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Judge Rhadamanthus
Kapow Heavy Industries
110
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:06:00 -
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I mean really. aV grenades that can be carried by a Proto suit, proto weapon infantry specialist can decimate a tank. Or a drop ship. We have people who are the best infantry killers by gear they can be, but at the same time carry enough AV grenades to do 4500. Damage to a tank, or kill a drop ship in two throws.
it. Is a joke. It is bad. It is shameful.
I fly. And I love the Dev that made drop ships. It's fun, they handle like real objects, they can do harm and they can fail. but the world they live in is too hostile. forge guns are OHK masters, AI turrets shoot across the map, red line railgun tanks snipers hit us for 2 x our EHP.
so I ask the Dev who code Drop ships, please help us. Come talk to us, not in irc or here on the forum but in voice chat in game. I ask the Devs to speak to me, and other mature pilots in a private chat channel. Hear us. Please. |
Boxoffire
Lost-Legion
Orion Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:14:00 -
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Then use a proto tank? They spent their hard earned SP on AV equipment. If you don't do he same with your vehicles don't be surprised if they completely own you.
Also there is a good amount of skill involved. A vehicle pilot/driver, you should really use the environment toy our advantage. Try avoiding tight spaces really easy for infantry to take cover and avoid your attacks. |
CharCharOdell
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:14:00 -
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Av is op. +1
Buff our PG, CCP! |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
240
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:16:00 -
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Did you miss the part about drop ships? |
CharCharOdell
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:16:00 -
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Boxoffire wrote:Then use a proto tank? They spent their hard earned SP on AV equipment. If you don't do he same with your vehicles don't be surprised if they completely own you.
Also there is a good amount of skill involved. A vehicle pilot/driver, you should really use the environment toy our advantage. Try avoiding tight spaces really easy for infantry to take cover and avoid your attacks.
Do you even tank, bro?
You don't obvi BC no tanker would tell anyone to use an enforcer to live longer.
Buff PG, CCP! |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
711
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:19:00 -
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Only reason the enforcer / standard tanks survive atm is that people didn't find it necessary to spec into AV.
Once you face some properly fitted/specced AV guys it's not even about the team, just one guy can force you to stay out-of-sight the whole battle. |
CharCharOdell
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
58
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:20:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Only reason the enforcer / standard tanks survive atm is that people didn't find it necessary to spec into AV.
Once you face some properly fitted/specced AV guys it's not even about the team, just one guy can force you to stay out-of-sight the whole battle.
Yup. Av is op. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1640
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:26:00 -
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AV nades need nerfing, that's a fact. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
406
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:46:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Only reason the enforcer / standard tanks survive atm is that people didn't find it necessary to spec into AV.
Once you face some properly fitted/specced AV guys it's not even about the team, just one guy can force you to stay out-of-sight the whole battle. Yup. Av is op.
yup and the guy who suggested proto tanks... you should be beaten, you clearly have no clue what you are saying. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
League of Infamy
404
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:50:00 -
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Buff dropships.
Don't scoot about in your tank thinking that you can one-man-army the other team the whole match.... |
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Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
281
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:54:00 -
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gbghg wrote:AV nades need nerfing, that's a fact.
Fine, lower the damage. However, then one AV nade blows the track off your sitting duck. 
Also, why do tankers keep hijacking DS threads? |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
3
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:55:00 -
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Buff dropships, leave AV. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
337
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:56:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I mean really. aV grenades that can be carried by a Proto suit, proto weapon infantry specialist can decimate a tank. Or a drop ship. We have people who are the best infantry killers by gear they can be, but at the same time carry enough AV grenades to do 4500. Damage to a tank, or kill a drop ship in two throws.
it. Is a joke. It is bad. It is shameful.
I fly. And I love the Dev that made drop ships. It's fun, they handle like real objects, they can do harm and they can fail. but the world they live in is too hostile. forge guns are OHK masters, AI turrets shoot across the map, red line railgun tanks snipers hit us for 2 x our EHP.
so I ask the Dev who code Drop ships, please help us. Come talk to us, not in irc or here on the forum but in voice chat in game. I ask the Devs to speak to me, and other mature pilots in a private chat channel. Hear us. Please.
Don't listen to him! It's a tarp! |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
68
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:07:00 -
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Boxoffire wrote:Then use a proto tank? They spent their hard earned SP on AV equipment. If you don't do he same with your vehicles don't be surprised if they completely own you.
Also there is a good amount of skill involved. A vehicle pilot/driver, you should really use the environment toy our advantage. Try avoiding tight spaces really easy for infantry to take cover and avoid your attacks.
In terms of 1v1 of how it should at least be.
2 Proto AV=1 Proto grade HAV (I don't think there are any proto tanks, but grade for equivalent level[not power]) , Proto AV=advanced HAV, 2 Advanced AV or more= advanced HAV, many militia AV=advanced HAV+, militia HAV= multiple AV and up.
"Then use a proto tank? They spent their hard earned SP on AV equipment." Tankers use their hard earned SP on vehicle equipment that adds up to more than 4x as much as an AV user. NOT to mention ISK.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1640
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:08:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:gbghg wrote:AV nades need nerfing, that's a fact. Fine, lower the damage. However, then one AV nade blows the track off your sitting duck. Also, why do tankers keep hijacking DS threads?
I don't know, I'm a dropship pilot. |
JX1
Goonfeet
22
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:10:00 -
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"I can't stay in the range of enemy weaponry without taking a beating while flying my dropship like it was the yet to be implemented jet fighter/bomber craft (which will be even more vulnerable), so please make AV weaker" |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
406
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:14:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:gbghg wrote:AV nades need nerfing, that's a fact. Fine, lower the damage. However, then one AV nade blows the track off your sitting duck. Also, why do tankers keep hijacking DS threads?
its started as a tank thread? |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:14:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Full Metal Kitten wrote:gbghg wrote:AV nades need nerfing, that's a fact. Fine, lower the damage. However, then one AV nade blows the track off your sitting duck. Also, why do tankers keep hijacking DS threads? I don't know, I'm a dropship pilot.
Ok, I deserved that. Let me make it up to you: http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ |
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