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Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.05.14 13:53:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:No they dont need to make another OP AV weapon
Stop trying to be a scrub and solo tanks
As soon as tanks require a full crew to operate, I will accept the argument that it takes a crew of AV to kill one.
Until then...
One tank < One AVer of the next higher Meta Level
That's the only fair way to go. |
Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.05.14 14:01:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
Than they need to -drastically- increase it's projectile speed and splash radius.
3.5 meters is just slightly higher than a Forge Gun and even then you're going to be waiting for the round to actually land.
Yeah but it doesnt require a Heavy Suit to use.
Yeah, but it doesn't have the RANGE of a Forge Gun. The CFGAVW is a longer range weapon, so the Heavy can (in theory) operate from outside the range of the tank's small turrets and infantry screen.
The Plasma Cannon is a short-range weapon that requires the user to get up close and personal.
I would accept the idea of a single-shot, slow projectile weapon with little splash damage if its direct damage was massive.
Since it can't OHK a militia LAV at close range, its damage isn't even on the chart yet.
Furthermore, since it doesn't have a real magazine like CFGAVW, the user cannot even take enough shots to keep from getting run over by a Militia LAV. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.14 14:22:00 -
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Laheon wrote:On the other hand, people complaining that AV doesn't do anything anymore, well, frankly, if your team doesn't have dedicated AV squads (i.e. three or four people running around with proto AV and damage mods), then don't expect to take out vehicles quickly. I would expect to have to see two or three proto FGs working together to take out a Sagaris or a Gunnlogi, two to take out a dropship, and one firing a couple of shots to take out a decent LAV fit.
I think you have the germ of a reasonable argument here. I clipped the parts above, though I agree with them.
I don't think that anyone on the AV side thinks that solo AV should kill a well-fit HAV protected by an infantry screen. That would be an asinine argument at best.
However, if you are suggesting that it should take a team of proto-fit heavies to take out a lol-fit HAV, that it unreasonable.
Game balance is achieved through the number of people required to counter something. If one person can operate something, then one person must be able to kill it- provided...
That the "victim" is not playing well and the "assailant" is playing well.
If you reverse who is playing well, then obviously the assailant should get pwned, not matter what gear he's rocking.
However, any time that lone wolf HAVs (or even LAVs now) can pubstomp an ambush in which people are pulling out all sorts of AV, there is something wrong in the game design. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.14 14:28:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:scrubs mad bc they cant solo tanks anymore. <3
No.
*Ahem* scrubs mad bc scrubs qqd tanks cant solo hol ambush an ccp buffs tanks so scrubs can solo ambush
How was my translation into "Scrub"?
English Translation:
"People are upset because CCP overbuffed HAVs because CCP certain solo tankers whined about not being able to lone wolf an entire ambush match." |
Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.05.14 15:12:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:
In my experience, it isn't - and SHOULDN'T BE - possible to make a tank that's totally immune to being soloed.
It IS possible to play a well-fitted tank in such a way that it WON'T be soloed, but with poor control, the same fitting backed by the same passives is still killable. The balance is that if you want to use your tank to kill a good AV player, and you're alone in it, then you're going to be at risk of them killing you too.
Working as intended, imo.
It WAS working as intended. The HP buff for vehicles is going to seriously upset that balance. |
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