DUST Search - Hellstorm Press Release (Official)

NAV HIV wrote:

DJINN Kujo wrote:

To Dust Community,

I am here to inform the Dust Community that Hellstorm has had to take some measures that we have promised from day one we would never do. The actions of CRONOS has affected this reasoning that we are enveloping. Seeing how the CRONOS alliance is so hyped to send players into corporations to affect their results within Planetary Conquest by team killing corporation members.

AWOXING

As a result of these actions on the Dust Community, Hellstorm has decided to make another corporation under the name of "Purgatorium of the Damned." We had to make this corporation to pull every player from Hellstorm into this new corp. Players remaining in Hellstorm are a select amount of individuals who will continue to represent Hellstorm for the time being. We have to take this route to ensure the security of Hellstorm in Planetary Conquest. We hope this opens up the Dust Community ideologies of what exactly is going on whether it's "meta-game" or "New Eden."

This particular idea isn't something that can be overseen. The longevity of these actions will affect the influx of newer players; corporations will now demonstrate recruiting with measures of trust. New 'characters' on the game will be questioned and over looked, whether the validity of the player is held true or not. In the long run, this will kill Dust. Again, as a security measure we have made another corporation to sustain Hellstorm from these actions.

All future prospective applicants will be applying to this new corp to secure the assets of Hellstorm. We thank you for you time, and again hope this shows the depth of these actions upon New Eden.

I will be open for questions and comments. Thanks again fellow Dust mercs.

DjINN Kujo
Hellstorm: Dust 514 Operations

Thank you for the post Kujo. Some people do have a hard time playing or fighting straight.

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DJINN Kujo Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 109	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:45:00 - [1] - Quote To Dust Community, I am here to inform the Dust Community that Hellstorm has had to take some measures that we have promised from day one we would never do. The actions of CRONOS has affected this reasoning that we are enveloping. Seeing how the CRONOS alliance is so hyped to send players into corporations to affect their results within Planetary Conquest by team killing corporation members. AWOXING As a result of these actions on the Dust Community, Hellstorm has decided to make another corporation under the name of "Purgatorium of the Damned." We had to make this corporation to pull every player from Hellstorm into this new corp. Players remaining in Hellstorm are a select amount of individuals who will continue to represent Hellstorm for the time being. We have to take this route to ensure the security of Hellstorm in Planetary Conquest. We hope this opens up the Dust Community ideologies of what exactly is going on whether it's "meta-game" or "New Eden." This particular idea isn't something that can be overseen. The longevity of these actions will affect the influx of newer players; corporations will now demonstrate recruiting with measures of trust. New 'characters' on the game will be questioned and over looked, whether the validity of the player is held true or not. In the long run, this will kill Dust. Again, as a security measure we have made another corporation to sustain Hellstorm from these actions. All future prospective applicants will be applying to this new corp to secure the assets of Hellstorm. We thank you for you time, and again hope this shows the depth of these actions upon New Eden. I will be open for questions and comments. Thanks again fellow Dust mercs. DjINN Kujo Hellstorm: Dust 514 Operations
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1215	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:47:00 - [2] - Quote Look at what a good job CRONOS did. They had fun, and they helped another corporation secure their corporation. Here at CRONOS, we believe helping is the key to happiness.
Lilah Silverstone The Arrow Project 26	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:50:00 - [3] - Quote Eve has had corps that have even more demanding application programs forever so I think dust will be aight.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1502	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:50:00 - [4] - Quote DJINN Kujo wrote: We hope this opens up the Dust Community ideologies of what exactly is going on whether it's "meta-game" or "New Eden." What? DJINN Kujo wrote: This particular idea isn't something that can be overseen. The longevity of these actions will affect the influx of newer players; corporations will now demonstrate recruiting with measures of trust. No, seriously, what? DJINN Kujo wrote: New 'characters' on the game will be questioned and over looked, whether the validity of the player is held true or not. I... think you are misusing words. Lots of... words. No, seriously. What?
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 439	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:52:00 - [5] - Quote Should've been HellSwarm.
DJINN Marauder Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 610	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:53:00 - [6] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Should've been HellSwarm.
DJINN Kujo Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 112	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:55:00 - [7] - Quote It's a simple use of words, sorry for any confusion. Maybe it sounded good in my head? If the problem persists, I will edit the post. Thank you for your concern.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1502	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:56:00 - [8] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Should've been HellSwarm. Missed opportunity
DJINN Rampage BetaMax. CRONOS. 29	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:57:00 - [9] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Should've been HellSwarm. too bad i own hellswarm auxilaries
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1502	Posted - 2013.05.20 00:57:00 - [10] - Quote DJINN Kujo wrote: It's a simple use of words, sorry for any confusion. Maybe it sounded good in my head? If the problem persists, I will edit the post. Thank you for your concern. I get the gist of it but the sentences themselves don't actually say what I think you're trying to say.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4435	Posted - 2013.05.20 01:00:00 - [11] - Quote http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625
DJINN Kujo Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 117	Posted - 2013.05.20 01:15:00 - [12] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: DJINN Kujo wrote: It's a simple use of words, sorry for any confusion. Maybe it sounded good in my head? If the problem persists, I will edit the post. Thank you for your concern. I get the gist of it but the sentences themselves don't actually say what I think you're trying to say. Roger that, again I appreciate the concern. And as stated, if it becomes a problem to the rest of the community I will re-state anything that may display confusion.
Immovable 0bject DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement 5	Posted - 2013.05.20 01:24:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625 Ha I remember the first time I saw this. Ah memories.....
Grezkev The Red Guards EoN. 274	Posted - 2013.05.20 03:30:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625 The point of satire is to mock a seemingly obvious problem, FYI. Dictionary --> Satire What's the requirement to be a CPM? A G.E.D.?
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet 78	Posted - 2013.05.20 03:41:00 - [15] - Quote So hold on. A DUST corporation is realizing that hey, maybe corporate security is important? They're making a holding corporation with only trusted players in it? Damn, it almost seems like common sense is returning. Too bad many players still think they shouldn't have to be responsible and want CCP to do it for them. Ah well, baby steps.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2013.05.20 03:53:00 - [16] - Quote Grezkev wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625 The point of satire is to mock a seemingly obvious problem, FYI. Dictionary --> Satire What's the requirement to be a CPM? A G.E.D.? Couldn't just laugh at it and move on, could you?
Faquira Bleuetta Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2013.05.20 09:07:00 - [17] - Quote i send a apply to Purgatorium of the Damned but im still get ignored.....
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 78	Posted - 2013.05.20 09:21:00 - [18] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: So hold on. A DUST corporation is realizing that hey, maybe corporate security is important? They're making a holding corporation with only trusted players in it? Meaningless bureaucracy for a easy exploit. This is the Eve Online universe after all. No need for use pretty folk to worry ourselves. Sometimes they do stupid things but they're not dumb. CCP will get it right, eventually.
Imp Smash On The Brink CRONOS. 96	Posted - 2013.05.20 09:28:00 - [19] - Quote Op I think ya might be taking it a bit far...
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 332	Posted - 2013.05.20 09:54:00 - [20] - Quote I don't think you get it. They are relegating all but their most trusted members to a secondary corp because of security issues. This WILL kill dust, because fps gamers think they are all hot **** and deserve to be recognized as the best, from day 1. Dust will be like eve, 10k real players and 40k alts.

The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 260	Posted - 2013.05.20 10:14:00 - [21] - Quote Grezkev wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625 The point of satire is to mock a seemingly obvious problem, FYI. Dictionary --> Satire What's the requirement to be a CPM? A G.E.D.? Wouldn't the comic be sardonic because we are laughing at the actual situation not a screw up. With satire we make fun of the screw up. The comic points out they way it actually is in EVE not how the system is broken.
Imp Smash On The Brink CRONOS. 96	Posted - 2013.05.20 10:25:00 - [22] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Grezkev wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625 The point of satire is to mock a seemingly obvious problem, FYI. Dictionary --> Satire What's the requirement to be a CPM? A G.E.D.? Wouldn't the comic be sardonic because we are laughing at the actual situation not a screw up. With satire we make fun of the screw up. The comic points out they way it actually is in EVE not how the system is broken. What? Is that true then? Dump you in a tub of butter for 3 days in the dark? . <.< >.> Perverts ^.^
steadyhand amarr BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 559	Posted - 2013.05.20 10:26:00 - [23] - Quote Finally and fps people are going to love this. Yes it will be a shock but they will finally have q sense of belonging to somthing and get that extra somthing out the game. People should really study more sociology
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 551	Posted - 2013.05.20 10:34:00 - [24] - Quote That sucks Kujo BetaMax are worms If your looking for a Heavy for your corp matches here is my card for mercenary work https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=79351&find=unread ill do 1 or 2 for free as I would like nothing better then smashing Betamax's face in on this I'm taking the regular salvage and clone spoils though, Got bills to pay
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. CRONOS. 69	Posted - 2013.05.20 10:52:00 - [25] - Quote OP I support this action. Great idea!
Finn Kempers BetaMax. CRONOS. 222	Posted - 2013.05.20 10:54:00 - [26] - Quote Oh look a corp has the sense to make a proper recruitment option. Sorry we got there before you with recruitment corps
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2013.05.20 10:55:00 - [27] - Quote Looks like PC is working as intended.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 261	Posted - 2013.05.20 12:41:00 - [28] - Quote Indeed
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 305	Posted - 2013.05.20 12:50:00 - [29] - Quote Sontie wrote: I don't think you get it. They are relegating all but their most trusted members to a secondary corp because of security issues. This WILL kill dust, because fps gamers think they are all hot **** and deserve to be recognized as the best, from day 1. Dust will be like eve, 10k real players and 40k alts. Ahahaha. I'm starting to think the purpose of Dust is to bruise inflated egos. If you are really concerned then pick a decent name for your holding corporation... XYZ Corp Batallion A to avoid slighting all the cryhards.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 945	Posted - 2013.05.20 12:51:00 - [30] - Quote Sontie wrote: I don't think you get it. They are relegating all but their most trusted members to a secondary corp because of security issues. This WILL kill dust, because fps gamers think they are all hot **** and deserve to be recognized as the best, from day 1. Dust will be like eve, 10k real players and 40k alts. Um... No. What this will do is break up would-be kaijus that can't cut the management mustard. That means more corps fighting (rather than less), which is a good thing. Heck, if all of the kaijus break up into baby monsters, maybe PC in Molden Heath won't turn into a NAP fest.

NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 219	Posted - 2013.05.20 13:28:00 - [31] - Quote DJINN Kujo wrote: To Dust Community, I am here to inform the Dust Community that Hellstorm has had to take some measures that we have promised from day one we would never do. The actions of CRONOS has affected this reasoning that we are enveloping. Seeing how the CRONOS alliance is so hyped to send players into corporations to affect their results within Planetary Conquest by team killing corporation members. AWOXING As a result of these actions on the Dust Community, Hellstorm has decided to make another corporation under the name of "Purgatorium of the Damned." We had to make this corporation to pull every player from Hellstorm into this new corp. Players remaining in Hellstorm are a select amount of individuals who will continue to represent Hellstorm for the time being. We have to take this route to ensure the security of Hellstorm in Planetary Conquest. We hope this opens up the Dust Community ideologies of what exactly is going on whether it's "meta-game" or "New Eden." This particular idea isn't something that can be overseen. The longevity of these actions will affect the influx of newer players; corporations will now demonstrate recruiting with measures of trust. New 'characters' on the game will be questioned and over looked, whether the validity of the player is held true or not. In the long run, this will kill Dust. Again, as a security measure we have made another corporation to sustain Hellstorm from these actions. All future prospective applicants will be applying to this new corp to secure the assets of Hellstorm. We thank you for you time, and again hope this shows the depth of these actions upon New Eden. I will be open for questions and comments. Thanks again fellow Dust mercs. DjINN Kujo Hellstorm: Dust 514 Operations Thank you for the post Kujo. Some people do have a hard time playing or fighting straight.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 993	Posted - 2013.05.20 13:48:00 - [32] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625 Diffrence being in EVE (as opposed to Dust) there are actual player tools for both screening/application and internal access control once accepted. With those in place (as they are in EVE) situations like this become a part of the game and the responsibility for the Corp to secure their own assets. Lacking those tools as is the current state within D514 it's just a broken mechanic PR mess waiting to happen and denigrate the sandbox. If any of my fellow EVE players believe this reasoning to be in error I present to you a simple test to prove me wrong. Manage your EVE Corp/Alliance without the use of the aforementioned in game tools. Step 1 ~ Remove an and all use of API in any form. Step 2 ~ Cease to check employment histories any further back than a couple of months Step 3 ~ Set all access to public and give all Corp and Alliance members roles that with only two limitations, first they cannot use the Corp wallet and second they cannot accept applications. Step 4 ~ Keep a stash of PLEX on hand so that anyone from anywhere can create a new (non-trial) account without the investment of money, and essentially do so without limit. With these steps in place please move to Null, or at least Low and start the clock on your Alliance. If it lasts the year under these conditions I will applaud your abilities and reconsider my stance (oh but having a 2 man Corp or 12 man Alliance who's not recruiting at all is a complete cop out). For those choosing to participate please contact me in game with full API information for your Toons, Corps, and Alliance so that I am able to verify the required steps have actually been taken and maintained. If I get any takers I will be dumbfounded ~Cross
DJINN Jecture Purgatorium of the Damned 7	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:15:00 - [33] - Quote That's a good point Cross, I've been wondering what it would take for the devs to finally add roles and api availability to D514 and will wait a bit longer I guess. Hopefully this will push them in the right direction sooner rather than later.
Finn Kempers BetaMax. CRONOS. 226	Posted - 2013.05.20 16:23:00 - [34] - Quote Last time I checked New Eden and 'fair play' or whatever concept is being discussed here don't exist in the same Dimension. However CREST implementation should allow the points Cross mentions.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 934	Posted - 2013.05.23 18:27:00 - [35] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Should've been HellSwarm. too bad i own hellswarm auxilaries Boy you hand over command of it now! You rogue djinn!!
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 934	Posted - 2013.05.23 18:28:00 - [36] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Should've been HellSwarm. too bad i own hellswarm auxilaries
Z00KU BetaMax. CRONOS. 4	Posted - 2013.05.23 18:35:00 - [37] - Quote In New Eden everything goes, Their is no "fair" in RL and their is no "fair" in new eden life NAV HIV wrote: DJINN Kujo wrote: To Dust Community, I am here to inform the Dust Community that Hellstorm has had to take some measures that we have promised from day one we would never do. The actions of CRONOS has affected this reasoning that we are enveloping. Seeing how the CRONOS alliance is so hyped to send players into corporations to affect their results within Planetary Conquest by team killing corporation members. AWOXING As a result of these actions on the Dust Community, Hellstorm has decided to make another corporation under the name of "Purgatorium of the Damned." We had to make this corporation to pull every player from Hellstorm into this new corp. Players remaining in Hellstorm are a select amount of individuals who will continue to represent Hellstorm for the time being. We have to take this route to ensure the security of Hellstorm in Planetary Conquest. We hope this opens up the Dust Community ideologies of what exactly is going on whether it's "meta-game" or "New Eden." This particular idea isn't something that can be overseen. The longevity of these actions will affect the influx of newer players; corporations will now demonstrate recruiting with measures of trust. New 'characters' on the game will be questioned and over looked, whether the validity of the player is held true or not. In the long run, this will kill Dust. Again, as a security measure we have made another corporation to sustain Hellstorm from these actions. All future prospective applicants will be applying to this new corp to secure the assets of Hellstorm. We thank you for you time, and again hope this shows the depth of these actions upon New Eden. I will be open for questions and comments. Thanks again fellow Dust mercs. DjINN Kujo Hellstorm: Dust 514 Operations Thank you for the post Kujo. Some people do have a hard time playing or fighting straight.
Klivve Cussler S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement 136	Posted - 2013.05.23 18:39:00 - [38] - Quote This is a smart move. Similar to what was done in Eve before the alliance functionality was mature. And CCP is sensitive to the FPS community. If this was really like Eve a teammate could team kill a tank pilot and then recall his HAV to his own personal inventory.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 934	Posted - 2013.05.23 18:41:00 - [39] - Quote I wonder if there is no fair in real life and video games, but there is Jenzfailing in videogames.... Is there Jenzfailing in real life?


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