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Orin the Freak Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 617	Posted - 2013.05.15 12:52:00 - [61] - Quote You know... I hear there are also actual mercenary corps (groups of them, even) out there willing to take/defend... for a price. I also hear a few of them are actually pretty reliable. <---
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1055	Posted - 2013.05.15 12:53:00 - [62] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: As for small and medum sized corps maybe be able to put up a resistance for a short amount of time but overall would get done over by attrition How? Keep attacking, and they keep defending. They lose, maybe give up, and another Corp takes their place soon after. If anyone's going to lose the war of attrition, it won't be the small Corps. There will always be more of them. If they are the defenders against an alliance they have been booted out of they would most likely lose, i say most likely but they can pro long the war and may even win a few battles, all depends on the corp itself but defending against an alliance will take its toll As attackers its the ISK which is the main problem, if they are backed up by wealthy investors then sure they can keep it up but if they keep losing then its not worth it, plus they can always go for the weaker parts of the alliance but remember corps can get ringers in then again would the stronger corps want to do this if that corp cannot hold its own **** together Time will tell but all you need is 16ppl
Orin the Freak Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 618	Posted - 2013.05.15 13:03:00 - [63] - Quote Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: What everyone needs to realize is that this game isn't meant to have "small" corps. The capacity is in the thousands for a reason. The fact that people are finally realizing that small corps aren't the way to go should encourage the CEOs of small corps to negotiate with other CEOs for a merge. Its perfectly fine that small corps can't get a foot hold in Planetary Conquest. I think you mean "Alliance". No one has to drop their corps identity to be a part of something greater. Small corps have just as much right, and ability to hold districts as anyone else. Certainly you won't be seeing many startups holding 15 districts, but one or two is not at all impossible. Especially if they have strong allies... or hire someone who can get the job done for them.
Sponglyboy Squaredoo Not Guilty EoN. 51	Posted - 2013.05.15 13:10:00 - [64] - Quote Orin the Freak wrote: Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: What everyone needs to realize is that this game isn't meant to have "small" corps. The capacity is in the thousands for a reason. The fact that people are finally realizing that small corps aren't the way to go should encourage the CEOs of small corps to negotiate with other CEOs for a merge. Its perfectly fine that small corps can't get a foot hold in Planetary Conquest. I think you mean "Alliance". No one has to drop their corps identity to be a part of something greater. Small corps have just as much right, and ability to hold districts as anyone else. Certainly you won't be seeing many startups holding 15 districts, but one or two is not at all impossible. Especially if they have strong allies... or hire someone who can get the job done for them. Exactly. An alliance would also prove my point.
Gregor stormwalker Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 19	Posted - 2013.05.15 13:46:00 - [65] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: As for small and medum sized corps maybe be able to put up a resistance for a short amount of time but overall would get done over by attrition How? Keep attacking, and they keep defending. They lose, maybe give up, and another Corp takes their place soon after. If anyone's going to lose the war of attrition, it won't be the small Corps. There will always be more of them. this is true i used to play a browser based mmo called mechwarz about 10 years ago now (god that was a long time ago) from what i remember the developers changed a rule that ment that top players could not compliantly destroy lower level players (basically you had a building that made you money every hour and before the update you could steal them all but it was change so you could not take them down to less than 50) all the top clans added a protest word to the end to there names and allied together against the developers. in response almost every small corp joined force in a counter movement and DESTROYED the top corps they where under attack 24 hours a day for a week the protest failed and the new rule stood
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1657	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:10:00 - [66] - Quote Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: Orin the Freak wrote: Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: What everyone needs to realize is that this game isn't meant to have "small" corps. The capacity is in the thousands for a reason. The fact that people are finally realizing that small corps aren't the way to go should encourage the CEOs of small corps to negotiate with other CEOs for a merge. Its perfectly fine that small corps can't get a foot hold in Planetary Conquest. I think you mean "Alliance". No one has to drop their corps identity to be a part of something greater. Small corps have just as much right, and ability to hold districts as anyone else. Certainly you won't be seeing many startups holding 15 districts, but one or two is not at all impossible. Especially if they have strong allies... or hire someone who can get the job done for them. Exactly. An alliance would also prove my point. Lol FSC.
Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 159	Posted - 2013.05.15 14:14:00 - [67] - Quote PFBHz will take down pretty much anyone, if you pay us enough.
M3DIC 2U Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:07:00 - [68] - Quote Veritas Vitae wrote: PFBHz will take down pretty much anyone, if you pay us enough. Even yourselves
xDORAx Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:21:00 - [69] - Quote I know good information if someone is willing to pay for it
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 129	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:24:00 - [70] - Quote Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: Orin the Freak wrote: Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: What everyone needs to realize is that this game isn't meant to have "small" corps. The capacity is in the thousands for a reason. The fact that people are finally realizing that small corps aren't the way to go should encourage the CEOs of small corps to negotiate with other CEOs for a merge. Its perfectly fine that small corps can't get a foot hold in Planetary Conquest. I think you mean "Alliance". No one has to drop their corps identity to be a part of something greater. Small corps have just as much right, and ability to hold districts as anyone else. Certainly you won't be seeing many startups holding 15 districts, but one or two is not at all impossible. Especially if they have strong allies... or hire someone who can get the job done for them. Exactly. An alliance would also prove my point. I should probably look into this...

Orin the Freak Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 626	Posted - 2013.05.15 15:25:00 - [71] - Quote M3DIC 2U wrote: Veritas Vitae wrote: PFBHz will take down pretty much anyone, if you pay us enough. Even yourselves If you need an answer to that question, assuming it was a a question (no punctuation), then you should probably be childproofing your house, if you haven't already. But since you were obviously trolling... .. the answer is still, "you're special". Not Superman special, Simple Jack special. TH-TH-TH-Thanks for T-T-T-Trying.
ca ronic Moffit Bros 10	Posted - 2013.05.15 16:04:00 - [72] - Quote I am going to try and attack with hired mecs. May be a stupid idea. Will attack whatever looks vulnerable, dont care which alliance it is. If i actually take a district then try to make some informal alliance with neighbors. Only ha Meildolf is under attack, whats up with that?
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 450	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:00:00 - [73] - Quote Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: What everyone needs to realize is that this game isn't meant to have "small" corps. The capacity is in the thousands for a reason. The fact that people are finally realizing that small corps aren't the way to go should encourage the CEOs of small corps to negotiate with other CEOs for a merge. Its perfectly fine that small corps can't get a foot hold in Planetary Conquest. Precisely
xLTShinySidesx UNOBTANIUM INC General Tso's Alliance 59	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:17:00 - [74] - Quote gbghg wrote: Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: Orin the Freak wrote: Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote: What everyone needs to realize is that this game isn't meant to have "small" corps. The capacity is in the thousands for a reason. The fact that people are finally realizing that small corps aren't the way to go should encourage the CEOs of small corps to negotiate with other CEOs for a merge. Its perfectly fine that small corps can't get a foot hold in Planetary Conquest. I think you mean "Alliance". No one has to drop their corps identity to be a part of something greater. Small corps have just as much right, and ability to hold districts as anyone else. Certainly you won't be seeing many startups holding 15 districts, but one or two is not at all impossible. Especially if they have strong allies... or hire someone who can get the job done for them. Exactly. An alliance would also prove my point. Lol FSC. FSC under (general tso's alliance) currently has two districts, both are under attack... We will be alright
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 252	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:25:00 - [75] - Quote Thanks guys! Such an awesome service :) I wonder if they will allow war reporters at some point to come in a d observe and later stream battles? I think someone at CCP mentioned having battle field roles that weren't necessarily combat oriented.. but that it woudl eb a trade off as it would take a spot of a soldier.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 933	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:41:00 - [76] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: And so begins the Blue Donut of Dust. Several of us predicted it. Notice how few alliances are represented in this list. Those are the Kaijus and Monsters. All of Molden Heath will belong to them in a matter of a week or two. Keep an eye on the Starmap. I think you'll be surprised. I hope so. I hope so. As near as I can figure, Dust PC was supposed to be a crowbar to tear apart the Blue Donut of EVE. If we can't keep it from happening in Dust...
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 933	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:44:00 - [77] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: Marston VC wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: And so begins the Blue Donut of Dust. Several of us predicted it. Notice how few alliances are represented in this list. Those are the Kaijus and Monsters. All of Molden Heath will belong to them in a matter of a week or two. LOL at blue donut theory....... It could easily happen Alliances get big enough to control the planets, if 2 are as big as each other then can just hold off and not bother with war while all corps decide to get rich and split up the planets equally Maybe the odd fights here and ther when some corps get ejected from alliances if it happens Smaller corps wont have a chance of getting space unless they agree to a renting agreement Everyone gets rich, PC is boring and no wars Bingo. That's essentially what happened in EVE. After a few weeks of "OMG! OMG! OMG!" the corps with the largest amount of districts will start to negotiate Non-Aggression Pacts (NAPs) with each other because their players are getting burnt out. Once that happens, they will instead focus on crushing the smaller corps to solidify their positions. Then, it's NAP time.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 171	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:52:00 - [78] - Quote Numbers dont mean as much in DUST though. An elite group of 16 could hold onto quite a bit of land and profit from it compared to a big group of 200 mediocre players.
Er'ith Minour SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3	Posted - 2013.05.17 00:42:00 - [79] - Quote [/quote] Bingo. That's essentially what happened in EVE. After a few weeks of "OMG! OMG! OMG!" the corps with the largest amount of districts will start to negotiate Non-Aggression Pacts (NAPs) with each other because their players are getting burnt out. Once that happens, they will instead focus on crushing the smaller corps to solidify their positions. Then, it's NAP time.[/quote] Maybe, but I assume that at some point in the future, we will have access to OTHER planets in different places. If CCP is smart they will wait for the sort of lull in the action you guys are talking about and then open up another district or five for us to fight over. Then all those big rich corps can spend all that easy earned loot on shipping clones out for the next big set of fights. Maybe.
Matakage WildCard Ninja Clan 71	Posted - 2013.05.17 00:51:00 - [80] - Quote It would be really cool if this information was put on some charts and graphs and shared with everyone.

Uber Prime Delta Enterprise 1	Posted - 2013.05.17 14:28:00 - [81] - Quote What are you - some sort of photographer?
im420Friendly The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.05.19 04:20:00 - [82] - Quote The Info Broker wrote: War Reporter wrote: The Info Broker wrote: War Reporter wrote: Icy Xenosmilus wrote: Zion vs Unholy Legion of Dark star, all districts under attack. which constellation? I think we should pool our efforts it seems like we are both going to spend a lot of time making the same thing. sounds like a plan save us both some time and maybe put information out faster Send me an email at [email protected] if you have gmail we can talk there otherwise send me Skype info so we can chat about what we want to track and report and how we should go about it. If you want to check out my past updates just go to dustreports.com, that will bring you to my most up to date work. thats cool guys thx ill be following your updates close!!!!
SoLJae ZionTCD Unclaimed. 413	Posted - 2013.05.21 14:05:00 - [83] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: I just hope Zion isn't to comfy on our planet ^^, always feel bad maing some who is settled shift ^^ Yeah, how did that work out for y'all, Coleman? ;-)) We love our new home!
bigolenuts KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.05.21 14:29:00 - [84] - Quote THanks to the guys that are putting time into this by letting everyone know what is going on. Who is fighting who, who seems to be doing what and where. Good stuff. Old guys like me just stare at the star map with that 1,000 yard stare and slobber a little bit lol... Thanks for what you have done and what you will do.. PFBHz are blue with us by the way. Not sure if someone else stated it or not.


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