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crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Which actively updating mmo isn't? Um I've never seen an mmo "release" with classes that have skills for weapons that won't be in the game for 6 months.
I've never seen a "release" with only 50% of it's main classes released. GW2 didn't come out with only 3 races, THAT was beta.
In fact I was in the eve online beta and they didn't release untill the races ships were at least even and sorta flushed out. We don't have minatar or amar turrets or tanks... whats up with that...
Also I've never seen an mmo come out on release with broken features just sitting in the middle of the main lobby. Map table.... |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Which actively updating mmo isn't? Um I've never seen an mmo "release" with classes that have skills for weapons that won't be in the game for 6 months. I've never seen a "release" with only 50% of it's main classes released. GW2 didn't come out with only 3 races, THAT was beta. In fact I was in the eve online beta and they didn't release untill the races ships were at least even and sorta flushed out. We don't have minatar or amar turrets or tanks... whats up with that... Also I've never seen an mmo come out on release with broken features just sitting in the middle of the main lobby. Map table.... Monk and Death Knight where not in world of warcraft at launch, Many races are still missing classes even today after 10 years. Horde had 0 paladins at launch, Allaince had no Shamans at launch.
That's completly different and you know it.
Warrior bonus to swords, oh cool where are swords? Oh sorry swords won't be coming out for 6 months please don't use that class.
Dust is very close to release quality, so very... very... close... sigh.... |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Which actively updating mmo isn't? Um I've never seen an mmo "release" with classes that have skills for weapons that won't be in the game for 6 months. I've never seen a "release" with only 50% of it's main classes released. GW2 didn't come out with only 3 races, THAT was beta. In fact I was in the eve online beta and they didn't release untill the races ships were at least even and sorta flushed out. We don't have minatar or amar turrets or tanks... whats up with that... Also I've never seen an mmo come out on release with broken features just sitting in the middle of the main lobby. Map table.... Monk and Death Knight where not in world of warcraft at launch, Many races are still missing classes even today after 10 years. Horde had 0 paladins at launch, Allaince had no Shamans at launch. That's completly different and you know it. Warrior bonus to swords, oh cool where are swords? Oh sorry swords won't be coming out for 6 months please don't use that class. Warriors can dual wield pole arms now they been in world of warcraft for some time.
So what? What does that have to do with releasing a game with bonuses that effect weapons that aren't out and won't be?
If GW2 was released with only 3 races it would of been bashed as a beta and rightly so. If you don't get that maybe you shouldn't be on the CPM.
CCP needs to release the other tanks, dropships, turrets and dropsuits asap. One heavy..... Are yo kidding it's unfair, what are going to do keep asking for respecs every build? |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.16 18:59:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Which actively updating mmo isn't? MOST IF NOT ALL
GW2 is not "beta feeling" and it still gets massive free updates every 3 months. These are expansions, not someone trying to cover up holes they dug but forgot to fill. |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:10:00 -
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Skihids wrote:So many people confuse constant expansion with a constant Beta. Beta means you haven't finished the basic platform and functionality of your product.
So if you don't have a complete set of dropsuits and weapons that points to beta.
If your vehicle mechanics are still broken, that points to beta.
If you have never managed to balance weapons, especially if that is due to not having all your basic content out yet, that points to beta.
If your shooter mechanics aren't up to par, that points to beta.
If your servers and network mechanics still cause frame rate and hit detection problems, that points to beta.
You are out of beta when the core experience is complete and performance is robust. After that you can expand on the experience. Until then you are still in beta in reality if not in name.
We are all aware that DUST was launched prematurely.
I think YOU should be on the CPM
Admitting dust needs to make a break for it and go full speed towards not being in beta is important. |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:11:00 -
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Jaron Pollard wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Isn't it? So is EVE.
Eve has been out of beta for 10 years |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:41:00 -
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The reason weapons aren't balanced is Becusse not everything is out , FACT |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:41:00 -
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Dust will be a full blown mmo, WILL BE
Exploring redzoneless planets you own for pve , with battlefields one of kind dust is more mmo than ps2. Ps2 only has 1 map, 250v250 matches, and its just a big lobby match. |
crazy space 1
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.17 04:13:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:PS4 is not the reason DUST is the way it is. Dust is made for PS3 to be ported later when its feature complete. Abandoning a solidly established platform in favor of a maybe is stupid and obviously false.
DUST is in alpha stage. It isn't feature complete, (aka, in a state where it would be totally fine and fun to play for extended periods of time if development were to stop.) It lacks a huge roster of the things that were integral to the original vision for DUST.
The protests of DUST being fine need to stop and we need to create a focus for CCP to work on and deliver QUICKLY; maps, game modes, systems like capacitor, weapons, command mode, player dropped installations, player markets, heavier PI, more vehicles and dropsuits. And thats just a basic list. The lack of any trading or playermarket is the biggest sign of this still being beta. What kind of MMO releases without any sort of ability to give your items to people.... |
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