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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:35:00 -
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Dust, while I appreciate where you're coming from, that's the point in the game. You can easily turn your back on your employers/corporation and betray them for mistreating you or simply because you feel like it.
There should be a safety in place, though. Say, having to have a director on and approving players going into PC. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:59:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:But what I'm saying, is that if you have control over your own clone vats (which lets face it, a corporation should) you would simply revoke their access codes if they decided to do something like that. (or just afk, not listen to orders, be generally stupid etc etc)
So, it still leaves the possibility for sabatoge, without making it a free for all that any idiot can do for hahas with no effort and very little repercussions. Speaking strictly from the perspective of lore, it makes no sense at all.
Frankly, if anyone does any of that, then they don't deserve to have been in the PC (or a PC corp) in the first place. The ability to grant a role to allow players into a match, as Jenza says below, still leaves room for any sabotage and clever play that a spy might be able to inflict. Moreover, if you let someone into the match and they much around, that's just a huge misjudgment on your part, and it's your own fault.
I recruited for an EVE highsec corp a while ago, a recruiting corp for a corp based in nullsec. I spent five minutes chatting to each one before accepting his application, including a look at his API and employment history. If there was anything wrong, I didn't accept him. In my three months of recruiting, I recruited perhaps 20-30 people, none of whom turned against the corp. In those same three months, only one of the many recruited turned out to be a pirate alt. And it's just as easy to make a pirate alt account on EVE than it is on DUST.
Buck up and toughen up your recruitment measures. If you don't chat to them, then you're doing it wrong.
[quote=jenza arandai was going to suggest a role (once seperate roles are in) to allow members to join a corp match. that way awoxing is still possible, but needs a little more work on the side of the spai[/quote]
It's a good idea, that way only the most trusted are able to participate in PC. Or, at the very least, you can pinpoint the source of the blame.
At the moment, being able to sabotage someone in PC has no real long-term effect. You need to be able to get into a director role and dismantle the corp for any true effect. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:32:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:While it's all well and good to allow spies and sabotage in the spirit of EVE, you ultimately can't forget that this is an FPS, and rewarding players (yet again) for not actually participating in a match is just bad form, as it ruins any form of amusement in the match itself. So again, having a system in place that helps mitigate things like this by allowing a battle commander to actually command the battle would go a long way in helping keep things in check. Make sure people can still spy and be destructive, but at least make it entertaining. Right now it's just silly and destroys any sense of fun that's already pretty thin in PC matches as is 
Then you're an idiot for not playing with people you trust? Frankly, when you get to competitive gameplay in ANY game, the only people you will play with are those you trust. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:38:00 -
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Groza Tragediya wrote:Your corporation is ****, please die. Jenza gives head for unicorn rides, and they dont even exist. See what i did there?
Please read forum rules, personal attacks are banned.
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Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
On another note, as a male gamer, I find it absolutely abhorrent that you're using Jenza's gender with regards to anything. Her gender has no bearing on her position in the game, her position on the CPM, and your attitude gives the male gaming community a bad name. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:26:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:No need to call me names for suggesting that the mechanics in an FPS actually gravitate towards enhancing the FPS experience I want corporate spies and sabotage, it livens up the game, but it's not exactly interesting to say "we infiltrated their corp, and then like, sat around all match....man, we should be on DUST true stories"
Apologies for name calling, but I get a little frustrated sometimes. I try not to resort to anything more personal or serious than "you're an idiot".
I disagree that there should be a kick mechanic. There's a lot of abuse that can come from that one command. Let's say the commander is the spy - he kicks everyone from his corp from the match, they get back in, rinse, repeat. Unfortunately that destroys the gameplay element to the degree that the game is literally unplayable.
I can agree that the current PC mechanics of getting into the match aren't ideal, but there are ways of fixing those instead of just saying "grant me a kick option". For example, Jenza's idea of the role granting permission to members to join PC. |
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