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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:26:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:No need to call me names for suggesting that the mechanics in an FPS actually gravitate towards enhancing the FPS experience  I want corporate spies and sabotage, it livens up the game, but it's not exactly interesting to say "we infiltrated their corp, and then like, sat around all match....man, we should be on DUST true stories"
Apologies for name calling, but I get a little frustrated sometimes. I try not to resort to anything more personal or serious than "you're an idiot".
I disagree that there should be a kick mechanic. There's a lot of abuse that can come from that one command. Let's say the commander is the spy - he kicks everyone from his corp from the match, they get back in, rinse, repeat. Unfortunately that destroys the gameplay element to the degree that the game is literally unplayable.
I can agree that the current PC mechanics of getting into the match aren't ideal, but there are ways of fixing those instead of just saying "grant me a kick option". For example, Jenza's idea of the role granting permission to members to join PC. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
Orion Empire
549
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:56:00 -
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This was not an unknown problem. Heck it was brought up several times in the PC megathread well before Uprising even launched. I suggested the roster system before even Fanfest and I believe it was even talked about during the PC roundtable.
Anyone should have seen this coming - I felt so stupid when I realised what had happened to my own corp, knowing that it was I who let the spy in the day before and that I even recognised his name when he applied.
Yes, it's crappy that we have so little control over who can enter PC matches but CCP has confirmed that they know about the issue and have been looking at ways to mitigate it but as IWS said elsewhere, we're going to be waiting until the next big patch because this isn't a simple streamable hotfix. |
General John Ripper
187.
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:59:00 -
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I may be a noob, okay I AM A NOOB....
But what is awoxing?
NEVERMIND:Eltra Ardell link showed me the definition
AWOXing: the act infiltrating a corporation in Eve Online and taking advantage of game mechanics that allow you to easily find and initiate combat with your new GÇ£corpmatesGÇ¥ regardless of setting. It is often done in the pursuit of lulz and profit.
On another note. This is EPIC!!!! Go Jenza, I didnt know you had it in you. I am so proud. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:10:00 -
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What we are seriously discussion that betamax players ended up on the "enemy" team to sabotage them? Well duh this is not really classified CPM information. Every 1 who is smart enough coulda had figured that out by themself. |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:13:00 -
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Entity means he exists without a body. |
KEQ Harbinger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:14:00 -
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The kick option is, as it always has been, the best option available. Just as if you were to remove someone from a fleet, the kick option would remove a player from the battle. Simple as that- solves any problem that could ever arise. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
319
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:19:00 -
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Just a fun note: CRONOS CPM do not find the current method of sabotage faulty and is a part of the meta we - as FPSers who've never touched EVE - should of realized.
AKA if CCP fucks up it's all fair game so HTFU.
Lmao. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1407
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:26:00 -
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Frankly, I'm still amazed any random dude can just waltz right into a PC battle.
At least make it so that a CEO/director has to grant you permission to enter as a squadleader, and then anyone doing something stupid can get kicked.
If you went and actually made a random one of your directors... welll, yeah, can't help you there. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
178
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:06:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:
Could care less. She used information she got from CCP no one else had to exploit a broken system and dismantle a corporation. Shes a cheat. To top it off she was with a member of CCP staff during fanfest all night long. Shes a ***** that used her body to cheat in a video game. In other words, she's worthless.
Ok, so I really think you are raging in the wrong direction man. If what is being alleged is true, all she did was use the tools she was born with to pry info out of a weak link. It has happened all throughout history by women seeking information in times of both war and peace. It happens, deal with it.
However, having stated that; if these allegations are true, then CCP's IA has someone to can. Loose lips sink ships, apparently between the alcohol and the female attention, someone decided to loosen their lips. If you cannot maintain professional integrity then you have no right to be mingling with people who will be seeking sensitive information (read: The entire playerbase of New Eden).
Do we really want to repeat T20? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:09:00 -
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I am surprised the CPM is getting blamed. I mean I remember reading a fan-fiction posted to the forums concerning this very tactic months before the CPM or PC was around. Everyone loved the idea of friendly fire in it. Just it seems someone took that fan fiction story seriously enough to put themselves in a position to be doing it today.
but hey free internet cookie if you can find it, I am having a hard time remembering the title or author. |
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Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
112
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:28:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Laheon wrote:Dust, while I appreciate where you're coming from, that's the point in the game. You can easily turn your back on your employers/corporation and betray them for mistreating you or simply because you feel like it.
There should be a safety in place, though. Say, having to have a director on and approving players going into PC. i was going to suggest a role (once seperate roles are in) to allow members to join a corp match. that way awoxing is still possible, but needs a little more work on the side of the spai
That's just common sense, with anyone in corp being able to join PC matches, you have to seriously herd many of the grunts to not join it.
Its up to CCP to fix it, if a simple meta game exists players will do it.
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Grezkev
The Red Guards
EoN.
272
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:50:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:it doesnt take a genius to realise that getting a squad into a match with a spy is possible. Maybe its because i have played eve that i decided to go for it.
Exactly what information you thought i had to make awoxing possible that was not available to anyone else?
I recommend H.G. Frankfurt's On Bullshit. It's a good read. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
321
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am surprised the CPM is getting blamed. I mean I remember reading a fan-fiction posted to the forums concerning this very tactic months before the CPM or PC was around. Everyone loved the idea of friendly fire in it. Just it seems someone took that fan fiction story seriously enough to put themselves in a position to be doing it today.
but hey free internet cookie if you can find it, I am having a hard time remembering the title or author.
You're not being blamed - your being called cheaters who are incompetent and hide behind "Meta" as an excuse to abuse broken game mechanics.
I wonder how that worked our for Warriors? :3 |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers
EoN.
269
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:57:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am surprised the CPM is getting blamed. I mean I remember reading a fan-fiction posted to the forums concerning this very tactic months before the CPM or PC was around. Everyone loved the idea of friendly fire in it. Just it seems someone took that fan fiction story seriously enough to put themselves in a position to be doing it today.
but hey free internet cookie if you can find it, I am having a hard time remembering the title or author.
Blamed no.... however the complacency on the issue is the issue. To chalk the up the current broken mechanics as meta-game makes the game look like a fraud. Highlighting these low level spies being able to cripple corporations cheapens the game. To do the amount of damage these spies are capable of doing should take months if not years of socializing and building trust to earn roles. The current mechanics force corp leadership to have to jump through hoops managing holding corporations in order avoid one spy from getting in. Also any disgruntled member in the corp is capable of causing a corporation to loose all of it's districts in a day with minimal effort and no roles assigned to them. The best part is if they choose no one will ever know who betrayed them. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:54:00 -
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Hiya!
this is locked now... any questions file a petition at https://dust514.com/user/help-tickets/
Thanks.
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