DUST Search - Losing Players to Proto Stacking

Baal Roo wrote:

Mary Sedillo wrote:

Look at all the folks who want to solo a squad. Its sad. :( Learn how to squad perhaps? Invest into a mic? Solo Player should NEVER be able to woop a squad's ass if they are working together. That is just how it is. Team > Solo.

Yes, new players lose to a squad, and the only thing they see is the black suit or the gun in the kill feed and they assume that's why they died.

This is why these people need to have "GET IN A SQUAD, USE A MIC" jammed into their brains with an ice pick by the game. They are simply making incorrect assumptions because CCP hasn't built the game in a way that explains to them the ACTUAL problem with their strategy (or complete and utter lack thereof).

Furthermore, the entire concept of Resource Management needs to be brought into focus, and the idea of winning a "david vs. goliath" fight.

Players are so used to the goal of a game simply being to have a positive KDR, that they don't realize that particular stat isn't particularly relevant in Dust 514. Players are so used to everything being balanced to vanilla, that they don't even know how to handle losing. They can't get any enjoyment out of the 1 kill where they destroyed a 200k ISK suit with their FREE suit, because they are so hung up on the 5 deaths and their meaningless KDR statistic.

If it was made clear "you will die more in cheap gear, don't let that be a deterent, think in terms of profit/loss, not kill/death" they would understand the dynamics of the game, and that they simply have their priorities and goals wrong as a new player.

The problem is CCP is so used to a good portion of their game happening outside of client (because EVE) that they have forgotten that on a console F2P game, all of the important information needs to be present IN GAME. If they want the game to play differently than a normal shooter, with different goals, and different strategies, then they need to TELL THE PLAYERS IN GAME that the game plays different than a normal shooter, with different goals, and different strategies.

Most players aren't going to seek out and check a website to find out how to play a game that they downloaded for free. They are going to pop the thing in, give it a whirl, and if it doesn't make sense and feel fun (or challenging/fair), they will just turn it off and delete it.


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RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 168	Posted - 2013.05.22 13:03:00 - [1] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Mary Sedillo wrote: Look at all the folks who want to solo a squad. Its sad. :( Learn how to squad perhaps? Invest into a mic? Solo Player should NEVER be able to woop a squad's ass if they are working together. That is just how it is. Team > Solo. Yes, new players lose to a squad, and the only thing they see is the black suit or the gun in the kill feed and they assume that's why they died. This is why these people need to have "GET IN A SQUAD, USE A MIC" jammed into their brains with an ice pick by the game. They are simply making incorrect assumptions because CCP hasn't built the game in a way that explains to them the ACTUAL problem with their strategy (or complete and utter lack thereof). Furthermore, the entire concept of Resource Management needs to be brought into focus, and the idea of winning a "david vs. goliath" fight. Players are so used to the goal of a game simply being to have a positive KDR, that they don't realize that particular stat isn't particularly relevant in Dust 514. Players are so used to everything being balanced to vanilla, that they don't even know how to handle losing. They can't get any enjoyment out of the 1 kill where they destroyed a 200k ISK suit with their FREE suit, because they are so hung up on the 5 deaths and their meaningless KDR statistic. If it was made clear "you will die more in cheap gear, don't let that be a deterent, think in terms of profit/loss, not kill/death" they would understand the dynamics of the game, and that they simply have their priorities and goals wrong as a new player. The problem is CCP is so used to a good portion of their game happening outside of client (because EVE) that they have forgotten that on a console F2P game, all of the important information needs to be present IN GAME. If they want the game to play differently than a normal shooter, with different goals, and different strategies, then they need to TELL THE PLAYERS IN GAME that the game plays different than a normal shooter, with different goals, and different strategies. Most players aren't going to seek out and check a website to find out how to play a game that they downloaded for free. They are going to pop the thing in, give it a whirl, and if it doesn't make sense and feel fun (or challenging/fair), they will just turn it off and delete it. He's knocked it out the park ladies and gentlemen!!!