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DDDerfinatoRRR
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:48:00 -
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CPM = players union. I'd rather be represented than not. having a few voices speak for the many > many voices speaking for many. this is what saves the game from anarchy and chaos. |
EXASTRA INVICTAS
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:59:00 -
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Trying to call the CPM (which is DUST's equivalent of EVE's CSM) irrelevant or a bad idea is blind ignorance. You are overestimating their "control" over game development and underestimating their value in forwarding CCP our thoughts, ideas, concerns, and praises.
This CPM was chosen by CCP, so it's not quite what it should be, yet. But come time we will be electing CPM members into the council. At that point it's up to us, the community, to not only run for CPM on issues we feel strongly about, but to vote for those who are in alignment with our thoughts, ideas, concerns, and praises. The CPM is NOT a bad thing that is going to ruin the game. It's going to be one of those silent things that saves it. And nerfs titans into the ground. Because Mittani. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:17:00 -
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I just hope we can get the message to the community that this is a lot of work without pay and no fun and games about it so that 'l33t' players that think they can balance the game out are going to find out that is like the least worrisome thing we do.
I do not want to see CSM 1 full of people that want to quit because it hurts their game time. |
EXASTRA INVICTAS
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I just hope we can get the message to the community that this is a lot of work without pay and no fun and games about it so that 'l33t' players that think they can balance the game out are going to find out that is like the least worrisome thing we do.
I do not want to see CSM 1 full of people that want to quit because it hurts their game time.
I think a good portion of the community understands CPM and its role based on the majority of replies in this thread. CPM0 and CPM1 are going to be really crucial and everyone is counting on you guys. No pressure. |
Vethosis
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.01 18:21:00 -
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Also Laurent and Jenza are in the same alliance ( cronos ) and agree on literally everything together because of this. I would know because I was in betamax. and heard those 2 talking. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1715
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Posted - 2013.06.01 18:47:00 -
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Vethosis wrote:Also Laurent and Jenza are in the same alliance ( cronos ) and agree on literally everything together because of this. I would know because I was in betamax. and heard those 2 talking.
actually this is not true at all while in the council matters, believe it or not but we have our own opinions that can ssometimes agree and disagree.
Dont assume to think you have any idea what is spoken about in the private CPM area. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1972
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Posted - 2013.06.01 19:56:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Choose Your Fighter wrote:To create a role within a community like this, that has influence over the flow and evolution of the game is stupid and just show's a lack of regard for the player base. CCP tells you they do this because they care, but in actual fact, they do this so they dont have to pay someone to do it.
The bottom line is, they should be a part of the community, interacting with all aspects of the world they have created, not just posting generic comments to 1 post out of 100.
The fact that 2 CPM's are members of the same corp speaks leaps and bounds. The role should be filled by an impartial body,
Get rid of DEV's and CPM tags on the forums and instead, everyone becomes an equal. If CCP dosnt know the desires of their playerbase, and have to elect meaningless roles to do their work for them their game will fail. Well... if it where not for people like myself you wouldn't be in a corp for up until... 5 days ago.Some people are just more equal than others. We're not machines. Lets get it right The CPM has stopped corps recruiting because they have taken advantage of broken game mechanics in PC for ther own short term gain for themselves, for the corp they rep and also for the alliance that they are in So new player bob doesnt have a chance in hell of geting in a corp which is looking or doing PC and its the same for all new players So yea you are currently causing more harm to the game to feed your ego and wallets
Lets get it right
Awoxing would have happened anyway, leading to corps being more observant of security measures and start getting a healthy dose of paranoia. The fact that one of the corps leading the charge happened to have a CPM member at the helm is irrelevant, the CPM are players, and should be expected to act ingame like players, meaning they will do everything in their power to tip the scales in their favor. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1716
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Posted - 2013.06.01 20:40:00 -
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gbghg wrote:
Lets get it right
Awoxing would have happened anyway, leading to corps being more observant of security measures and start getting a healthy dose of paranoia. The fact that one of the corps leading the charge happened to have a CPM member at the helm is irrelevant, the CPM are players, and should be expected to act ingame like players, meaning they will do everything in their power to tip the scales in their favor.
thanks for having some ounce of sense, gbghg.
Honestly i was considering of a bit of awoxing in the previous build with a certain corp match but there would have been little point and little impact.
to be clear, I will never use my position as CPM for the gain of myself my corp or alliance. Not to say one of my coligues hasnt tried |
mrunknown2u2
Ill Omens
EoN.
45
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Posted - 2013.06.01 21:34:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:gbghg wrote:
Lets get it right
Awoxing would have happened anyway, leading to corps being more observant of security measures and start getting a healthy dose of paranoia. The fact that one of the corps leading the charge happened to have a CPM member at the helm is irrelevant, the CPM are players, and should be expected to act ingame like players, meaning they will do everything in their power to tip the scales in their favor.
thanks for having some ounce of sense, gbghg. Honestly i was considering of a bit of awoxing in the previous build with a certain corp match but there would have been little point and little impact. to be clear, I will never use my position as CPM for the gain of myself my corp or alliance. Not to say one of my coligues hasnt tried
too bad failmax sucks at every thing i will see you wiped on the pc map before next weekend |
4447
Not Guilty
EoN.
750
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Posted - 2013.06.12 01:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Choose Your Fighter wrote:To create a role within a community like this, that has influence over the flow and evolution of the game is stupid and just show's a lack of regard for the player base. CCP tells you they do this because they care, but in actual fact, they do this so they dont have to pay someone to do it.
The bottom line is, they should be a part of the community, interacting with all aspects of the world they have created, not just posting generic comments to 1 post out of 100.
The fact that 2 CPM's are members of the same corp speaks leaps and bounds. The role should be filled by an impartial body,
Get rid of DEV's and CPM tags on the forums and instead, everyone becomes an equal. If CCP dosnt know the desires of their playerbase, and have to elect meaningless roles to do their work for them their game will fail. Well... if it where not for people like myself you wouldn't be in a corp for up until... 5 days ago. Some people are just more equal than others. We're not machines.
good job mate +1
I really don't know what nova knife does in the CPM. if it wasn't for wolf i don't know where the CPM would be... |
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4447
Not Guilty
EoN.
750
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Posted - 2013.06.12 01:42:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:gbghg wrote:
Lets get it right
Awoxing would have happened anyway, leading to corps being more observant of security measures and start getting a healthy dose of paranoia. The fact that one of the corps leading the charge happened to have a CPM member at the helm is irrelevant, the CPM are players, and should be expected to act ingame like players, meaning they will do everything in their power to tip the scales in their favor.
thanks for having some ounce of sense, gbghg. Honestly i was considering of a bit of awoxing in the previous build with a certain corp match but there would have been little point and little impact. to be clear, I will never use my position as CPM for the gain of myself my corp or alliance.
Jenza, i'm giving free lesson on how to play Dust 514 if you want them?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1542
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:25:00 -
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Choose Your Fighter wrote:
The fact that 2 CPM's are members of the same corp speaks leaps and bounds. The role should be filled by an impartial body,
I thought you were going to mention the fact that 2 CPMs are only ever seen with occasional vague worthless posts on only this forum. |
Travis Snyders
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.06.18 01:34:00 -
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New Players Please Watch |
4447
Not Guilty
EoN.
750
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:21:00 -
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Help me understand your post...
I my be a troll on these forums, but i don't get this ps2 thing?
Have you seen the cost of the weapons on ps2? |
Courbyn Johnson
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:36:00 -
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I support the CSM/CPM system (Contemplated running for CSM about a year ago). Makes sure the base is heard loud and clear. Also, let's see how CCP handles elections when that time of year comes back around in a few months. |
Genome Kipnis
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:06:00 -
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Cpm is a good idea |
Eddie Rio
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
33
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:39:00 -
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this was a fascinating read,
firstly,, CPM is a great idea!
A group of dedicated players of the game, voted for by the players of the game to put forward issues to the developers of the game... what's not to like about that?
highs and lows will happen. we have seen all sorts of drama with the CSM of eve and long should it prevail!
throughout it all I like to think its a good thing, I am looking forward to the first 'elections', going to be great to see people stand up and state their case to win my vote :)
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Gorgoth24Reborn
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:07:00 -
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This was a very informative read. I'm surprised at all the backlash at the CPM, as the idea has proven to be incredibly useful in EVE.
This post seemed to be the most incredulous to me
Fivetimes Infinity wrote:
You really think CCP is going to entrust the future of its multi-million dollar project to a bunch of weirdos from the Internet?
The answer is, overwhelmingly, YES. CCP built EVE on the basis of player-dev interaction, and the result has been the longest running continually more successful MMO in existence. They realized long ago that they are too small and too out-spent by the big shots to compete without letting the community carry some of the workload. The result is a strong interaction between the hive mind of internet forums, the common-sense perspective of the CPM in sorting the constructive from the troll, and the valuable bouncing of ideas to and from the devs.
The CPM will most likely make or break this game given its position in the player feedback chain. Even if you don't like the idea of them, at least be constructive. |
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