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Grenadez Rollack
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 03:57:00 -
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Ok its clear that someone in ccp has something against heavies. Can we get a real clear date on when we can respec. If I have to continue to wait while basically every other class over power the heavy class I dont see the need to keep playing. I mean all you got to do is grab a lav and run over all the heavies you see. I mean its not like they quick enough to get out the way. Or better yet lets just surround the heavy and stat out his range and kill him with devoulle and tar's. Not like he's fast enough to get to cover. Then you say you won't do the respec until you redo the skill tree. The heavy has been broken since uprising and the only thing you did was Gave some dmg. |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.17 03:58:00 -
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against heavies?
HAVE YOU SEEN THE DROPSHIPS WE FLY?! |
Human Anamoly
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.17 04:46:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:against heavies?
HAVE YOU SEEN THE DROPSHIPS WE FLY?!
bump for pilots.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:14:00 -
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Lol they rebuffed the hmgs back to being formidable. Any heavy that doesn't pack AV nades deserves to be run down by a starter fit LAV. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:18:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Lol they rebuffed the hmgs back to being formidable. Any heavy that doesn't pack AV nades deserves to be run down by a starter fit LAV. This. They are decent once again.
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Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:20:00 -
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Also surrounded is dead for any suit save a jumpy shotty which perversely relishes that ****. Rage less... l2p better. |
Andius Fidelitas
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:21:00 -
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Human Anamoly wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:against heavies?
HAVE YOU SEEN THE DROPSHIPS WE FLY?! bump for pilots.
babump. CCP hates fliers, and they eat babies, true story. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:23:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Lol they rebuffed the hmgs back to being formidable. Any heavy that doesn't pack AV nades deserves to be run down by a starter fit LAV.
Save for the part where you need lv4 packed EXO av nades to kill a militia LAV now. so basically, it'll shrug it off and use your face as a ramp. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
114
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:28:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lol they rebuffed the hmgs back to being formidable. Any heavy that doesn't pack AV nades deserves to be run down by a starter fit LAV. This. They are decent once again.
Pre Uprising build the HMG did 17.6 damage, after Uprising HMG did 14.5, NOW the HMG does 18.0
Tho it is much more usefull now then when Uprising 1st launched, I really dont see .4 damge as a "Buff" but more like a "Reset" |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
114
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:30:00 -
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LAVs should pose no real threat to a Good heavy, FG and AV nades are your friend |
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Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:32:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Lol they rebuffed the hmgs back to being formidable. Any heavy that doesn't pack AV nades deserves to be run down by a starter fit LAV. This. They are decent once again. Pre Uprising build the HMG did 17.6 damage, after Uprising HMG did 14.5, NOW the HMG does 18.0 Tho it is much more usefull now then when Uprising 1st launched, I really dont see .4 damge as a "Buff" but more like a "Reset" Who said 'buff'?
They are decent and fill the role well again. My Cal assault std AR isn't up to pre uprising rapefest either... but its decent too.
Edit... oh there it is. N/m. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:38:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Lol they rebuffed the hmgs back to being formidable. Any heavy that doesn't pack AV nades deserves to be run down by a starter fit LAV. Keep talking like that and those militia LAVs may get another HP buff. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:46:00 -
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ie. AR vs SR |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
305
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:46:00 -
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Heavies keep saying they suck bla bla bla. I see heavies do good. I think you are using them the wrong way is all. If a sniper runs around trying to no scope you aren't gonna see him in here making threads that snipers get no love. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
114
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:50:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Heavies keep saying they suck bla bla bla. I see heavies do good. I think you are using them the wrong way is all. If a sniper runs around trying to no scope you aren't gonna see him in here making threads that snipers get no love.
I agree, the HMG does still need a little work and we def need are racial varients and more diverse weapons but overall I have no problem playing my Role as a Heavy.
Oh and speeking of No scoping did they fix that for Uprising or is it still the same? cuz that sht was FUN |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:50:00 -
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Doesn't seem to stop Mr-gunfire, and others from pubstomping in heavy suits.
The slots and bonues are not quite balanced with assult suit, but they do get a higher base HP and ability to use heavy weapons. Also heavy suits now cost the same as assult and scouts. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.17 05:57:00 -
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from the PC fights with southern legion I can tell you the game is balanced. btw good matches guys from the HAV driver you guys got better in the second match for HAVs. it all comes together pretty well. glitches sure there's a few more to work out but its going in the right way. if you base it off of pub matches then you are asking to be greifed even by your own team and all other imbalances in skill and teamwork. |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
249
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:21:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:LAVs should pose no real threat to a Good heavy, FG and AV nades are your friend
lol A FG takes forever to charge and after the HP buff, AV grenades won't save you (even if the grenade does anything at all or your idiot toon actually throws it). I'm pretty sure a starter LAV can survive a hit from a FG now, too. I'm not sure of this, though.
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Grenadez Rollack
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:22:00 -
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I'm not saying the hmg is the only thing that needs looked at. I play heavy so thats all I can speak on. I cant fly dropships. So I cantspeak on dropships. The main problem with the hmg was the range not the dmg. Range added to the slow movement speed makes Iit difficult in objective mode. I mean who actually wants to sit at one objective for the entire match. And its hard to push with no range and speed. Pub matches are easy but pc matches against a good tactical team is alot more difficult unless you play more defensively. Last build offered type 2 and b series which gave you more mobility and helped you be more aggressive. And even if you play point defense its still hard to keep the enemy suppressed. Few ppl charge with duvoulle and your done considering your turning speed and their quickness. But what I'm saying is fine if that's how you want the heavy to be cool but com on with the respec or other race variants. Btw those lav's are very powerful now. Lav zooms in from behind and before you can turn and throw a av grenade your a hood ornament. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
114
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:25:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:LAVs should pose no real threat to a Good heavy, FG and AV nades are your friend lol A FG takes forever to charge and after the HP buff, AV grenades won't save you (even if the grenade does anything at all or your idiot toon actually throws it). I'm pretty sure a starter LAV can survive a hit from a FG now, too. I'm not sure of this, though.
A proto Assualt has a Charge up time of 1.5sec not to mention the redutcion from skills, Unless you are just ignorant to your suroundings a starter LAV should be no problem for a GOOD Heavy and FG. |
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Grenadez Rollack
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:28:00 -
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I ve had alot of good games in pub matches. Gotten alot of kills. But when you got assault and logis with almost the same armor twice the speed and mobility 3 times the damage twice the range why should I say as a heavy. Just give me my respec and let me grab a proto assault with the tar and jump on the band wagon |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
249
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:30:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:
A proto Assualt has a Charge up time of 1.5sec not to mention the redutcion from skills, Unless you are just ignorant to your suroundings a starter LAV should be no problem for a GOOD Heavy and FG.
Fair enough (I miss my AFG, hurry up with the damn respec), however you agree with me on the AV grenades. They are useless now without a buff. They barely scratch vehicles now IMO.
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SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:30:00 -
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Grenadez Rollack wrote:when you got assault and logis with almost the same armor twice the speed and mobility 3 times the damage twice the range Delusional much?
Heavy suit is not for the faint of heart. Assault scrubs go that way ----> |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:31:00 -
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Grenadez Rollack wrote:I ve had alot of good games in pub matches. Gotten alot of kills. But when you got assault and logis with almost the same armor twice the speed and mobility 3 times the damage twice the range why should I say as a heavy. Just give me my respec and let me grab a proto assault with the tar and jump on the band wagon
I bailed from my heavy suit and regret it. I'm waiting on the respec so I can correct that mistake.
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Grenadez Rollack
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:34:00 -
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Dropkick you must not have noticed alot of ppl are specing into lav's now. Yea its still militia being run but its some good lav's now too. I hacked a enemy lav took dmg from a tank sped away and still survived 2 hits from swarms |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:34:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:
A proto Assualt has a Charge up time of 1.5sec not to mention the redutcion from skills, Unless you are just ignorant to your suroundings a starter LAV should be no problem for a GOOD Heavy and FG.
Fair enough (I miss my AFG, hurry up with the damn respec), however you agree with me on the AV grenades. They are useless now without a buff. They barely scratch vehicles now IMO. they toke DPS away from HAV for a general vehicle tankness buffing. can't say anything for DS but LAV are ok, maybe slightly on the OP side once skilled and fitted correctly but HAVs are as balanced as they can get, well besides speed im still mad at that but w/e. |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
114
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:36:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:
A proto Assualt has a Charge up time of 1.5sec not to mention the redutcion from skills, Unless you are just ignorant to your suroundings a starter LAV should be no problem for a GOOD Heavy and FG.
Fair enough (I miss my AFG, hurry up with the damn respec), however you agree with me on the AV grenades. They are useless now without a buff. They barely scratch vehicles now IMO.
I do agree on the AV nades, Honestly I believe the LAV buff was to counter theyr mistake on the EXO-AV nades. They know everyone that could stocked up on them and since it was theyr fualt they couldnt just take em away, SO... LAV BUFF IT IS YAY! |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:39:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Lol they rebuffed the hmgs back to being formidable. Any heavy that doesn't pack AV nades deserves to be run down by a starter fit LAV.
This, heavies are CQC you shouldn't be walking around alone or in the open at all. |
Grenadez Rollack
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
16
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:39:00 -
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Lol you probably use the lav |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
115
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Posted - 2013.05.17 06:41:00 -
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Grenadez Rollack wrote:Dropkick you must not have noticed alot of ppl are specing into lav's now. Yea its still militia being run but its some good lav's now too. I hacked a enemy lav took dmg from a tank sped away and still survived 2 hits from swarms
Iv noticed, also if Shield Tanked Swarms really shouldnt do all that much and they wer most likely Militia aswell ( and probly 0sp speccd for AV )
Im not saying that nothing needs to be done about LAVS, BUT one reason they seem even more OP atm is that no-one really specs AV. So you've got OP LAVs running around with no counters. |
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