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Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
67
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:04:00 -
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So I've been using the Imperial Scrambler Rifle for a bit now with some damage mods (currently running enhanced damage mods but will be complex soon) and that thing hits like a freight train - question is, with continued speccing into SCR Proficiency therefore increasing the damage, does the Carthum (full auto proto SCR) become viable at any point?
Has anyone used both and not just one or the other to provide some insight on this before I invest in hundreds of Carthums.
Thanks. |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
218
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:15:00 -
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why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
67
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:17:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using.
I refuse to use anything non Amarr and I'm definitely not going to use the AR/TARs. |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
218
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:19:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using. I refuse to use anything non Amarr and I'm definitely not going to use the AR/TARs. Ok, cripple yourself because you want to roll play something no one cares about.
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Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
67
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:22:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using. I refuse to use anything non Amarr and I'm definitely not going to use the AR/TARs. Ok, cripple yourself because you want to roll play something no one cares about.
First off it is "role play" so get it straight, second off, the SCR are viable weapons in capable hands but it sounds like you're in the CoD state of mind if you think that not playing with ARs is crippling yourself when there are many other weapon choices in DUST.
Please just move along, your contributions are no longer needed in this thread. |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
218
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:23:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using. I refuse to use anything non Amarr and I'm definitely not going to use the AR/TARs. Ok, cripple yourself because you want to roll play something no one cares about. First off it is "role play" so get it straight, second off, the SCR are viable weapons in capable hands but it sounds like you're in the CoD state of mind if you think that not playing with ARs is crippling yourself when there are many other weapon choices in DUST. Please just move along, your contributions are no longer needed in this thread. I use whatever works the best.
And the TAR is the most efficient weapon in the game right now.
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BL4CK FRIAR
HDYLTA
55
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:28:00 -
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I two use the SR aswell, and I find the Assault version very viable. Granted when talking about armor it drops in usefulness quickly, and I have found myself becoming my corps "King of Assists". I would recommend that you fore go your anti-anything else stance and get a flaylock to finish off those pesky Heavies. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
67
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:32:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using. I refuse to use anything non Amarr and I'm definitely not going to use the AR/TARs. Ok, cripple yourself because you want to roll play something no one cares about. First off it is "role play" so get it straight, second off, the SCR are viable weapons in capable hands but it sounds like you're in the CoD state of mind if you think that not playing with ARs is crippling yourself when there are many other weapon choices in DUST. Please just move along, your contributions are no longer needed in this thread. I use whatever works. The TAR is the most efficient weapon in the game right now. Please go change your diaper, because you apparently soiled it.
You're no different than those in BF3 who use the M16A3 because it is the "best weapon" foregoing any diversity in weapon selection just because you feel the need to pad your K/D as much as possible.
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Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:47:00 -
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I don't care about my KD, I want competition |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
298
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:54:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I've been using the Imperial Scrambler Rifle for a bit now with some damage mods (currently running enhanced damage mods but will be complex soon) and that thing hits like a freight train - question is, with continued speccing into SCR Proficiency therefore increasing the damage, does the Carthum (full auto proto SCR) become viable at any point?
Has anyone used both and not just one or the other to provide some insight on this before I invest in hundreds of Carthums.
Thanks.
Yeah it is already very viable! |
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Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
16
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Posted - 2013.05.18 05:07:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:I don't care about my KD, I want competition
This^ |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
298
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Posted - 2013.05.18 05:21:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using. I refuse to use anything non Amarr and I'm definitely not going to use the AR/TARs.
This may be a double post but for the first time ever I saw someone who did the same thing I did! |
Xander Mercy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
136
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Posted - 2013.05.18 05:39:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I've been using the Imperial Scrambler Rifle for a bit now with some damage mods (currently running enhanced damage mods but will be complex soon) and that thing hits like a freight train - question is, with continued speccing into SCR Proficiency therefore increasing the damage, does the Carthum (full auto proto SCR) become viable at any point?
Has anyone used both and not just one or the other to provide some insight on this before I invest in hundreds of Carthums.
Thanks. Yeah it is already very viable!
i switched back and forth between the guns when they first came out and find that the imperial is a good weapon but tends to fail in drawn out gunfights while the carthum is pretty much made for long gunfights with its extra large clip size making it a much better clutch weapon |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
192
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:09:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:I don't care about my KD, I want competition
Get good and you will have competition... maybe |
Imp Smash
On The Brink
CRONOS.
92
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:22:00 -
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They are both equally useful in different situations. I prefer the singleshot and use my sidearm cause it kinda sucks in cqc. Assault is better at cqc but not as good at range due to the dispersion. As another poster noted above its inferior to all ARs of the same level. It is, however, serviceable. |
Void Echo
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
100
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:26:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using. I refuse to use anything non Amarr and I'm definitely not going to use the AR/TARs.
amarrian slaver |
Dust HaHakoke
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
0
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:45:00 -
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you are aware they seem to be thinking on fixing the TAR problem right? im sure you will come on to these forums when it happens and whine about why it was nerfed |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
1535
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:51:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using. I refuse to use anything non Amarr and I'm definitely not going to use the AR/TARs. Ok, cripple yourself because you want to roll play something no one cares about.
I **** AR users with your mentality all day with my CRD SR. You're probably just a Cal user that doesn't want people using 120% shield effectiveness weapons because you're scared of taking a K/DR hit. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
68
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:33:00 -
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Xander Mercy wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I've been using the Imperial Scrambler Rifle for a bit now with some damage mods (currently running enhanced damage mods but will be complex soon) and that thing hits like a freight train - question is, with continued speccing into SCR Proficiency therefore increasing the damage, does the Carthum (full auto proto SCR) become viable at any point?
Has anyone used both and not just one or the other to provide some insight on this before I invest in hundreds of Carthums.
Thanks. Yeah it is already very viable! i switched back and forth between the guns when they first came out and find that the imperial is a good weapon but tends to fail in drawn out gunfights while the carthum is pretty much made for long gunfights with its extra large clip size making it a much better clutch weapon
I was thinking of using the Carthum for that very reason, but the dispersion on the auto SCRs is just so bad. |
Secon Nine
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:36:00 -
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I can speak for the Automatic scramblers, they are perfect. well... maby a bit more range would be cool.
People qq to much about the TAR, its not even a threat compared to the AR.
I rate guns by how fast they vaporize me in the hands of a pro, The Carthum and Devolle kill me at the same speed, an faster then anything else I seen yet. The TAR is like a bug bitting me on the side, takes people for ever to kill me with one.
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Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
299
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:37:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I've been using the Imperial Scrambler Rifle for a bit now with some damage mods (currently running enhanced damage mods but will be complex soon) and that thing hits like a freight train - question is, with continued speccing into SCR Proficiency therefore increasing the damage, does the Carthum (full auto proto SCR) become viable at any point?
Has anyone used both and not just one or the other to provide some insight on this before I invest in hundreds of Carthums.
Thanks. Yeah it is already very viable! i switched back and forth between the guns when they first came out and find that the imperial is a good weapon but tends to fail in drawn out gunfights while the carthum is pretty much made for long gunfights with its extra large clip size making it a much better clutch weapon I was thinking of using the Carthum for that very reason, but the dispersion on the auto SCRs is just so bad.
Yes as you try to engage enemies at longer ranges you will suffer as you said the dispersion is rather bad as well as being only effective against shields, so when you get down to armour you essentially have little to no chance to finish off your opponent.
The clip size is a huge benefit to this gun I have had several encounters where I would say the only reason I survived was that I could shoot those extra shots before reloading. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
111
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:40:00 -
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Use whichever appeals to you the most. Don't listen to the "X is better, stop kidding yourself" crowd because it is obvious once the nerfhammer strikes on the Cal logi and the TAR, many people will regret having spec'd into it for the wrong reasons. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
299
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:55:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:Use whichever appeals to you the most. Don't listen to the "X is better, stop kidding yourself" crowd because it is obvious once the nerfhammer strikes on the Cal logi and the TAR, many people will regret having spec'd into it for the wrong reasons.
I thought the Scrambler Rifle was the nerf on the Caldari logi suit....sure seems like it to me. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
274
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:26:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:why bother, the other AR's we've been using are superior to it.
the SR's need a range buff so they actually out range the blaster rifles we're using.
This really.
Comparing the 2 variants, I prefer the auto just because I love the sound. The Imperial is so much stronger and if you're using the assault Amarr suit then you can take advantage of less heat build up. I use Caldari suit and the Carthum doesn't overheat even when emptying entire clip. |
JonnyAugust
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
223
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:31:00 -
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I'm enjoying how no one is giving the SR any credit. That leaves me room to step in and exploit the power fullness of it when used correctly. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
76
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:00:00 -
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I do use the Amarr Assault suit, but even with SCR at V and SCR Proficiency at I, it overheats after six shots even though it seriously hits like a train.
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WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
274
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:09:00 -
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Just try it, you won't be impressed. Using damage mods and armor tanking isn't a good idea when using the Carthum, because you'll move slowly and the weapon has very low range. imo shields and speed is the way to go for CQC, strafing, escaping your ass off, etc. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
78
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:12:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Just try it, you won't be impressed. Using damage mods and armor tanking isn't a good idea when using the Carthum, because you'll move slowly and the weapon has very low range. imo shields and speed is the way to go for CQC, strafing, escaping your ass off, etc.
That makes a lot of sense actually.
I'll make a new fitting then.
Amarr Assault
2 Enhanced Shield Extenders
1 Enhanced Shield Regulator
1 Kinetic Catalyzer
Locus Grenades (to help take chunks out of armor)
Carthum SCR
Scrambler Pistol |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
274
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:18:00 -
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Unlock complex shield extenders ASAP. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
79
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:25:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Unlock complex shield extenders ASAP.
Will do. |
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LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
18
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Posted - 2013.05.18 18:30:00 -
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You're no different than those in BF3 who use the M16A3 because it is the "best weapon" foregoing any diversity in weapon selection just because you feel the need to pad your K/D as much as possible.
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AEK FTW!! Screw the M16A3 |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.05.18 18:57:00 -
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I personally use the assault variations, therefore I recomend the Carthum Sr.
I don't see the hate on SRs. I LOVE the new rifle  |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
42
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Posted - 2013.05.18 19:00:00 -
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I personally use the assault variations, therefore I recomend the Carthum Sr.
I don't see the hate on SRs. I LOVE the new rifle |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
67
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Posted - 2013.05.18 19:01:00 -
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It warms my heart to know no one thinks the SR is overpowered. |
Void Echo
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
102
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Posted - 2013.05.19 07:33:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:It warms my heart to know no one thinks the SR is overpowered.
iv gone up and personal against it many times since the uprising began, its like the amarr version of the duvoule tactical only its an automatic riffle, although iv only been killed by it about 10 times all together in several matches, iv killed far more users though lol |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
6
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:43:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Xander Mercy wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I've been using the Imperial Scrambler Rifle for a bit now with some damage mods (currently running enhanced damage mods but will be complex soon) and that thing hits like a freight train - question is, with continued speccing into SCR Proficiency therefore increasing the damage, does the Carthum (full auto proto SCR) become viable at any point?
Has anyone used both and not just one or the other to provide some insight on this before I invest in hundreds of Carthums.
Thanks. Yeah it is already very viable! i switched back and forth between the guns when they first came out and find that the imperial is a good weapon but tends to fail in drawn out gunfights while the carthum is pretty much made for long gunfights with its extra large clip size making it a much better clutch weapon I was thinking of using the Carthum for that very reason, but the dispersion on the auto SCRs is just so bad.
EXACTLY. The Imperial SR is WAY better. i used the Carthum Assault, it is good, but its hard to finish people off. what i do is i use the Imperial SR with SR prof. to lvl 5 and 2 complex dmg mods. that's gotta be doing pretty close to 100 dmg per shot, uncharged. |
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