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Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 495	Posted - 2013.05.15 23:38:00 - [1] - Quote Um, not really. CCP doesn't set the prices on PSN, Sony does. CCP can't dictate the price that Sony put up, but you CAN ask that CCP talk to Sony about it. Or go straight to Sony about the price discrepancy.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 497	Posted - 2013.05.15 23:54:00 - [2] - Quote konas gut wrote: So CCP want to sell a new item or pack on the store, they give it to Sony to set the price. I doubt it very much. How would Sony know the in game value? What if Sony decided it was a rubbish gun/pack and set it to 50 cents would CCP agree? Total and utter FUD They can give Sony a quoted price range for each product, or leave it up to Sony's marketing and sales departments to price it themselves. Either way, CCP doesn't have the infrastructure nor knowledge to set region-specific prices, in accordance to local tax and sales laws. Sony does.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 500	Posted - 2013.05.16 00:09:00 - [3] - Quote The price discrepancy IS with Sony. Australia in general is expensive in comparison to everywhere else in the world. Most people can't afford a simple holiday there, which is why people take working holidays. As stated, CCP charge users all over the world the same amount: $19.99. Or roughly that, anyway. The only change in product management here is the product has to go through Sony before reaching the consumer. Sony feels free to add any other surcharge they wish on top of the price, due to any costs incurred by Sony by having servers in that specific region. Whether these costs are so high, are, of course, a matter for debate. But, basically, CCP isn't to blame in this case.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 500	Posted - 2013.05.16 00:14:00 - [4] - Quote Otrera Goddess wrote: Yes the game is free and I appreciate that very much and yes buying stuff is optional but as those who play online multiplayer pvp games know it is all of those extras that are paid for that can make a difference. They are an advantage and to provide somebody a greater advantage by making items cheaper to them in a digital context is just plain wrong and unfair. There are not people working in a factory making these items one at a time, once the digital item has been made it can then be created or copied and infinite amount of time digitally at no cost. Wrong. There are costs with running the servers, both at CCP's end and Sony's end, there are wages to pay for IT staff and maintenance of the servers, there's the cost of keeping the ISP to provide you the ability to download/purchase those services, etc. As for gaining an advantage, Aurum allows you to "do more faster". It isn't intended as a P2W mechanic, but instead as a "get there faster" mechanic. All aurum gear provides no benefits over other gear apart from lower requirements.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 503	Posted - 2013.05.16 00:30:00 - [5] - Quote konas gut wrote: The reason you are here today playing dust is because CCP listened to the players and made changes to the game they played after player outrage and forum posting. You should thank those who stood of for what they believed in for this game! Are you trying to imply that we did nothing to contribute to this game? Judging by your number of likes, you've literally only just joined the game. Judging by this thread, you've only just noticed this discrepancy, despite it being brought up a few months ago and the same conclusion was found. Judging by your responses, you have no clue how CCP reacts to any kind of player feedback. In effect, you're trying to tell players who have had this discussion before, who have been here for over nine months, who know how CCP work, how CCP work and how it's their fault that Sony have overpriced their goods, and how YOU want to deal with it, and acting the outraged consumer. I can guarantee that most people in this thread have contributed more to this game than you have. Don't act like we aren't looking out for the good of the game. Otrera Goddess wrote: I have worked with in the IT industry in Australia now for more than 15 years and believe me I know about the costs. But the wages being paid to the people who are doing these types of services over here are not that much higher than somebody who is just working at a local electronics store. I would assume that in America these jobs would pay even less so that is no justification to me and just a plain cop out. Indeed, but you need to remember startup costs aswell, including paying the marketing, sales, HR and legal departments, as well as any reserve fund for any urgent maintenance and any crucial investment (i.e. for new servers). Bear in mind this doesn't account for price discrepancy, but I'm merely pointing out that any digital content isn't "free" to reproduce, as there are costs in maintaining such digital content that cannot be simply discarded.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 503	Posted - 2013.05.16 00:32:00 - [6] - Quote konas gut wrote: Proof CCP does control the price from another post "This was the ccp response to my petition asking about the price differences 2013.05.15 10:26:00 GM Avantgarde Hello, We can understand why you would like a clarification over the price of Merc Pack in different countries. Once we set the price on a game, SONY then would localise the price for each country based on local currency and taxes. Please accept our sincere apologies and we thank you for the understanding. If we could be your assistance on any DUST 514 issue in the future, please contact us again. Best Regards, GM Avantgarde CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514" Your own quote, straight back at ya.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 505	Posted - 2013.05.16 00:41:00 - [7] - Quote konas gut wrote: So are we both wrong or right? You're wrong. CCP set the price, send it off to the middle-man (Sony), who then sets a further price to take a cut based on the region you're in. It's like the difference between buying wholesale and buying retail. If you go straight to the manufacturers, well, at least in the UK, you can buy a can of coke for about 35p. If you go to a local convenience store, it's likely to set you back 75-80p. Yes, a markup of 40p, simply because you're buying from a middleman. In essence, CCP sets a base price for all regions. Sony then puts a surcharge on it in accordance with local laws and their own ability to make money. Don't blame CCP, blame Sony.

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