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bearjew69
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:34:00 -
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NERF TACTICAL RIFLE OR LOTS OF PLAYERS WILL LEAVE DUST 514!!!!!
Or at least knock them down 10% way over used weapon!!!
Or give back old build
Or maybe hmmm just maybe do not allow players to run 5 damage mods on caldari logi.
have max of 2 dam mod to make it FAIR on every suit!!
i know guys running 3 to 4 all the time sooo there ya go do something about it PLEASE
OR IM DONE PLAYING GAME N WILL TAKE MANY WITH ME!!!!!
THX for listening BearJEW69 OUT!! |
bearjew69
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:38:00 -
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U could also reduce clip size to like 10 or 15 Less ammo way MORE kick
I have my own rifle semi automatic n kick 5 times harder than that!!
It pushs me back with kick so there that
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CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:44:00 -
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another idea would be to reduce the rate of fire.
it should not be a good close range weapon right now its a rapid fire sniper rifle.
i agree a reduction in damage is needed but i suggest u focus ur attention on damage mods about this as those things makes this gun look even more op. |
bearjew69
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:56:00 -
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Oh yah forgot to mention umm isnt this whole build evolved around custimization of differnt classes not everyone specillizing in Tac rifles and weapon that are over over power n need work, i have to complain im not that kind of person but stuff does need to be equal and the complainers can just deal with it when everything is balanced. Everyone weapon should have the equal oppurtunity to kill attacker. Not having one weapon that ruins everything. Like last build same prob with laser rifle know its the tac, hmmm i find there is a trend here. This is very painful as player to have to run the same as the rest im a unique person n i dont like running the same as the rest but forced too to stay competetive. So hopefully CCP reads this. They are doing a great job, but do need help with some things lmfao. Oh ya very excited for release of pc!! |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
125
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:58:00 -
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bearjew69 wrote:WAAAAAAAAAAH
Welcome to New Eden Brother.
Adapt or Die.
(impending nerfs to tac ar are already in the works) |
bearjew69
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.13 21:59:00 -
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If you beleive this is correct and should be done plz throw a messeage down a vote, i want this changed and many others do!!! |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:00:00 -
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u would never use a laser in close range it was most usefull at mid range when no 1 was shooting back now the lasers above the standard were to powerful but standard was fine.
now it seems u have to spec into a certain class if u want to win... |
bearjew69
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:03:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:bearjew69 wrote:WAAAAAAAAAAH Welcome to New Eden Brother. Adapt or Die. (impending nerfs to tac ar are already in the works)
I guess lol, i do believe that weapons in dust, is there downfall. Any other fps ive played has equal terms of killing of attacker.
I dont know dude what do you think of the TAC? |
bearjew69
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:05:00 -
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I personally miss the gek!! lol |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:07:00 -
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... i have an idea on how to make every person to stop complaining about stuff being op
set the damage to 0...
these weapons rnt designed to be equal
they r designed to fulfill diffrent roles.
so they each should have different strength and weakness. |
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ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
125
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:07:00 -
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bearjew69 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:bearjew69 wrote:WAAAAAAAAAAH Welcome to New Eden Brother. Adapt or Die. (impending nerfs to tac ar are already in the works) I guess lol, i do believe that weapons in dust, is there downfall. Any other fps ive played has equal terms of killing of attacker. I dont know dude what do you think of the TAC?
I love the TAC. I like using it, and I like going against it.
Its mostly OP cause every other gun in this game sucks. Need ranges fixed really bad, and soon. |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
44
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:08:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:another idea would be to reduce the rate of fire.
It only fires one shot at a time. People are just clicking the thing really fast. If you hold down the button, it fires one shot and stops. Hence why it's "Single-Shot" in the description... |
Jonny Moreau
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:11:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:bearjew69 wrote:WAAAAAAAAAAH Welcome to New Eden Brother. Adapt or Die. (impending nerfs to tac ar are already in the works)
Some people have no kindness in their hearts with which to ease the suffering of the righteois.
I personally boycott tacs the same way I boycott every op weapon, they need a nerf, they have: 1) more range than any other assault rifle 2) more damage by FAR 3) higher rate of fire than any other assault rifle 4) not enough hipfire recoil( or recoil in general)
Didnt ccp say they were going to get rid of stacked damage mods? Gettin reel tired of your KITTEN ccp! |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
270
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:18:00 -
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There's no need to nerf the TAR. Are you guys trying it out? You should. Get good with it and learn what it does well, and what it doesn't. Too many people are crying rivers of tears because they are getting killed by it without learning or adapting. Wait for scrambler rifles and see how that changes engagements. Take a breath and relax. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
125
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:19:00 -
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Jonny Moreau wrote:Some people have no kindness in their hearts with which to ease the suffering of the righteois.
I personally boycott tacs the same way I boycott every op weapon, they need a nerf, they have: 1) more range than any other assault rifle 2) more damage by FAR 3) higher rate of fire than any other assault rifle 4) not enough hipfire recoil( or recoil in general)
Didnt ccp say they were going to get rid of stacked damage mods? Gettin reel tired of your KITTEN ccp!
This is New Eden, not Hello Kitty.
And honestly... who cares... the whole game is wreck atm. Ranges need to be fixed so badly, hit detection is practically non-existent, clipping on every pebble and blade of grass they've introduced since chromosome.
You can nerf the TAC into the ground and this game will still continue to be a mess. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:22:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:CLONE117 wrote:another idea would be to reduce the rate of fire. It only fires one shot at a time. People are just clicking the thing really fast. If you hold down the button, it fires one shot and stops. Hence why it's "Single-Shot" in the description...
take the current sniper rifle into consideration it was a slow rof.
just because some is a single shot doesnt mean it has no rate of fire.
the tac ar does have a rate of fire.
holding the trigger down and watching it shoot just says its fully automatic... |
bacon blaster
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:35:00 -
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Look, the problem is that people re using moded controllers that allow them to burst fire the tar. They push the button once, the controller rapid fires the gun at it's max rof. The result is that you can drop a heavy in like 1 second. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:41:00 -
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bacon blaster wrote:Look, the problem is that people re using moded controllers that allow them to burst fire the tar. They push the button once, the controller rapid fires the gun at it's max rof. The result is that you can drop a heavy in like 1 second. You make it sound like all the Tac AR users use modded controllers when the real number of those highly uncertain.
That thing is broken and not just because of modded controllers.
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Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
270
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:57:00 -
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Modded controllers are not prevalent and the TAR is not broken. You just haven't learned to counter it yet. You only have a couple choices for long range weapons, and the TAR is most versatile of the three. Scrambler rifles are coming and will provide a new counter. And lets not even talk about how SP and skills massively buff your weapon over time.
Instead of QQing so hard, learn and evolve your gunplay. Now if ZDub, the rest of PFBHz and IMPs all go corp battle and really test it out as it's meant to be played, and then provide feedback that it's OP, I'd be more inclined to believe it. Feedback from pub stomps is practically useless. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
167
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Posted - 2013.05.13 22:58:00 -
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Just make it the 20k years in the future equivalent of a bolt action and be done with it. |
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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.13 23:11:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:Modded controllers are not prevalent and the TAR is not broken. You just haven't learned to counter it yet. You only have a couple choices for long range weapons, and the TAR is most versatile of the three. Scrambler rifles are coming and will provide a new counter. And lets not even talk about how SP and skills massively buff your weapon over time.
If ZDub, the rest of PFBHz and IMPs all go corp battle and really test it out as it's meant to be played, and then provide feedback that it's OP, I'd be more inclined to believe it. Feedback from pubstomps is practically useless.
Appeal to authority?
I agree that the lack of counters is probably the main reason for it's current dominance but looking at any killfeed right now suggests to me that some kind of action ought to be taken if the scrambler fails to change things up. Also this gun deviates a little too much from it's brethren in terms of niche if you ask me. It's still supposed to be the shortest range gun in it's class. |
Rachoi
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.13 23:20:00 -
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sigh.... y'know, as much as i see the Tac AR used, its not an issue for me, and i run into more regular Duvolles than anything... still pisses me off to see more AR now than ever, but i refuse to go to it.
we will soon see the stacking penalties applaied, so 5 Damabe boosters wont give the same kind of punch later as they do now. if the penalty is an exponential curve down.. that is just perfect, and will make people think more about how much of a waste it'll be |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.14 01:04:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:Artificer Ghost wrote:CLONE117 wrote:another idea would be to reduce the rate of fire. It only fires one shot at a time. People are just clicking the thing really fast. If you hold down the button, it fires one shot and stops. Hence why it's "Single-Shot" in the description... take the current sniper rifle into consideration it was a slow rof. just because some is a single shot doesnt mean it has no rate of fire. the tac ar does have a rate of fire. holding the trigger down and watching it shoot just says its fully automatic...
No, you misunderstood. I never said it didn't have a rate of fire. It does. I'm just saying it have a very slow RoF. Unless, of course, the shooter is smart enough to click the button really fast. I survive Tac-ARs more than I get killed because I use the slow RoF to my advantage. Bunny hopping and zig-zagging, my friend. Bunny hopping and zig-zagging. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
429
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Posted - 2013.05.14 01:06:00 -
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bearjew69 wrote:NERF TACTICAL RIFLE OR LOTS OF PLAYERS WILL LEAVE DUST 514!!!!!
Or at least knock them down 10% way over used weapon!!!
Or give back old build
Or maybe hmmm just maybe do not allow players to run 5 damage mods on caldari logi.
have max of 2 dam mod to make it FAIR on every suit!!
i know guys running 3 to 4 all the time sooo there ya go do something about it PLEASE
OR IM DONE PLAYING GAME N WILL TAKE MANY WITH ME!!!!!
THX for listening BearJEW69 OUT!!
Bye.
Now, for the record, running five damage mods is a near complete waste of two slots.
New Eden isn't fair. Neither is life. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
429
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Posted - 2013.05.14 01:07:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:sigh.... y'know, as much as i see the Tac AR used, its not an issue for me, and i run into more regular Duvolles than anything... still pisses me off to see more AR now than ever, but i refuse to go to it.
we will soon see the stacking penalties applaied, so 5 Damabe boosters wont give the same kind of punch later as they do now. if the penalty is an exponential curve down.. that is just perfect, and will make people think more about how much of a waste it'll be
Stacking penalties are already applied. CCP has said so themselves. |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
44
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Posted - 2013.05.14 01:10:00 -
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Didn't they have stacking penalties in Chromosome? |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
78
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Posted - 2013.05.14 01:11:00 -
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AS ALWAYS. The TAC AR is FINE. It just needs a CQC NERF.
It has more range than regular AR.It hits harder.It can shoot faster.Ok i can deal with these.
BUT: Its way too good up close.... |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
429
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Posted - 2013.05.14 01:12:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:Didn't they have stacking penalties in Chromosome?
Yes. |
bearjew69
Neanderthal Nation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.14 02:32:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Jonny Moreau wrote:Some people have no kindness in their hearts with which to ease the suffering of the righteois.
I personally boycott tacs the same way I boycott every op weapon, they need a nerf, they have: 1) more range than any other assault rifle 2) more damage by FAR 3) higher rate of fire than any other assault rifle 4) not enough hipfire recoil( or recoil in general)
Didnt ccp say they were going to get rid of stacked damage mods? Gettin reel tired of your KITTEN ccp! This is New Eden, not Hello Kitty. And honestly... who cares... the whole game is wreck atm. Ranges need to be fixed so badly, hit detection is practically non-existent, clipping on every pebble and blade of grass they've introduced since chromosome. You can nerf the TAC into the ground and this game will still continue to be a mess.
AGREED!!! lol |
bearjew69
Neanderthal Nation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.14 02:33:00 -
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CLIP SIZE WOULD HELP TONS!! AND RANGE
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