Seriously need chromosome build restored, the only fix that was needed then was range on cqc weapons like shotguns, and the laser needed a slight nerf, that's it. now the entire game is cobbler vs cobbler and there isn't room for individualism in gameplay. the variety of play styles is gone. CCP had a great game, now it's more of a cqc trainer for other fps games.

if the Creodron Breach is meant to be high damage and the Duvolle Tac medium damage, why does the breach only do 56dmg and the tac 78dmg?

Surely the Tac should be doing damage in the middle between Duvolle Assault (37.4) and Creodron Breach (56.1)

So tac should be around 46dmg per shot (and will still need it's ROF fixed)

Running around with the TAC Duvolle in a decent suit costs 100k plus per pop so obviously this weapon should be good. This also is the top/best assault rifle on the market and comes with the skills required 2 use it.

Makes no difference. Perhaps other weapons need tweaking but the TAC Duvolle is perfect the way it is.

Are there people out there who think that an 80k weapon should work any differently?

Makes no difference. Perhaps other weapons need tweaking but the TAC Duvolle is perfect the way it is.

Are there people out there who think that an 80k weapon should work any differently?

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I never said it was broken although it's easy to see it is because of the ridiculous ROF you can get with it combined with the damage. Remember, I use this a lot now.

Also, most people using the Duvolle Tax have about 100-200 million ISK so 0 **** given about the pricing.


Next, you mention skills?


Why can't the Creodron do as well then? Or the Viziam now? Or the other proto weapons? Face it, it's broken, or the whole game but the tac is broken.

If this and if that? Where are you going with this?

Broken? At what point did you forget you are playing a beta version of the game and the full release is yet to come? Of course the game is broken in some areas. What else do you expect?

Just delete it. No more tac AR, instantly, weapons are balanced. (although, the new balance is still terrible)

The TAC AR is just fine the way it is.

says everybody who uses this weapon as a crutch lol

Why are you here crying over a weapon everyone can use? Why are you so ladylike??

crying? Oh sorry, didn't realize calling out everyone as being a scrub for using this weapon = crying

I didn't play much before this build. Said I'd give Uprising a shot. Since I returned I've used the TAR almost exclusively. The problem is not that the TAR is OP, but that all the other guns are severely underpowered.

A scrub? Hardly

Look at the kill feed on the top right of your screen in the next game and you'll see most of the kills are getting racked up with the TAR. It's being used by n00bs and vets alike. For 2 reasons:

1. The TAR is the only AR in the game that comes close to what most players would deem a "regular" gun in any other FPS. It's familiar and it drops red dots.
2. This game is ruthless. People will stack every advantage they can get, like water we follow the route of least resistance. Don't pretend for a second that all the non-"scrub" players/corps won't take advantage every time CCP drop the ball.

This is my first post on the forums so I suppose my word may not have much weight so to speak.

IMO yes the other guns are underpowered, most likely in the range department. But this gun when "normal" or even more so when fitted with damage mods is rediculous to say the least. IMO no single handheld gun should be able to output that much damage. This coupled with the other guns having no range makes it even worse.

Pretty sure I have come across a fully automatic varient of this gun. I kept thinking a SMG was dropping me, then I looked at the kill info and it was the Proto Tac gun.

Literaly 4-5 (sometimes less) shots with this thing will drop me and I have roughly 500 shield and 300 hp.

The damge output now makes it almost useless to use any armor rep mods because 9 outta 10 times as soon as I take fire from something I am dead anyway.

I can't imagine how newberries must feel.

This gun is almost like the new sniper rifle honestly because of the range decrease to all guns. Your team gets pinned down because at the range that this thing can put 3 rounds into and kill you, nothing else can even touch it.

Rant off LOL

Sorry I have been frustred lately by continuously getting pwned with this thing.

I-¦m actually enjoying this new build now and also excited to see the final product once it-¦s ready. Difficult to understand all the tears on this forum.