^ this. The less isk gains, the better game. Shiny gear needs to be shiny, not standard. Killing a proto guy should put a smile on your face, with the knowledge he's raging for a whole grinding day's loss of isk.

We should NOT be getting more isk than EVE players for fighting in dropsuits than capsuleers do when they are risking 50+miilion ISK ships.....yet we are.....

Why would you compare us to the Pill People?

They are space rich so how much they make is of no concern of ours. They can generate hundreds of millions of ISK per day mining with little to zero risk*. So how can you even compare the two situations? They can do the QQ Kitten dance in their own forums.

Let them eat vacuum.


* I have been informed by EVE players that if they want to put in the time they can mine and generate 1B ISK per day. These individuals have been accurate so far to date. The problem is they don't want to put that much effort into grinding.

I think personaly the PVE in the game will add more payments into the game when you control districts. Also FW will get better payments and when dust goes in 0.0 some corps could easy get a few hunderd mil for importent battles when the merc systeem comes out.

Slowly dust will by more connected to the eve economy.

Who says the current proto suits will by the best suits? Maybe there will by faction and officer suits and further like t3. Same with the tanks there might by super tanks that cost like 30 mil.

This game is going to have a excited road the coming 5 to 10 years.

Why do you guys do that? ....suggest that everyone accept flawed aspects of the game just for it to be tolerable after 5 years?

Thank you...

I'm sick and tired of reading comparisons between dust and eve. And I am tired of players trying to recreate eve through dust. This is probably why there were some fail choices made.

Anyway back on topic....the ISK payouts does not seem to add up. Sometimes, you'll see a bunch of proto wearing guys dying 8-11x with blown dropships and tanks and payouts may just scratch $300K for first place. The only time that I'll see a nice payout is if the other team has maybe 2 organized squads using more than std gear.

They have said to first focus on the core off the game the coming few months to improve and fix things before going into new stuff.

Use expensive stuff, die to cheap stuff, make a cheap bastard happy with your tears, complain at forums that you don-¦t get paid enough, make a whole bunch of people happy with your tears.

Why would you compare us to the Pill People?

They are space rich so how much they make is of no concern of ours. They can generate hundreds of millions of ISK per day mining with little to zero risk*. So how can you even compare the two situations? They can do the QQ Kitten dance in their own forums.

Let them eat vacuum.


* I have been informed by EVE players that if they want to put in the time they can mine and generate 1B ISK per day. These individuals have been accurate so far to date. The problem is they don't want to put that much effort into grinding.

In perspective, I would have a proto fit cost 10 000 000 isk at current rates. The loss should be meaningful enough to make them shiny.

Dark Cloud had a point there which most people overlooked:

Isk gains for battle are supposed to come from value of gear opponents used.
People got huge pile of isk.
People are using currently way more proto gear.
Still, isk payouts seem to be lower than pre-uprising.


Question is, is the isk payout system NOT working as intended?
In other words, is it broken?

I was thinking that the proto gear maybe needed increasing in price I am finding I am able to make isk wearing proto gear and complex gear, I was under the impression that this game was never meant to encourage or support players using proto gear all the time, I would personally like to see the prices increase to make us use the lower tier gear more often and pick our proto gear for priority matches only.