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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.27 07:26:00 -
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Soulskulptor wrote:Does anyone else think the AR is obsolete now? With the RR and the CR being more powerful with a longer range many people switched to them. 1.8 gave what I believe to be a much needed nerf to the damage of the RR and CR, the AR was also nerfed, just played today and it seemed to be so inadaquete despite having an adv damage mod, Which is sad since I blew my remaining SP into AR reload and ammo after speccing into min-logi and maxing weapon mod and scanners
No, I think we're probably gonna see a comeback of the standard AR. With 1.8, all the Sentinel suits have damage reduction bonuses, but only two (Cal and Min) have resistance to 'hybrid - blaster' damage, which is what the AR is classed as. When people start realizing their railguns and combat rifles aren't working as well against Gals and Amarr Sents because of their bonuses, I think you'll see an increase of GEKs and Duvolles back on the field.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.08 20:55:00 -
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A wealth of info for aspiring logis -- one of the best threads on the forums.
The following applies to Min logis, with regards to chubby chasing, mostly: With regards to the last posts about the AR, would like to note that it is seems to be a good choice again for logis, now in the era of 1.8 and Hotfix Bravo. Many logis went CR in the last couple builds, specifically the BK-42 as our primary, because the AR left us less competitive with the prevalence of armor tanking -- a logical choice at the time.
However, with the rise of the Cal Heavy, I've been thinking about switching back to my trusty GEK. Anybody thinking the same, or have done so already? Interested to hear other logis experiences, regarding what they think is the best support rifle these days: AR, CR, or RR? And when I say 'support rifle', I'm not talking about for being a slayer -- talking about the best rifle to use for mopping up when your heavy goes down, or for protecting your fatboy from long-range threats.
I used to think skilling into one primary weapon, and all the rest of your SP going into Enginneering/Electronics/equipment was the best way to go, but now I'm thinking newer logis should consider taking both a shield and armor based rifle, and creating fittings around both, so they can spawn in with what will do the most damage.
Dust 514... another leaf on the wind.
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:58:00 -
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Interesting discussion regarding AR versus CR for logis. I think 501st makes an extremely relevant point:
501st Headstrong wrote:Combat Rifle is my go to in PC and CQC because my primary enemies are heavies. If mine goes down, usually the opponent is down to armor or very low shields. My proficiency 4 CR finishes them, and I rez my friend.
If you are running a full squad, this is exactly what happens 99% of the time -- you end up dropping reps and having to finish the opponent off when he's already into armor. This would make the armor-bonus weapons the best for logis, as a general rule: CRs, RRs, Magsecs, and SMGs
John Demonsbane wrote:I feel like the range of the AR is too short to complement an HMG heavy if I'm paired up with one
Yeah, I feel exactly the same, which is why I like the BK-42 the most. When you first spec into it, it doesn't seem very good, but the key is getting to Sharpshooter 5, even before you take Proficency -- you become much more deadly at a medium range, more quickly. It's a good compliment to the heavy's short range, allowing you to protect him better in the open, but still effective close up, too.
RR, while deadly up close, is a bit harder to use in CQC (and I would expect this to get nerfed sometime in the future, anyways), and AR just doesn't seem to have enough range. Combined with the lower CPU/PG requirements, it really makes the CR a good all-around logi weapon.
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As an aside: wanted to point out some errata to your otherwise excellent thread, RedBleach:
RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:MAG Sec- It is the shield eating variant of the SMG.
The Magsec's bonus is to armor, not shields, my man.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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