I haven't been playing for long,

Exactly. Most of the noob heavy users don't have a clue at the complete lack of potential their chosen class has VS the assault or scout classes because your handicap forces you to adapt a playstyle that is generally successful anyway - corner camping and ambushing.

Some of us have been here bashing our head against a wall for over a year about this.
The proto HMG used to do 30 DMG per shot with the heavy suit turning speed equal to all other suits - and even then it still wasn't the insta win button that everyone thinks it was or fears will emerge.

This.

I have a heavy with 1.3 million SP.

I get more kills with it than my assault with 4.3 million SP.

Perhaps the OP is trying to run a heavy as an assault? DERP

And for the poster that said scouts can do the heavies job better.. you gotta be kidding me right?

No.

Even CCP said that Heavy's were meant to be point defense guys.

Please - accept the guy's helpful advice

Oh no, your feelings are hurt. Would you like a lolly?

If the heavy doesn't suit your playstyle, then don't play it. Simple. The heavy is, and has been, intended for point defense and AV since open beta. Suck it up, get used to it.

Anyone who thinks that heavies are outdated and in effective can come and see me on the battlefield. yes it will be a bloodbath and yes you will kill me a few times but i will earn the respect that heavies deserve. And many players in top corps know that my heavy and my well trained heavy brothers will put down some serious firepower like we are meant to. I will say though that i am sad to see so many have left the class for the easy way out of assault.

Yes, you can attempt to use it any way you please. Though it will have a place in which it shines. For the heavy that is a defensive position where the advantages of the weapon can be brought to bear.

Yet people are doing what you claim is impossible and using them successfully. How do you account for that? A random collection of accidents?

Again, I'm not *forcing* the heavy into a role. That IS it's role. I also never said that the heavy was BEST at any particular role, but that the role it's best at is defense, be it AP or AV defense. There's a difference. It's like saying option A is best across the board, scoring 90% in categories 1, 2 and 3, but option B scores best in category 3, with 89%, whereas it scores 50% in the other two.

If you want to play heavy, then do so, but don't force it into a role it's not suited to e.g. assault.

At the current time, assaults can take the place of the heavy in a defensive role, but that's simply because of the TAR, not because of any fault on the HMG's part.



Read above.

The heavy doesn't have much spread as is. The accuracy has always been good, at least I thought so. Some might even complain that the reduced spread is a negative as well. I personally never noticed an issue with too much bullet spread but I'm only one person. Perhaps others did.

1. heavies should have thier run speed increased by about 15% to actually be able to participate in the game and support their team.

2. heavies should have 500shield and 500 armor

3. heavies armor and shields should by passively resistant by 30% (basic. it should be given) to small arms and grenades. with the ability that it can be increased by 2% to a max of 10% (or total 40%) resistance per skill lvl. (head shots do not receive this bonus)

the regular exile assault rifle does 31hp at 750 rpm for a 387.5dps, and a total 1860 per clip. with the base -30% to small arms and grenade damage received, that dps becomes 271.25pds and a total of 1302 per clip to a heavy. so in one clip a heavy can still be killed. however, this is assuming that the AR wielder is not missing any shots. if you as a heavy effectively take cover -OR- are shooting at the same time and not missing you will kill them in a one v one situation.

heavies are designed to win 1v1 encounters and to defend squads from being over run with suppressive fire.


these buffs are meant to balance the slow run speed, slow turning speed (this shouldn't change), the high skill point cost (you cnt just be a heavy and something else, you have to invest tons of sp into it), the lack of additional high power and low power slots, ease of heads-hots (slow target easier head shots), the long reload time, susceptibility to snipers and vehicles (vehicles should do the same damage to heavies as they dont fire small arms)

this will lead to a more dynamic gameplay as heavies will be able to both defend their squads from being over run, and push forward toward an objective.