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p q
Zylak's Used Clones
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:23:00 -
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With the new patch, there was a ton of nerfs. I am a "medium" level player. I play in an assualt style militia suit right now, but I'm more of a logi style player; not to great at killing, my niche is drop uplinks and upscale nanohives in the right time and place. Now to the point: almost 90% of all players are using ARs right now. That's a tad boring, right? Bring back the HMG builds. Make the laser what it should be! Make the shotgun... uh... well don't un-nerf that too much ha ha but really nobody wants an all AR game. I never liked being killed by anything, but plz give a little bit of balls back to the LR, HMG, and (gasp!) Maybe even the SG guys. Variety is GOOD. Jus' sayin'. Who wants to play just AR vs AR every match? The old lasers were really cool, BTW. I wasn't good with them really but the graphics and sound kind of set the "tone of the future". I do miss my HMG fit, but that's a different tale... |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
180
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:28:00 -
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Actually the SMG is a pretty good weapon .... I was killing people like fly's yesterday, and that was only the Militia one.. god knows what you can do with the high tier ones. |
Chilled Pill
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:20:00 -
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SMGs are great! But they only really shine in maps with CQC areas. Otherwise, you're out ranged at every turn. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
745
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:23:00 -
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p q wrote:With the new patch, there was a ton of nerfs. I am a "medium" level player. I play in an assualt style militia suit right now, but I'm more of a logi style player; not to great at killing, my niche is drop uplinks and upscale nanohives in the right time and place. Now to the point: almost 90% of all players are using ARs right now. That's a tad boring, right? Bring back the HMG builds. Make the laser what it should be! Make the shotgun... uh... well don't un-nerf that too much ha ha but really nobody wants an all AR game. I never liked being killed by anything, but plz give a little bit of balls back to the LR, HMG, and (gasp!) Maybe even the SG guys. Variety is GOOD. Jus' sayin'. Who wants to play just AR vs AR every match? The old lasers were really cool, BTW. I wasn't good with them really but the graphics and sound kind of set the "tone of the future". I do miss my HMG fit, but that's a different tale... You forgot the Mass Driver! |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:26:00 -
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Chilled Pill wrote:SMGs are great! But they only really shine in maps with CQC areas. Otherwise, you're out ranged at every turn.
Yep, getting in "range" is a bit hard...but once you are in range it is brilliant. Just have to play the game a bit differently, and try flanking people.
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Eisen Sonnet
S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:31:00 -
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Part of the problem is people who used those other weapons pretty much stopped playing already or changed to Assault AR . So, for there to be more of a variety of builds and weapons being used we really need to get that previous population of players back in to the game again. That's a pretty difficult thing to do.
Maybe if they offered starting fits that already contained different weapons builds it would help ease new players in to different play styles. Like a militia laser rifle build with flux grenades on an amarr medium frame, or MD on a Gallente etc. Get people away from a standard Caladari AR Assault build right at the beginning so they can see what other styles are out there. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
746
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:34:00 -
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Eisen Sonnet wrote:Part of the problem is people who used those other weapons pretty much stopped playing already or changed to Assault AR . So, for there to be more of a variety of builds and weapons being used we really need to get that previous population of players back in to the game again. That's a pretty difficult thing to do.
Maybe if they offered starting fits that already contained different weapons builds it would help ease new players in to different play styles. Like a militia laser rifle build with flux grenades on an amarr medium frame, or MD on a Gallente etc. Get people away from a standard Caladari AR Assault build right at the beginning so they can see what other styles are out there. The other problem is they're intentionally keeping the AR's DPS significantly higher than all the other light weapons. Even to this day, I don't understand how the AR is supposed to out DPS a mini gun and a grenade launcher. Catering to the AR isn't going to attract CoD bois. Besides, you don't want them anyway. The ones here are spoiled and snobbish with a sense of self entitlement. |
Eisen Sonnet
S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:41:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Eisen Sonnet wrote:Part of the problem is people who used those other weapons pretty much stopped playing already or changed to Assault AR . So, for there to be more of a variety of builds and weapons being used we really need to get that previous population of players back in to the game again. That's a pretty difficult thing to do.
Maybe if they offered starting fits that already contained different weapons builds it would help ease new players in to different play styles. Like a militia laser rifle build with flux grenades on an amarr medium frame, or MD on a Gallente etc. Get people away from a standard Caladari AR Assault build right at the beginning so they can see what other styles are out there. The other problem is they're intentionally keeping the AR's DPS significantly higher than all the other light weapons. Even to this day, I don't understand how the AR is supposed to out DPS a mini gun and a grenade launcher. Catering to the AR isn't going to attract CoD bois. Besides, you don't want them anyway. The ones here are spoiled and snobbish with a sense of self entitlement.
I think the main issue with AR is the headshot multiplier and not it's base dps, it's much easier to score a headshot on them than to hit with the HMG or to score a direct hit with the MD. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
746
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:52:00 -
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Eisen Sonnet wrote:Cosgar wrote:Eisen Sonnet wrote:Part of the problem is people who used those other weapons pretty much stopped playing already or changed to Assault AR . So, for there to be more of a variety of builds and weapons being used we really need to get that previous population of players back in to the game again. That's a pretty difficult thing to do.
Maybe if they offered starting fits that already contained different weapons builds it would help ease new players in to different play styles. Like a militia laser rifle build with flux grenades on an amarr medium frame, or MD on a Gallente etc. Get people away from a standard Caladari AR Assault build right at the beginning so they can see what other styles are out there. The other problem is they're intentionally keeping the AR's DPS significantly higher than all the other light weapons. Even to this day, I don't understand how the AR is supposed to out DPS a mini gun and a grenade launcher. Catering to the AR isn't going to attract CoD bois. Besides, you don't want them anyway. The ones here are spoiled and snobbish with a sense of self entitlement. I think the main issue with AR is the headshot multiplier and not it's base dps, it's much easier to score a headshot on them than to hit with the HMG or to score a direct hit with the MD. It's actually easier to score a direct hit and headshots with the MD since they made its trajectory straight. Not sure what the multiplier is, but I've been able to OHK anything below an ADV assault with the breach. Direct hit damage and splash damage factor into the headshot calculation apparently. If you hit them in the torso, only splash damage is calculated. Assuming the rounds don't fly through the target. |
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