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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.05.11 10:35:00 -
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TAC AR once again is used like a full auto AR. Sigh You never learn do you CCP? Can you please put a limit on the fire rate? |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 10:42:00 -
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Krightun wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TAC AR once again is used like a full auto AR. Sigh You never learn do you CCP? Can you please put a limit on the fire rate? question: THE TAC RIFLE shoots every time you press / click fire right? there's not delay ..or if there is it's very short?.. No delay as far as I know of. People are using it like a full auto AR. Sometimes I could swear I'm in a 1v1 vs a duvolle, but its actually a TAC AR. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:02:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:Can you prove it? Maybe they are stacking complex damage mods... Or getiing headshots and causing more damage. It says on the death screen what they're using genius. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 11:10:00 -
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J-Lewis wrote:The ROF on the GLU-5 is 789.5 RPM; that's higher than the GEK's 750 RPM! Lowering ROF to between 120 and 240 rpm would solve the issue of modded controllers.
Just for frame of reference, that's 13 taps per second. This is quasi impossible without a turbo controller, even if you used two fingers you'd probably top out at 200 clicks per minute. Never asked for a damage decrease. Decreasing the ROF would be good. I would put it at 100, that means 1.6 taps per second. I think the idea behind the TAC AR is to have a battle rifle like weapon. Battle rifles are shot at about this rate. This will also make it useless at close range, just like its supposed to be IMHO. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 12:11:00 -
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Chilled Pill wrote:1.6 clicks per second?! 96 rpm?! It'll take 18.75 seconds to empty my clip?! Are you f'n serious?
Why are we non modders getting punished for being able to fire fast and be accurate? Also, I haven't ran into a Tac user with a modded controller -- it's obvious with the sound it produces.
Just remove the 10% damage buff on it. Its supposed to do long range, accurate damage. Kinda like a battle rifle. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 12:34:00 -
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Chilled Pill wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Chilled Pill wrote:1.6 clicks per second?! 96 rpm?! It'll take 18.75 seconds to empty my clip?! Are you f'n serious?
Why are we non modders getting punished for being able to fire fast and be accurate? Also, I haven't ran into a Tac user with a modded controller -- it's obvious with the sound it produces.
Just remove the 10% damage buff on it. Its supposed to do long range, accurate damage. Kinda like a battle rifle. The tac sniper rifle, maybe even the regular sniper rifle, fires faster than that. You're just being ridiculous. You're joking? You may go now and check what's the RPM on the TAC SR. Also, the TAC AR got a higher clip size. Like 7 times more than the SR. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:19:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TAC AR once again is used like a full auto AR. Sigh You never learn do you CCP? Can you please put a limit on the fire rate? Ironically it is only the bad players who whine about this gun. People have a better trigger finger then me. Therefore, they must be using a Modded controller lol. 100 RMP seriously. This is why the game is such a bad state because of cry babies like Cat Merc Right... Because 780 RPM for a gun like this is logical right? Get lot, your posts are useless. I don't whine unless there is a good reason to do it, and CCP gave me loads of reasons.
You people are the truest sense of the word fanboy, you just can't believe that CCP made a mistake.
I can tell if its a modded controller, my ear can sense things that repeat with perfect timing. Its just a little quirk I have. And even if its not, 1000 DPS is insane.
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I didn't whine before Uprising about anything, the game was good enough then. So no, nothing of this is because of me.
Also, that's the fire rate this gun should have: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_GruYTaJk |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:23:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:CCP didn't care about your QQ during closed beta what thinks they are now. TAC has range on most guns. I know I feel it and it hurts, but when I can catch TAC user with my GEK or smg I rip them apart.
Once again the dust community wants stats nerfed because something kills them. With a turbo controller this gun can have 1000 DPS. I'm pretty sure a fire rate limit is justified. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:26:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Put the rpm to 400 thats where the breach is sitting at and should be enough. I think it should be around 300 RPM. That will put it at slightly lower DPS than the full auto variant. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:31:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Put the rpm to 400 thats where the breach is sitting at and should be enough. I think it should be around 300 RPM. That will put it at slightly lower DPS than the full auto variant. Why does it need to be lower than the auto version I agree it needs toning down but the general nothing is balanced till its worse than the AR is just silly. ... Its a semi auto variant, the fact that it would have even close to the DPS of the standard variant is laughable. This should be a good fire rate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_GruYTaJk I still think the Breach variant should have either more damage or more fire rate, its DPS is too low. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:34:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:So, just as an example, nearly every AR in Planetside 2 has a semi-auto function, and no restriction of fire rate.
I can click fast enough to pump out rounds like it's set to automatic, while maintaining greater accuracy.
Think you just need to work on your strafing, man. Does it get more than double the damage when you switch to semi auto? There is no working on your strafing when a gun can have over 1000 DPS, you just die. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:40:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Rurouni Kenshin wrote:Mapping the Mouse wheel to do a click ... hmmmmmm ... sounds like something only possible on a PC not on a PS3. Programmable mouse. Way more lol than a modded controller. Report rates, macros and turbo features on a mouse put all modded controllers to shame. Moreover a TAC AR has a recoil to it that gets harder to control the more you fire it as you near that top rate. Fact is i can fire a full auto AR in this game with rapid button presses and you would never note when i am off the trigger and it will look like im just holding the trigger the entire tip. Protip: When firing rapid button presses dont fully release the trigger learn to slide it so it lifts just enough and never pull your finger off the trigger. It really isnt hard to get a rapid series of trigger responses. Problem is that the recoil has a limit, after which it won't rise anymore. If you just move your stick to compensate, you can keep firing without having to move your stick anymore. Its actually more accurate that way lol. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 16:02:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Cat Merc wrote:TAC AR once again is used like a full auto AR. Sigh You never learn do you CCP? Can you please put a limit on the fire rate? Ironically it is only the bad players who whine about this gun. People have a better trigger finger then me. Therefore, they must be using a Modded controller lol. 100 RMP seriously. This is why the game is such a bad state because of cry babies like Cat Merc Right... Because 780 RPM for a gun like this is logical right? Get lot, your posts are useless. I don't whine unless there is a good reason to do it, and CCP gave me loads of reasons. You people are the truest sense of the word fanboy, you just can't believe that CCP made a mistake. I can tell if its a modded controller, my ear can sense things that repeat with perfect timing. Its just a little quirk I have. And even if its not, 1000 DPS is insane. P.S I didn't whine before Uprising about anything, the game was good enough then. So no, nothing of this is because of me. Also, that's the fire rate this gun should have: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_GruYTaJk Quote:I can tell if its a modded controller, my ear can sense things that repeat with perfect timing. Now you just need to STFU. Please don't go all sensi on me. Prove right now that anyone is using a TAR. Just prove it, well I mean other than your heightened hearing skills LMFAO. Alrighty then, don't believe me. You are welcome to go on a match right now and see how fast people are firing. 1000 DPS is for an AR is BS. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 16:19:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:People team fire with tacs of course you're going to die running out into the open. As every DUST514 noob says "USE COVER" The TAC AR is being used as a CQC weapon and is excellent at that. Your argument is invalid. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 16:30:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Protoman Is God wrote:People team fire with tacs of course you're going to die running out into the open. As every DUST514 noob says "USE COVER" The TAC AR is being used as a CQC weapon and is excellent at that. Your argument is invalid. Because you titled this thread "mod controllers are running rampant" Everything you say is invalid. You are welcome to try and play against a squad of people using modded controllers. See if your fingers can even get close to that speed. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 16:38:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Protoman Is God wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Protoman Is God wrote:People team fire with tacs of course you're going to die running out into the open. As every DUST514 noob says "USE COVER" The TAC AR is being used as a CQC weapon and is excellent at that. Your argument is invalid. Because you titled this thread "mod controllers are running rampant" Everything you say is invalid. You are welcome to try and play against a squad of people using modded controllers. See if your fingers can even get close to that speed. Name me a squad of mod controller users and i'll be sure to seek them out and play against them today. I don't ever remember names. I just find it pointless to do so, as you will rarely meet again. Just play around, you are bound to find them. |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 16:39:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:Modded controllers aren't running rampant... but I get your intention to draw attention to a problem. There is a problem, ROF is too fast. Needs to be dropped down to 300ish.
As to the ideas to get rid of the scope or nerf damage... those are just STUPID. The whole point is to have a high dmg, high range AR. One that probably shouldn't be too good in CQC. The only way to "fix" the weapon, w/o breaking it INTENDED function, is to drop the ROF. Exactly |
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