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trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:42:00 -
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Idea: attack friendly district in PC to lock it down spam merc pack bpo LAV, friend shoots LAV for SP and ISK amplify above with 16 players on opposing sides teamed to do it
Should generate weeks SP in RDV kills, isk in LAV kills.
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trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
411
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:43:00 -
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The ground troops participating can fit minmatar logistics for hack speed and spam hack a supply depot every 5 seconds during the match for days worth of SP. |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:45:00 -
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Rdvs need to start costing players isk, or at least in PC they should. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors Reverberation Project
455
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:45:00 -
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I don't think there is any isk given out based on things destroyed...could be wrong. IF you are doing this to farm SP, you'd basically be doing it at a cost of 150 clones to someone. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:46:00 -
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Costs roughly 80mil to attack another district. Unless it was your neighbor on the same planet in which case you could just transfer 20 clones for an attack to do this at which point it might be worthwhile. Is that allowed? Which would NEVER happen.
They have stated they've tried to balance it so it is never worthwhile to attack yourself to gain ISK. Kind of like the old corp contracts that had a 1.9mil payout and a 1mil buy in for each side. |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:46:00 -
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last I heard SP was not given out in corp matches |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1420
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:46:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:Idea: attack friendly district in PC to lock it down spam merc pack bpo LAV, friend shoots LAV for SP and ISK amplify above with 16 players on opposing sides teamed to do it
Should generate weeks SP in RDV kills, isk in LAV kills.
he has a different avatar! GET HIM!!!! |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
481
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:51:00 -
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Yeah, this could happen but would be pointless and achieve nothing. Isn't isk based entirely from clones destroyed? And when you can be grinding for SP in normal matches, why would you bother doing it in matches that actually matter? This is no more point-worthy than all the self-locking stuff we went through so many times before.
You've also got to take into account what effect making PC boring will have on morale in your corp. You really think your members will be happy to grind away in pub matches only to do even less in PC, where the matches could actually feel somewhat meaningful? Good way to keep your corp intact ;) |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
481
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:52:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:last I heard SP was not given out in corp matches You heard wrong. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
481
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:53:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Costs roughly 80mil to attack another district. Unless it was your neighbor on the same planet in which case you could just transfer 20 clones for an attack to do this at which point it might be worthwhile. Is that allowed? Which would NEVER happen.
They have stated they've tried to balance it so it is never worthwhile to attack yourself to gain ISK. Kind of like the old corp contracts that had a 1.9mil payout and a 1mil buy in for each side. Minimum attack is 150 clones. |
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Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
102
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:54:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Thor Thunder Fist wrote:last I heard SP was not given out in corp matches You heard wrong.
I don't think I heard wrong. things might have been changed without telling people oh wait I think it's that one cause CCP does that a lot...... |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
481
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:03:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:Django Quik wrote:Thor Thunder Fist wrote:last I heard SP was not given out in corp matches You heard wrong. I don't think I heard wrong. things might have been changed without telling people oh wait I think it's that one cause CCP does that a lot...... Nah, you definitely heard wrong. PC has always been supposed to have SP. It was old corp matches back before Uprising that had no SP reward. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
411
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:11:00 -
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Just think this through and argue its not a problem.
LAV kill is roughly 50000 isk split between team, guesstimate. The standard one, not militia. Lets say during the match a single player calls 100 if no objectives are taken to keep pace slow. 5M isk per player. Lets say 4 on both teams can do it constantly at this rate. 20M per team.
Lets say during the prolonged match spam capturing supply depot gives 20000-40000wp with logistics suit using hack mods. 40000sp per player, less for the ones shooting LAV with tanks.
No isk lost as you call basic bpo elite pack LAV.
Sustainable but dull, best part is the SP farming and keeping district on lockdown. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
223
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:34:00 -
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Your face look like a Transformers logo from 1983. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t Orion Empire
481
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:40:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:Just think this through and argue its not a problem.
LAV kill is roughly 50000 isk split between team, guesstimate. The standard one, not militia. Lets say during the match a single player calls 100 if no objectives are taken to keep pace slow. 5M isk per player. Lets say 4 on both teams can do it constantly at this rate. 20M per team.
Lets say during the prolonged match spam capturing supply depot gives 20000-40000wp with logistics suit using hack mods. 40000sp per player, less for the ones shooting LAV with tanks.
No isk lost as you call basic bpo elite pack LAV.
Sustainable but dull, best part is the SP farming and keeping district on lockdown. It's not a problem because boosting SP will just make you cap faster and then it's pointless again and your whole corp is annoyed at your management for making the only fun thing in the game boring as hell. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
224
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:44:00 -
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Let them cheat, if they are going to spend all their time and resources cheating then there will be more for us to do. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
905
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:03:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Your face look like a Transformers logo from 1983.
OMG, the Amarr Mediums are DECEPTICONS!!! |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
67
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:04:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:07:00 -
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i thought payout was based on isk value destroyed. bpo's have no isk value so would generate no isk destroyed amount to the total. also bpo's dont supply loot. so this exploit shouldnt be able to work.
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
225
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:19:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:i thought payout was based on isk value destroyed. bpo's have no isk value so would generate no isk destroyed amount to the total. also bpo's dont supply loot. so this exploit shouldnt be able to work.
Good point and a nice name. |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1083
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:28:00 -
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BPOs seem to have its BPC values.
Otherwise, we'd never make money from mostly militia battles. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:46:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:BPOs seem to have its BPC values.
Otherwise, we'd never make money from mostly militia battles.
but there are no bpc's of bpo suits/weapons/vehicles except for militia bpo's but even then they offer so little isk value you would earn less by trying to farm it instead of killing for it.
also every fight has a contract value which adds a big chunk to the isk provided at the end of a fight. why do you think people afk. each fight gives sp and a share of the contract/isk destroyed which is why no matter how bad you play you always get around 180-200k if you play a full round.
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trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
411
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:45:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:BPOs seem to have its BPC values.
Otherwise, we'd never make money from mostly militia battles. but there are no bpc's of bpo suits/weapons/vehicles except for militia bpo's but even then they offer so little isk value you would earn less by trying to farm it instead of killing for it. also every fight has a contract value which adds a big chunk to the isk provided at the end of a fight. why do you think people afk. each fight gives sp and a share of the contract/isk destroyed which is why no matter how bad you play you always get around 180-200k if you play a full round.
Elite pack saga bpo |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1086
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:58:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:BPOs seem to have its BPC values.
Otherwise, we'd never make money from mostly militia battles. but there are no bpc's of bpo suits/weapons/vehicles except for militia bpo's but even then they offer so little isk value you would earn less by trying to farm it instead of killing for it. also every fight has a contract value which adds a big chunk to the isk provided at the end of a fight. why do you think people afk. each fight gives sp and a share of the contract/isk destroyed which is why no matter how bad you play you always get around 180-200k if you play a full round.
Actually, ask a Dropship Pilot who plays a full round and still gets 100k ISK or less (Played a full round once and got 47k) |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
261
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Posted - 2013.05.14 21:19:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:OMG, the Amarr Mediums are DECEPTICONS!!!
Ah, so it's not a reptilian bug or something then. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4106
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Posted - 2013.05.14 21:39:00 -
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First off payouts are based on Biomass destroyed only.
Salvage recovered is not 100% of the destroyed items
Losing side loses 150 clones minimal. |
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