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Saucy Butt Love
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.05.18 07:41:00 -
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*i know i rant but please understand i LOVE DUST 514 i love the concept i love playing and i do not mean for any of this to come acros as me shouting at developers saying omg your sh** , in no way shape or form am I saying that.. You guys are awesome and what you have done is amazing*
I just don't understand why we have races with such a background story like the amarr and minmitar war, when we are fighting together while fight each other at the same time.... :/
In a match on one team there will be at least one person from each race... Why would minmitar fight alongside amarr.. Even further... Why would he/she help the amarr in killing another minmitar?
Shouldn't it be minmitar players fight with minmitar, amar fight with amar, galante fight with .. You get the point. And if we hate each other why would we use each others equipment. If I were minmitar (witch I am on my other account)... I'd never wear amarr dropsuits and use amar rifles. (witch seems to be what I will need to do soon - buy the scrambler rifle) Unless you release the minmitar rifles and all factional items.
I cant wrap my head around it :'( you made such good stories with gripping backgrounds and realistic tales of what happend when new Eden opened... But yet we fight together and kill each other... I can understand *ish* using another races weapons but at more of a cost. Sp and ISK wise. But not actually being a caldari fighting with gallente and minmitar it just shouldn't be that way. |
EXASTRA INVICTAS
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 07:48:00 -
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Saucy Butt Love wrote:*i know i rant but please understand i LOVE DUST 514 i love the concept i love playing and i do not mean for any of this to come across ascue shouting at developers saying omg your sh** because in no way shape or form am I saying that.. You guys are awesome and what you have done is amazing*
I just don't understand why we have races with such a background story like the amarr and minmitar war, when we are fighting together while fight each other at the same time.... :/
In a match on one team there will be at least one person from each race... Why would minmitar fight alongside amarr.. Even further... Why would he/she help the amarr in killing another minmitar?
Shouldn't it be minmitar players fight with minmitar, amar fight with amar, galante fight with .. You get the point. And if we hate each other why would we use each others equipment. If I were minmitar (witch I am on my other account)... I'd never wear amarr dropsuits and use amar rifles. (witch seems to be what I will need to do soon - buy the scrambler rifle) Unless you release the minmitar rifles and all factional items.
I cant wrap my head around it :'( you made such good stories with gripping backgrounds and realistic tales of what happend when new Eden opened... But yet we fight together and kill each other... I can understand *ish* using another races weapons but at more of a cost. Sp and ISK wise. But not actually being a caldari fighting with gallente and minmitar it just shouldn't be that way.
Because you're not just Amarrian, Matari, Caldanese, or Gallente anymore. You're a mercenary, a muddy version of a Capsuleer. You go beyond race, beyond creed, beyond death.
It's up to you and only you to decide what you want to do, where you want to go, and why you want to do it. And just because you're one race doesn't mean you're relegated to that race's equipment. So just because you see a Minmatar Logistics suit, doesn't mean the Merc isn't a Caldanese.
Basically, your.. er.. idea (?) would be totally constraining and not fun for anyone at all. If you can't cross train, or you can't cross train easily then a lot of people will up and leave the game when they decide they started with the wrong race for what they like. One of EVE's selling points has been that no matter what race you are and what you originally chose as your profession, NOTHING forces you to stay in that race's equipment or stay in that profession (Unlike choosing a Night Elf mage for example in a different MMO, where that character is a Night Elf Mage forever). Being an Amarr pilot, you can always change over to using Matari ships if you prefer them. This same design concept applies to DUST.
Make a role playing corp if you want to see more Race vs Race backstoryish stuff, make it yourself. There are plenty already in EVE and I'm sure there will be some to come in DUST. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
290
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Posted - 2013.05.18 07:55:00 -
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There are these great wars going on and all of that good stuff, but we have no commitment to any of them. We are mercenaries. Sure we have a race and an origin but that is simply because we exist, similar to how mercenaries in real life have a country of origin but aren't obligated to fight for them like they are part of some national military.We get all our gear from them simply because they are the only ones who make gear. We may choose to fight for a specific faction but at the end of the day it's either because of the pay or because some moral compass, but it is our decision not our birth's decision. |
PADDEhatpigen
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.18 08:06:00 -
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Races and factions dont matter you are a merc, you decide what you want to do.
But there is 1 thing, in EVE you dont fit Minmatar projectile weapons on your Amar ship, you can do it but that would be FAIL in most cases if not all, you fit Amar lasers |
Saucy Butt Love
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
12
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Posted - 2013.05.18 19:05:00 -
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I dunno .. I'm in two minds about it. :/ you can't make the perfect game can you. The only bad thing about it is that you have ammarians fighting for minmitar. But it's good that you are not restricted to anything. |
BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.05.18 20:33:00 -
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Saucy Butt Love wrote:*i know i rant but please understand i LOVE DUST 514 i love the concept i love playing and i do not mean for any of this to come acros as me shouting at developers saying omg your sh** , in no way shape or form am I saying that.. You guys are awesome and what you have done is amazing*
I just don't understand why we have races with such a background story like the amarr and minmitar war, when we are fighting together while fight each other at the same time.... :/
In a match on one team there will be at least one person from each race... Why would minmitar fight alongside amarr.. Even further... Why would he/she help the amarr in killing another minmitar?
Shouldn't it be minmitar players fight with minmitar, amar fight with amar, galante fight with .. You get the point. And if we hate each other why would we use each others equipment. If I were minmitar (witch I am on my other account)... I'd never wear amarr dropsuits and use amar rifles. (witch seems to be what I will need to do soon - buy the scrambler rifle) Unless you release the minmitar rifles and all factional items.
I cant wrap my head around it :'( you made such good stories with gripping backgrounds and realistic tales of what happend when new Eden opened... But yet we fight together and kill each other... I can understand *ish* using another races weapons but at more of a cost. Sp and ISK wise. But not actually being a caldari fighting with gallente and minmitar it just shouldn't be that way.
In real life, your race and/or nationality does NOT determine your personality or what your political views are. I'm American, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything America is doing or has done. It's the same way in EVE. Just because you're an Amarrian doesn't necessarily mean that you're OK with enslaving the minmatar people.
As a mercenary in DUST, you can choose to fight for whatever reason you want. |
Saucy Butt Love
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
12
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:22:00 -
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In real life, your race and/or nationality does NOT determine your personality or what your political views are. I'm American, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything America is doing or has done. It's the same way in EVE. Just because you're an Amarrian doesn't necessarily mean that you're OK with enslaving the minmatar people.
As a mercenary in DUST, you can choose to fight for whatever reason you want.[/quote]
Yes but being a clone, they would inject us with something, forcing us to obey them.
But like I said, I like how we are not tied down to a race. But I also don't like it. It's just one of those things. Unless we are made in our own space not made by one of the four races, then I can understand getting a contract and fighting for the sake of it in any gear you as merc wanted. In a world were everyone is a merc and they get along with each other untill someone from one the four races says, kill him for ISK. That makes more sence than I'm a minmitar merc made from minmitar 'recorces or whatever' but I kill other minmitar Mercs. and fight along side amarien clones.
Intact don't know about you, but being born somewhere else in another region not from one of the four races, really does make a better reason for us killing whoever and acting the way we do. Surely if you were born from a race, that race would implant something into you making you obey them. |
BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
30
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Posted - 2013.05.18 21:37:00 -
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Saucy Butt Love wrote:
Yes but being a clone, they would inject us with something, forcing us to obey them.
But like I said, I like how we are not tied down to a race. But I also don't like it. It's just one of those things. Unless we are made in our own space not made by one of the four races, then I can understand getting a contract and fighting for the sake of it in any gear you as merc wanted. In a world were everyone is a merc and they get along with each other untill someone from one the four races says, kill him for ISK. That makes more sence than I'm a minmitar merc made from minmitar 'recorces or whatever' but I kill other minmitar Mercs. and fight along side amarien clones.
Intact don't know about you, but being born somewhere else in another region not from one of the four races, really does make a better reason for us killing whoever and acting the way we do. Surely if you were born from a race, that race would implant something into you making you obey them.
Based on the EVE storyline, the four races are actually AGAINST mind controlled slaves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWmtsRLZYw
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Saucy Butt Love
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
13
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Posted - 2013.05.20 12:05:00 -
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BulletSnitcheZ wrote:Saucy Butt Love wrote:
Yes but being a clone, they would inject us with something, forcing us to obey them.
But like I said, I like how we are not tied down to a race. But I also don't like it. It's just one of those things. Unless we are made in our own space not made by one of the four races, then I can understand getting a contract and fighting for the sake of it in any gear you as merc wanted. In a world were everyone is a merc and they get along with each other untill someone from one the four races says, kill him for ISK. That makes more sence than I'm a minmitar merc made from minmitar 'recorces or whatever' but I kill other minmitar Mercs. and fight along side amarien clones.
Intact don't know about you, but being born somewhere else in another region not from one of the four races, really does make a better reason for us killing whoever and acting the way we do. Surely if you were born from a race, that race would implant something into you making you obey them.
Based on the EVE storyline, the four races are actually AGAINST mind controlled slaves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWmtsRLZYw
There we go ^^ thanks that makes it easier to understand :) before I was just thinking surely they would be forced to fight for them. Awesome link thanks |
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