DUST Search - Basic Light Dropsuits vs Scout?

crazy space 1 wrote:

Chojine Dentetsu wrote:

Kyle Drysden wrote:

I'm a little confused with this here. I currently run in a Minmitar Basic Light Dropsuit(the advanced) and was planning on moving into Scout Dropsuits after I capped out Minmitar Light at 5, but something kind of threw me off when doing some comparisons.

Since I run in a Minmitar suit, I compared the Prototypes of both Basic and Scout Minmitar suits, and they are, from what I can see, 100% identical. Stats and fitting are the same. Same CPU and PG, same amount of modules, same armor and shields, etc. I would expect some differences between the two, since Scout is technically a higher tier. Perhaps a better scan profile/scan range, maybe a slight increase in in CPU/PG, or an additional equipment slot/module. Both the Basic and Scout feature 3 High, 2 Low, 1 Equipment.

As I grew more curious, I decided to compare the Gallente Basic and Scout suits, and they as well are identical from one another.

Now, I just returned to Dust last week after about a 6+ month break. Last I played, we didn't have specific dropsuits like Scout or Sentinel or the like. So, maaaaaaaybe I'm missing something here, and maaaaaaaaaaaybe there's a difference between running a Basic and running a Scout, but if there is, I'm not seeing it.

Minmatar scout suits give +25% damage with nova knives.

Gallente scout suits give +10% scan range per level.

Ultimately, if you do not feel like you will use nova knives, etc., you should stay in basic suits and save the 2 million SP.

2 million? oh it's much higher than that, try 3.5 million sp tp get to prototype scout, and that's after basic light suits...

Why the basic suits aren't simply 4 skills, one for each race I will never know :/


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J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 84	Posted - 2013.05.16 18:50:00 - [1] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Chojine Dentetsu wrote: Kyle Drysden wrote: I'm a little confused with this here. I currently run in a Minmitar Basic Light Dropsuit(the advanced) and was planning on moving into Scout Dropsuits after I capped out Minmitar Light at 5, but something kind of threw me off when doing some comparisons. Since I run in a Minmitar suit, I compared the Prototypes of both Basic and Scout Minmitar suits, and they are, from what I can see, 100% identical. Stats and fitting are the same. Same CPU and PG, same amount of modules, same armor and shields, etc. I would expect some differences between the two, since Scout is technically a higher tier. Perhaps a better scan profile/scan range, maybe a slight increase in in CPU/PG, or an additional equipment slot/module. Both the Basic and Scout feature 3 High, 2 Low, 1 Equipment. As I grew more curious, I decided to compare the Gallente Basic and Scout suits, and they as well are identical from one another. Now, I just returned to Dust last week after about a 6+ month break. Last I played, we didn't have specific dropsuits like Scout or Sentinel or the like. So, maaaaaaaybe I'm missing something here, and maaaaaaaaaaaybe there's a difference between running a Basic and running a Scout, but if there is, I'm not seeing it. Minmatar scout suits give +25% damage with nova knives. Gallente scout suits give +10% scan range per level. Ultimately, if you do not feel like you will use nova knives, etc., you should stay in basic suits and save the 2 million SP. 2 million? oh it's much higher than that, try 3.5 million sp tp get to prototype scout, and that's after basic light suits... Why the basic suits aren't simply 4 skills, one for each race I will never know :/ Honestly I'd rather it work the other way around; 4 racial basic skills and one specialization skill. E.g. To skill into a Minmatar proto scout: Dropsuit Command II -+ Minmatar Light Dropsuits V -+ Scout Dropsuits V And then to skill into a Gallente proto scout, since you've already trained Scout Dropsuits V all you need is Gallente Light Dropsuits V.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 84	Posted - 2013.05.16 19:03:00 - [2] - Quote Val'herik Dorn wrote: They used to have ships that worked this way in eve but decided to instead sit them into racials. Its more in line with the prgression mechanics of eve. The suits should be different from their base suits in stats and slots but right now at this point they are not. Not quite. What they've done is restructured and split the basic skills. Essentially what we had was: Racial Frigates -+ Destroyers -+ Racial Cruisers -+ Battlecruisers -+ Racial Battleships Now we have: Racial Frigates -+ Racial Destroyers -+ Racial Cruisers -+ Racial Battlecruisers -+ Racial Battleships Tech 2 specializations remain unchanged. Assault Frigates doesn't require any Racial Frigate to 5 -- It requires Spaceship Command, Engineering, and Mechanics 5 -- so I did make a tiny mistake in my suggestion. Essentially, a comparable system in DUST would be training Dropsuit Command 5 along with some specialization relevant 'Dropsuit Upgrades' skills to 5.