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Torr Wrath Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 238	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:48:00 - [1] - Quote Fix in this case meaning nerf the hell out of the weapon so its actually on par with the others? Has CCP even acknowledged that its a problem yet?
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 52	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:51:00 - [2] - Quote yeah, just needs hip fire accuracy reduction and rof reduction, it'll be rocking
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 293	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:52:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah I like the high damage on the TAR but it should be slight slower in terms of rof
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 330	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:52:00 - [4] - Quote Instead of nerfing the TAR they buffed starter LAVs. Problem solved!
David Spd Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:55:00 - [5] - Quote Torr Wrath wrote: Fix in this case meaning nerf the hell out of the weapon so its actually on par with the others? Has CCP even acknowledged that its a problem yet? The only thing I've seen CCP say about the Tac is that they plan to "disable" the use of modded controllers. Will still be too good imo...
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 312	Posted - 2013.05.17 05:57:00 - [6] - Quote The regular Ar easily beats it in cqc out to short ranges, is about equal at medium range, but loses at longer ranges. nerf the Duvolle AR!
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 330	Posted - 2013.05.17 06:00:00 - [7] - Quote Reduce clip size and ammo capacity. Done. No other change required. How many people are complaining without using it first?
Torr Wrath Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 239	Posted - 2013.05.17 06:24:00 - [8] - Quote Full Metal Kitten wrote: Reduce clip size and ammo capacity. Done. No other change required. How many people are complaining without using it first? Nothing about how it has the best damage projection at range that isnt a sniper riffle or a forge gun? or how its dps at any range short of -its- maximum is almost twice that of a normal ar under idea circumstances? I cant even locate a weapon that has superior dps to the TAR assuming perfect accuracy/firing as fast as you can. Too bad its not an accurate weapon so it cant get most of that dps.. oh wait.
David Spd Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.05.17 06:24:00 - [9] - Quote Full Metal Kitten wrote: Reduce clip size and ammo capacity. Done. No other change required. How many people are complaining without using it first? I've been using it since before it was "cool". At the distance it's good for people have a hard time fighting back. Virtually impossible if stacking dmg mods. Sniper without sway & penalising recoil. Close range doesn't really matter, only need a couple of bullets to land and it's entirely doable from the hip. If you get a headshot at any point your TTK is cut more than half of what it'd take with body shots if it isn't just a kill outright. Modded controller it fires like regular AR. Normal taps you can get whole mag out at a comparable speed to regular AR. Gun is broken imo. It needs morethan capacity & mag reduction if dmg stays the same.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 234	Posted - 2013.05.17 06:27:00 - [10] - Quote Sontie wrote: The regular Ar easily beats it in cqc out to short ranges, is about equal at medium range, but loses at longer ranges. nerf the Duvolle AR! obvious denial is obvious

Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 317	Posted - 2013.05.17 13:13:00 - [11] - Quote I have ran across very few people with better aim than me at the TAR and mine is not as good as I want it to be. With the current clip size, I often can't kill someone due to missing. The TAR has the potential to be OP, because of the ROF, but 99% of the time, no one is firing that fast. It DOES have kick and significant hip fire dispersion. The most dangerous people I've met are firing maybe 1-2 rounds per second, unless the target is standing dead still. The TAR is to good, but only barely. The regular AR is to good to, if the SCR is supposed to be competitive that is.
Terra Thesis HDYLTA 40	Posted - 2013.05.17 13:53:00 - [12] - Quote Sontie wrote: The TAR is to good, but only barely. The regular AR is to good to, if the SCR is supposed to be competitive that is. what about the LR? do you think it has a role on the battlefield today?
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 758	Posted - 2013.05.17 13:58:00 - [13] - Quote We hates it. So much time and effort to stay out of the guy's line of fire and safely close the distance, and then it turns out that the gun is better in CQC than my SMG.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 245	Posted - 2013.05.17 14:15:00 - [14] - Quote Sontie wrote: I have ran across very few people with better aim than me at the TAR and mine is not as good as I want it to be. With the current clip size, I often can't kill someone due to missing. The TAR has the potential to be OP, because of the ROF, but 99% of the time, no one is firing that fast. It DOES have kick and significant hip fire dispersion. The most dangerous people I've met are firing maybe 1-2 rounds per second, unless the target is standing dead still. The TAR is to good, but only barely. The regular AR is to good to, if the SCR is supposed to be competitive that is. TAR and hipfire kick, good joke! your denial makes you look very stupid. do yourself a favor and stop posting...
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 317	Posted - 2013.05.17 14:24:00 - [15] - Quote The LR is a joke and needs a buff. if you fire the AR and the TAR as fast as you can, you'll notice that the spread of the TAR is wider than the AR... The TAR was king til they fixed aiming and buffed damage. You guys just haven't been paying attention, stuff on your Uprising launch QQ bender.
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 108	Posted - 2013.05.17 14:28:00 - [16] - Quote TAR hip fire dispersion? Pretty sure it is more the lack of pin point hipfire aiming from the user. Unless you did try against a reddot at 10-20 m who was standing still and you counted the % of bullet which missed. It pretty hard to tell it is indeed dispersion. Talk without proof to back it up is worth nothing. On a general note, I do understand now how hard it is for CCP to make changes while listening to the forum. Don't blame them for looking at their stats and ignoring most of the post here, I would do the same.
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries 64	Posted - 2013.05.17 14:29:00 - [17] - Quote When people say TAR, do they mean all the tac rifles or just the Duvolle? Duvolle is the best weapon by a country mile, so there is something wrong there. But the GLU-5 is hardly a god gun.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 245	Posted - 2013.05.17 14:30:00 - [18] - Quote Sontie wrote: The LR is a joke and needs a buff. if you fire the AR and the TAR as fast as you can, you'll notice that the spread of the TAR is wider than the AR... The TAR was king til they fixed aiming and buffed damage. You guys just haven't been paying attention, stuff on your Uprising launch QQ bender. denial and aiming issues detected
bonkersfox Foxhound Corporation 41	Posted - 2013.05.17 15:33:00 - [19] - Quote the tar is the m14 of the future, larger round, smaller clip size, I used to think like you guys, so I got myself a tac, it aint all that, with ar 1 round follows the next on target, with the tac, the crosshair jumps and you have to compensate, I cant see how it fires as quick as the ar though, logic would dictate that a semi auto would fire slower due to having to pull the trigger every shot, and the smaller mag meaning having to reload more often, iv been hearing rumblings about turbo pads, maybe that's how there firing so quick, its packs of tacs, iv gone back to ar,
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 18	Posted - 2013.05.17 16:15:00 - [20] - Quote bonkersfox wrote: the tar is the m14 of the future, larger round, smaller clip size, I used to think like you guys, so I got myself a tac, it aint all that, with ar 1 round follows the next on target, with the tac, the crosshair jumps and you have to compensate, I cant see how it fires as quick as the ar though, logic would dictate that a semi auto would fire slower due to having to pull the trigger every shot, and the smaller mag meaning having to reload more often, iv been hearing rumblings about turbo pads, maybe that's how there firing so quick, its packs of tacs, iv gone back to ar, >turbo pads I can fire the entire magazine of a tar in 4 seconds using a standard mouse landing 80% of the shots. Its not modded controllers, its mice.

Torr Wrath Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 247	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:03:00 - [21] - Quote RedRebelCork wrote: When people say TAR, do they mean all the tac rifles or just the Duvolle? Duvolle is the best weapon by a country mile, so there is something wrong there. But the GLU-5 is hardly a god gun. Considering weapons are increased based on percents.. the GLU-5 is just as bad for an advanced gun. Hell the GLU-5 would still make a pretty kick ass proto gun as it barely loses anything. a what.. 4.5% damage decrease? a couple m of range? the GLU-5 would still be an OP gun if it was proto. Its just not as good as the proto variant.
Fiasco Llana Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 255	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:12:00 - [22] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: bonkersfox wrote: the tar is the m14 of the future, larger round, smaller clip size, I used to think like you guys, so I got myself a tac, it aint all that, with ar 1 round follows the next on target, with the tac, the crosshair jumps and you have to compensate, I cant see how it fires as quick as the ar though, logic would dictate that a semi auto would fire slower due to having to pull the trigger every shot, and the smaller mag meaning having to reload more often, iv been hearing rumblings about turbo pads, maybe that's how there firing so quick, its packs of tacs, iv gone back to ar, >turbo pads I can fire the entire magazine of a tar in 4 seconds using a standard mouse landing 80% of the shots. Its not modded controllers, its mice. Agreed, I can spam the Sh*t out of R1 on controller or mouse.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 82	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:22:00 - [23] - Quote Torr Wrath wrote: Fix in this case meaning nerf the hell out of the weapon so its actually on par with the others? Has CCP even acknowledged that its a problem yet? People running around with 10 million SP going against people with 2 million. Yeah sure the TAR is what is unbalanced...yeah right.
bonkersfox Foxhound Corporation 41	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:35:00 - [24] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: [quote=bonkersfox]the tar is the m14 of the future, larger round, smaller clip size, I used to think like you guys, so I got myself a tac, it aint all that, with ar 1 round follows the next on target, with the tac, the crosshair jumps and you have to compensate, I cant see how it fires as quick as the ar though, logic would dictate that a semi auto would fire slower due to having to pull the trigger every shot, and the smaller mag meaning having to reload more often, iv been hearing rumblings about turbo pads, maybe that's how there firing so quick, its packs of tacs, iv gone back to ar, >turbo pads I can fire the entire magazine of a tar in 4 seconds using a standard mouse landing 80% of the shots. Its not modded controllers, its mice.[/quote I see where your coming from, its just the click of the finger, it must just be me with my standard dualshock, movement and use of a mouse is more confined or tighter... suites fps games better..
Torr Wrath Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 247	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:51:00 - [25] - Quote hooc order wrote: Torr Wrath wrote: Fix in this case meaning nerf the hell out of the weapon so its actually on par with the others? Has CCP even acknowledged that its a problem yet? People running around with 10 million SP going against people with 2 million. Yeah sure the TAR is what is unbalanced...yeah right. Im one of the guys with 10 mill. Yeah. it is unbalanced.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 227	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:53:00 - [26] - Quote There've already been many posts on the raw numbers of the TAR, and why it's silly-strong. I'd think that would be enough. There was also a CPM feedback thread on the TAR I believe, though I don't recall anything coming of that.
RoTTeN-1 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:34:00 - [27] - Quote How about they buff the other ARs range. Maybe then we will see people use something other than the Tac. All you people do around here is QQ and cry for nerfs. You should cry for buffs instead.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Unclaimed. 40	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:59:00 - [28] - Quote Sontie wrote: The regular Ar easily beats it in cqc out to short ranges, is about equal at medium range, but loses at longer ranges. nerf the Duvolle AR! All of my what... It's not like the Duvolle Tac with 5 enhanced damage mods doesn't 4 hit almost any suit right?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 424	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:00:00 - [29] - Quote the TAR small clip size is not a big enough limiter they also need to reduce its RoF to less then the breach AR.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4266	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:01:00 - [30] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76001&find=unread please use this thread.

Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 767	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:05:00 - [31] - Quote I found another reason to hate this gun! Blue Tac AR guys keep poaching my kills! I run up and start doing the CQ dance of death with somebody, and then BLAM some guy on a mountain turns around and finishes them off with a single bullet.
G Sacred Rubber Chicken Bombers 83	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:08:00 - [32] - Quote Lol I realized after reading a few posts down in the thread you are referring to the Tactical Assault Rifle. I thought you meant TAR as in Thales TAR-07 Sniper Rifle. I was gonna be like, dude, its rare salvage, its supposed to ****.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 85	Posted - 2013.05.17 21:11:00 - [33] - Quote hooc order wrote: Torr Wrath wrote: Fix in this case meaning nerf the hell out of the weapon so its actually on par with the others? Has CCP even acknowledged that its a problem yet? People running around with 10 million SP going against people with 2 million. Yeah sure the TAR is what is unbalanced...yeah right. 10 million sp player kills another 10 million sp player and the world shed rivers for tears.


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