Losing 25% shields and 25% armour aint to bad considering in exchange you get 10% dmg resistance for them instead.

plus with how hard it is to hit dropships anyway with their speed ect.

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Here's something I actually don't know about vehicles; is that 25% bonus being applied only to hull HP, or does it modify your augmented HP (through shield extenders and armor plates)?

If it's just the hull, then the 10% might be nice. If it's the augmented, then it's not.



That's only Assaults, they butchered the speed and handling on the logistics ships in order to "buff" the Assault ships

Here's something I actually don't know about vehicles; is that 25% bonus being applied only to hull HP, or does it modify your augmented HP (through shield extenders and armor plates)?

If it's just the hull, then the 10% might be nice. If it's the augmented, then it's not.

A 25% increase in armor hitpoints applies quite intuitively: (Base HP) * 1.25 = a 25% increase in total EHP.

In contrast a resistance bonus actually benefits your ships by decreasing incoming damage. So a ship with 25% resistance bonus takes 25% less damage from hostiles. This ends up applying to their effective hitpoints as: (Base HP) / 0.75 = a 33% increase in total EHP.

Ain't that peachy? It'll be harder to kill militia LAV's now than dropships.

Based on the difference between current and post-update stats on base HP, it'll be comparatively harder to kill LAVs than HAVs.

But lets look at the numbers PROPERLY.

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With a maxed-out skill giving +2% damage resistance per level, you get 10% damage resistance.

10% damage resistance works out to approximately 11.11% (it's actually a recurring 1) EHP increase.

11.1% is less than 25%, so when working from just your base HP, this buff is smaller than you get from the current base HP increase.

Because damage resistance applies to total HP, not just your base, this is a buff to people who heavily tank their vehicles. You need to get up to 225% of your vehicle's base HP to break even on what the current skill system offers, but once you cross that threshold, any extra HP you gain provides more of an increase than it would have under the previous system.

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For HAVs, the loss of base HP from skill change is negated entirely by the 25% HP bonus, meaning the resistance is pure buff on HAVs. With LAVs, the inability to stack modules high enough to double their HP on either defense type might - MIGHT - justify the 60% HP increase. With Dropships, it's probably a nerf to DPS-focused Dropships, but if you're tanking, this change probably won't significantly impact your fittings.

It's also a net buff to active tanking and shield recharge -- these effects also gain the 11.1% effectiveness increase.

Indeed. I'm kind of multi-tasking right now though, and don't have the ability to run those numbers accurately. HP was easier to calculate.

skill bonuses are not stacking penalized, it is a buff.