. Like I said, if you have more evidence that points to this, I'm all ears. Can't run an article on something this potentially big with such shaky accusations. If it's really something you're not allowed to post on the forums, though, then we appear to be at an impasse. And considering as said impasse was inevitable from the get-go, thread probably shouldn't have been posted. I am disappoint.
Troll failed. |
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:30:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: Why, yes I did. Considering the fact that they've been silent for the entire weekend...
The last thing that got them into the office on the weekend was the Orbital Spam Exploit. If there's really an issue, they might actually have been looking at it already. But probably not; you'd still have to make them aware of it first.
Like I said they used knowledge gained from being on CPM to exploit, so CCP already knows about it. They told everyone to be quiet about it and not use it, but here we are.
Lose a district? That's ok just exploit it to get another round. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:33:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:They told everyone to be quiet about it
Fine job you did there. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:34:00 -
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I'll just leave this here again.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Did you check out the link I posted earlier? Here is a follow-up quote from a member of one of the corps that shows that the bug doesn't seem to be an exploit: powdemonic wrote:
nullabor im sorry but you are way too wrong it is IMPOSSIBLE!!! it really is i am in a small corp we held a single district for 3 days but lost all battle's (should of lost the district in the 2 battle we kept it due to a glitch. so ccp you f***ed up only the big corp's have districts most districts are owned by seriphim. this is bad it needs to be fixed ASAP. im sorry to be so blunt but so far there have been nothing but complete failure's on planetary conquest deseigning it was supposed to be fun howhever it is no where near enjoyable
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:37:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords. Everyone was aware of this mechanic, not just CPM.
If I remember correctly, Imperfect wins first Dust Tournament mainly due to glitch with dmg-stacking-penalties on Railgun Sagaris, they keep this information for themselves until the last moment and revealed it to community after Tournament. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:38:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:They told everyone to be quiet about it Fine job you did there.
Referring to those on CPM who were in position to abuse it. Are you thick? |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:44:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords. Everyone was aware of this mechanic, not just CPM. If I remember correctly, Imperfect wins first Dust Tournament mainly due to glitch with dmg-stacking-penalties on Railgun Sagaris, they keep this information for themselves until the last moment and revealed it to community after Tournament.
Imps don't use glitches or exploits to win scrublet. We aint Betamax. |
Succendo
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:50:00 -
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No, instead you come to the forums and whine and slander without any evidence.
I would say I expected better of an Imperfects member, but I'd be lying. |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 10:59:00 -
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Hard evidence or Lies. End of. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:02:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords. Everyone was aware of this mechanic, not just CPM. If I remember correctly, Imperfect wins first Dust Tournament mainly due to glitch with dmg-stacking-penalties on Railgun Sagaris, they keep this information for themselves until the last moment and revealed it to community after Tournament. Imps don't use glitches or exploits to win scrublet. We aint Betamax. When you were in BetaMax. I remember you as a sulky little girls.. always as many tissue was going to wipe your tears ah.. not many has change. |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:06:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords. Everyone was aware of this mechanic, not just CPM. If I remember correctly, Imperfect wins first Dust Tournament mainly due to glitch with dmg-stacking-penalties on Railgun Sagaris, they keep this information for themselves until the last moment and revealed it to community after Tournament. Imps don't use glitches or exploits to win scrublet. We aint Betamax. When you were in BetaMax. I remember you as a sulky little girls.. always as many tissue was going to wipe your tears ah.. not many has change. Those were the days... |
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:38:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Certain CPM members are using their position of power to cheat at PC. Please boot these scrublords. Everyone was aware of this mechanic, not just CPM. If I remember correctly, Imperfect wins first Dust Tournament mainly due to glitch with dmg-stacking-penalties on Railgun Sagaris, they keep this information for themselves until the last moment and revealed it to community after Tournament. Imps don't use glitches or exploits to win scrublet. We aint Betamax. When you were in BetaMax. I remember you as a sulky little girls.. always as many tissue was going to wipe your tears ah.. not many has change.
Never was in Betamax...soooo... yea |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:39:00 -
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Succendo wrote:No, instead you come to the forums and whine and slander without any evidence.
I would say I expected better of an Imperfects member, but I'd be lying.
LOLOLOLOL. Weakest of trolls. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:40:00 -
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Finn Kempers wrote:Hard evidence or Lies. End of.
How is it a district can get pushed to 0 clones and then magically have 150. Something is fishy, and CCP and CPM members know about it. Unfortunately some chose to use it. |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:43:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Hard evidence or Lies. End of. How is it a district can get pushed to 0 clones and then magically have 150. Something is fishy, and CCP and CPM members know about it. Unfortunately some chose to use it.
Don't you guys have a CPM? Get the information out of him put it up on blast on BUGS section and get it fixed..... |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:48:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Hard evidence or Lies. End of. How is it a district can get pushed to 0 clones and then magically have 150. Something is fishy, and CCP and CPM members know about it. Unfortunately some chose to use it. Don't you guys have a CPM? Get the information out of him put it up on blast on BUGS section and get it fixed.....
Thats not the point. If someone is using their position on CPM to get knowledge about exploits and then using said exploits to cheat, they should be removed. The exploit should be fixed, and Im sure itll be soon. But in the mean time, those encouraging the use of exploits should be dealt with |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:50:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Hard evidence or Lies. End of. How is it a district can get pushed to 0 clones and then magically have 150. Something is fishy, and CCP and CPM members know about it. Unfortunately some chose to use it. Don't you guys have a CPM? Get the information out of him put it up on blast on BUGS section and get it fixed..... Thats not the point. If someone is using their position on CPM to get knowledge about exploits and then using said exploits to cheat, they should be removed. The exploit should be fixed, and Im sure itll be soon. But in the mean time, those encouraging the use of exploits should be dealt with
I agree. CPM should be the face of the game. The glory boys who bathed in creamy showers from CCP to get their special title. You would think they wouldn't be ner.....never mind..... |
jenza aranda
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:59:00 -
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Just stating that i never used the exploit, when the exploit was reported to me i instantly forwarded it to CCP and told the person informing me to not use it and not to tell anyone else about it so not to shine a light on it. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:03:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Just stating that i never used the exploit, when the exploit was reported to me i instantly forwarded it to CCP and told the person informing me to not use it and not to tell anyone else about it so not to shine a light on it.
Well there ya have it, Jenza is not exploiting. |
Caeli SineDeo
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:05:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Just stating that i never used the exploit, when the exploit was reported to me i instantly forwarded it to CCP and told the person informing me to not use it and not to tell anyone else about it so not to shine a light on it.
Jenza Never using the Exploit!!! |
Tiel Syysch
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814
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:06:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:If I remember correctly, Imperfect wins first Dust Tournament mainly due to glitch with dmg-stacking-penalties on Railgun Sagaris. They keep this information for themselves until the last moment and revealed it to community after Tournament.
Might want to get your memory checked. Stacking penalties applied properly, base value was just higher than what item info said, and the tournament was all about small missiles, a problematic item we brought to devs' attention before that build made them even more ridiculous. |
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:07:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Finn Kempers wrote:Hard evidence or Lies. End of. How is it a district can get pushed to 0 clones and then magically have 150. Something is fishy, and CCP and CPM members know about it. Unfortunately some chose to use it.
Why are you so fixed on the notion that it's an exploit, not a bug?
Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Did you check out the link I posted earlier? Here is a follow-up quote from a member of one of the corps that shows that the bug doesn't seem to be an exploit: powdemonic wrote:
nullabor im sorry but you are way too wrong it is IMPOSSIBLE!!! it really is i am in a small corp we held a single district for 3 days but lost all battle's (should of lost the district in the 2 battle we kept it due to a glitch. so ccp you f***ed up only the big corp's have districts most districts are owned by seriphim. this is bad it needs to be fixed ASAP. im sorry to be so blunt but so far there have been nothing but complete failure's on planetary conquest deseigning it was supposed to be fun howhever it is no where near enjoyable
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
237
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Posted - 2013.05.21 00:48:00 -
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HA!
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Mysterious Extra Clones We are also deep in investigating reports of districts coming out of lock down and generating more clones than they should, causing issues for corporations trying to attack them. Our early analysis suggests this is not the result of players exploiting some loophole but just the system behaving incorrectly. This is my top priority at the moment to track down and fix for hopefully Wednesday or if not, shortly after.
Good to see this bug is taken a look at. |
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