DUST Search - [Feedback and Issue] Lag for Defending Corps

The Loathing wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote:

Yeah, Subdreddit had this same problem defending against Ahrendee. We had multiple guys with literally unplayable lag, and the rest of us had really awful frame rate issues.

Hmmm, no doubt that RND will just accuse you of making excuses as they did everytime people suffered unplayable lag against them in other games.

On Topic: That really sucks, I hope CCP does something about it because some of the same issues you are describing, I had in pretty much every match I played the last week (release week).

Yeah, it is bad enough to cop it in Pub matches. But in a PC match against the likes of NS and IE, latency is an absolute game breaker. Not tooting our own horn, but I feel in Infantry skirmishes we would have given them a true fight if it was actually playable for us. However, their tank game would have hung us out to dry regardless.

Make no mistake, we learnt something from that match. But it's a little hard to bring a fight to a rubber band fest.

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The Loathing The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 60	Posted - 2013.05.16 16:45:00 - [1] - Quote This evening our Corp took on Nyain San to defend our District. As far as we are aware Nyain San are based in Japan and are on different servers to us here in Australia/New Zealand. Firstly, well done to NS for the very advanced tactics and incredible battle they brought to us. You guys are a force to be reckoned with. Also to the two Internal Error participants, well done. This thread is in no way an excuse for TSOLE's loss as NS's tactics were superior in this instance. However, the lag we suffered in the battle was BEYOND playable. The majority of our players all experienced the worst lag we have ever had and for most of the game we were not aware of the damage we were taking or our actual location on the battlefield until seconds after the fact. Multiple times I found myself facing walls I didn't turn to or amongst enemies that were 10-20 metres away from me in the last frame. I was under the impression that matchmaking picked a server that was the best for both parties. Either way, if one team must face lag it should not be the defenders. Defenders do not get to opt out of an attack and have gained the district under their own steam. The attackers choose to take on the District owners and therefore should meet them on their terms and playing field. Please fix this situation CCP as AU/NZ will not be able to compete if we must concede to lag every PC battle unless it is against other Oceania opponents. This is a serious issue and we were handicapped in that match from the start regardless of who we were versing.
The Loathing The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 62	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:53:00 - [2] - Quote Have any defenders experienced severe lag that has created a loss?
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 83	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:11:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah, Subdreddit had this same problem defending against Ahrendee. We had multiple guys with literally unplayable lag, and the rest of us had really awful frame rate issues.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 173	Posted - 2013.05.17 00:10:00 - [4] - Quote ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: Yeah, Subdreddit had this same problem defending against Ahrendee. We had multiple guys with literally unplayable lag, and the rest of us had really awful frame rate issues. Hmmm, no doubt that RND will just accuse you of making excuses as they did everytime people suffered unplayable lag against them in other games. On Topic: That really sucks, I hope CCP does something about it because some of the same issues you are describing, I had in pretty much every match I played the last week (release week).
The Loathing The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 63	Posted - 2013.05.17 00:30:00 - [5] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: Yeah, Subdreddit had this same problem defending against Ahrendee. We had multiple guys with literally unplayable lag, and the rest of us had really awful frame rate issues. Hmmm, no doubt that RND will just accuse you of making excuses as they did everytime people suffered unplayable lag against them in other games. On Topic: That really sucks, I hope CCP does something about it because some of the same issues you are describing, I had in pretty much every match I played the last week (release week). Yeah, it is bad enough to cop it in Pub matches. But in a PC match against the likes of NS and IE, latency is an absolute game breaker. Not tooting our own horn, but I feel in Infantry skirmishes we would have given them a true fight if it was actually playable for us. However, their tank game would have hung us out to dry regardless. Make no mistake, we learnt something from that match. But it's a little hard to bring a fight to a rubber band fest.
ALM1GHTY B44L R00 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 83	Posted - 2013.05.17 00:40:00 - [6] - Quote The Loathing wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: Yeah, Subdreddit had this same problem defending against Ahrendee. We had multiple guys with literally unplayable lag, and the rest of us had really awful frame rate issues. Hmmm, no doubt that RND will just accuse you of making excuses as they did everytime people suffered unplayable lag against them in other games. On Topic: That really sucks, I hope CCP does something about it because some of the same issues you are describing, I had in pretty much every match I played the last week (release week). Yeah, it is bad enough to cop it in Pub matches. But in a PC match against the likes of NS and IE, latency is an absolute game breaker. Not tooting our own horn, but I feel in Infantry skirmishes we would have given them a true fight if it was actually playable for us. However, their tank game would have hung us out to dry regardless. Make no mistake, we learnt something from that match. But it's a little hard to bring a fight to a rubber band fest. Agreed. From what I could tell, they are a good corp, but the low frame rate and their guys rubber banding around (or just being plain old invisible) made their win pretty much a foregone conclusion. We really had no choice but to sit the battle out after a few deaths just to save some clones from being wasted. It's a bummer too, because from what we could see, they seem to have great teamwork and had a solid plan. It would have been nice to have had a real fight with them. I'm assuming they are an EU corp?
Protected Void One-Armed Bandits 7	Posted - 2013.05.17 08:30:00 - [7] - Quote We (One-armed Bandits) were defending a district against Red Star yesterday, and we also had horrible lag issues, the whole team. One of the squad leaders also got kicked. I don't know if they had lag issues - I'm pretty sure they would've beat us anyway - but it would've been nice to actually have a proper match instead of, say: - First frame: Hey, there's an enemy covering behind that stack of crates over there, let me point my gun at him so I can... *game freezes for a second or two* - Next frame: BAM, the same enemy just headshot me from behind This type of thing happened repeatedly, and whenever there was anyone else than just me around. I tried spawning way out in the sticks, and then the frame rate was acceptable. As soon as I approached other players on either team, the lag set in again.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2013.05.17 09:31:00 - [8] - Quote Have a look at this thread and report your experiences as detailed as possible maybe that way CCP can find a way to make PC work better for all of us.
Evil-Stuffed-Animal Ahrendee Mercenaries 21	Posted - 2013.05.17 18:49:00 - [9] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: Yeah, Subdreddit had this same problem defending against Ahrendee. We had multiple guys with literally unplayable lag, and the rest of us had really awful frame rate issues. Hmmm, no doubt that RND will just accuse you of making excuses as they did everytime people suffered unplayable lag against them in other games. On Topic: That really sucks, I hope CCP does something about it because some of the same issues you are describing, I had in pretty much every match I played the last week (release week). RND (Ahrendee) has nothing but respect for Subdreddit & co.. We expect nothing less than a good fight from those guys every time we shall meet on the battlefield. Every match will be taken seriously because the win could go to either side. There is no need to accuse anyone (or corp) in this game of making excuses because it is understood that CCP has noobs coding the game, therefore, issues are bound to be plentiful.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 1268	Posted - 2013.05.19 06:00:00 - [10] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: Yeah, Subdreddit had this same problem defending against Ahrendee. We had multiple guys with literally unplayable lag, and the rest of us had really awful frame rate issues. Hmmm, no doubt that RND will just accuse you of making excuses as they did everytime people suffered unplayable lag against them in other games. On Topic: That really sucks, I hope CCP does something about it because some of the same issues you are describing, I had in pretty much every match I played the last week (release week). Do you know us from somewhere? If they said that they had lag and framerate issues, then that's just what happened. Because some of our guys experienced it as well and that's the reason why I sat out the first match against Subdreddit. Always has to be some crab talking ish and spreading lies all over the place.

Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 598	Posted - 2013.05.19 06:30:00 - [11] - Quote I appreciate that, I don't think that most corps out there would pass up a chance to do some chest beating. I hope they can resolve these problems quickly. I was looking forward to some challenging, entertaining fights from you guys. What I got was an experience that turned me so off from conquest battles that I actually played eve the last two nights. I was actually more interested in flying a stealth bomber while watching people repair a tower than I was in playing Dust.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 179	Posted - 2013.05.19 19:09:00 - [12] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: ALM1GHTY B44L R00 wrote: Yeah, Subdreddit had this same problem defending against Ahrendee. We had multiple guys with literally unplayable lag, and the rest of us had really awful frame rate issues. Hmmm, no doubt that RND will just accuse you of making excuses as they did everytime people suffered unplayable lag against them in other games. On Topic: That really sucks, I hope CCP does something about it because some of the same issues you are describing, I had in pretty much every match I played the last week (release week). Do you know us from somewhere? If they said that they had lag and framerate issues, then that's just what happened. Because some of our guys experienced it as well and that's the reason why I sat out the first match against Subdreddit. Always has to be some crab talking ish and spreading lies all over the place. They're not lies despite your attempt to paint them as such. Here's links to allegations. http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/MAG-Discussion/RND-LAG-S/m-p/36362771/highlight/true#M846640 Here's a thread where you plainly state that you get called a lagger "everytime" you kill someone http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/MAG-Discussion/Why-do-people-h8-RND/m-p/36326191#M842949 http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/MAG-Discussion/Why-do-people-h8-RND/m-p/36326192#M842950 http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/MAG-Discussion/Why-do-people-h8-RND/m-p/36326193#M842951 I only linked three posts from that thread, it is 17 pages of people complaining about RND lagging interspersed with RND fanboys standing up saying they don't or that everyone does. Hell, there are even RND fanboys who admit that you all lag like a *****. So, where did I lie??
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 1281	Posted - 2013.05.19 19:48:00 - [13] - Quote ROFLMAO...man, how do you have those threads on speed dial like that? Either way, those threads are people complaining about lag. Those final days of MAG was a lagfest....we experienced it just the same like everyone else. But calling us out for lagging just made those players feel good about themselves if they were getting smoked. We were accused of creating cheating software, microwaving our MAG cds (that was truly funny), I even read a guy that said that he played with us and we told him that we had all sorts of programs that helped us to cheat and lag. Do you see where I'm going? Either way, framerate issues in Dust is a real thing and if Subdreddit said they had it, then they had it.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 179	Posted - 2013.05.19 19:53:00 - [14] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ROFLMAO...man, how do you have those threads on speed dial like that? Either way, those threads are people complaining about lag. Those final days of MAG was a lagfest....we experienced it just the same like everyone else. But calling us out for lagging just made those players feel good about themselves if they were getting smoked. We were accused of creating cheating software, microwaving our MAG cds (that was truly funny), I even read a guy that said that he played with us and we told him that we had all sorts of programs that helped us to cheat and lag. Do you see where I'm going? Either way, framerate issues in Dust is a real thing and if Subdreddit said they had it, then they had it. So, they were saying that RND were lagging and you're plainly stating that they were oh, what is the phrase I am looking for? Making excuses? Does that sound about right?
Xubber II The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.05.19 20:46:00 - [15] - Quote Bump Just lag/framerate on any sever is bad. I really dont like running around on our local severs all the time and stomping the few players on because if we go any were else the game play is not the same.
ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 173	Posted - 2013.05.19 21:09:00 - [16] - Quote Its not just you buddy... PC is hardly playable atm for a lot of people. (I play on 480p now cause its the only way this game is even somewhat playable) Ill shut my console down 30m before the battle starts, and then sit in my merc quarters until it starts (no battles before PC). Get everything ready and hop into the match. Even at 480p im probably getting 10fps.. if that, it makes aiming practically impossible... and hit detection? lulz Then after PC match is over, I immediately jump into an instant battle match just to see and sure enough look at that.. normal framerates again... smooth as butter. Its purely an issue with PC... no idea why... but its practically unplayable every time I go in.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 1283	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:26:00 - [17] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ROFLMAO...man, how do you have those threads on speed dial like that? Either way, those threads are people complaining about lag. Those final days of MAG was a lagfest....we experienced it just the same like everyone else. But calling us out for lagging just made those players feel good about themselves if they were getting smoked. We were accused of creating cheating software, microwaving our MAG cds (that was truly funny), I even read a guy that said that he played with us and we told him that we had all sorts of programs that helped us to cheat and lag. Do you see where I'm going? Either way, framerate issues in Dust is a real thing and if Subdreddit said they had it, then they had it. So, they were saying that RND were lagging and you're plainly stating that they were oh, what is the phrase I am looking for? Making excuses? Does that sound about right? You know what..."lies" was never the right word. Propaganda is actually the better word. You're saying that we would tell Subdreddit that they are making excuses because people in MAG did the same thing. And I'm saying, that if Subdreddit had those problems then they had those problems. I feel bad that they couldn't defend their district well because of it but I'm not handing the district back either. My whole issue with you is that your statement was uncalled for. Bringing up MAG ** as if it matters anymore. Stop holding on to that ** and move on.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 775	Posted - 2013.05.19 22:47:00 - [18] - Quote In the battles I played in, the lag very noticeably kicked in when fighting inside of certain built up complexes. It also vaporized upon leaving the complex. Fighting at exterior objectives was as nearly smooth as a pub match. I was also thinking it may be caused by our players being all over the planet, but I don't seem to get lag when playing pub matches with our Australian members, so I'm thinking the problems are with PC and the maps themselves.
Xubber II The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.05.20 01:30:00 - [19] - Quote bump
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 606	Posted - 2013.05.20 01:54:00 - [20] - Quote I just tried playing in 480p in a conquest match. It was much more playable. Ugly as sin though, and when I went ADS on my TAR the guys I were aiming at were blurry shadows...but I wasn't stuttering all over the place at least.



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