While we're at it, give the Amarr Sentinel Dropsuit a 3% small-arms gunfire damage reduction per level.
Minmatar and Gallente logi bonuses actually apply to being logistics so they can stay, the Amarr Logistics Dropsuit SHOULD give a 5% bonus to stamina and stamina regen per level, to keep pace with other units since their base speeds are the lowest.

The general Assault Dropsuit bonus should be changed from +3% shield regen to +2% hand-held weapon damage per level, to support the fact that they should be killing people. Electronics and Engineering SP costs need to be lowered so that non-logi's can have the CPU and PG to equip what they need to. You can do all of this without nerfing the logistics class and handicapping the only class that has been free from this idiotic nerf-spree CCP has been set on.

Basic Heavy suits are still at the point they are now - a slight buff from how they were. Medium Frame suits are still where they are now. Assault suits no longer have their shield regen bonus, but instead gain +2% weapon damage per level" and Sentinel suits get the same. Maybe one or the other could have +3% instead.

This game will never be balanced. Everybody has different moduls assigned onto a suit, each module does something different either making or breaking your dropsuit in a firefight. So theoretically this game will never be balanced...

- Geth

...Yeah, that's **** ass logic. I shouldn't shower because I will always get dirtier? So they should never fix the TAC AR?

Just because they can't have perfect balance doesn't mean they shouldn't try.

2. remove basic suit, go straight to scout, sentinel, assault or logistic
3. reomove 1 high and one low power mod for EVERY logi class and increase cpu/pg of all equipment AND logi suits so only logis can be effective using them.
4. give all logis 1 more equip slot so they can carry repair gun, needle, and multiple nanohives
5. give scout 1 more equip slot so they can carry uplink and explosive
6. remove equip slot on all assaults so they depend on logis for ammo.

Basic Heavy suits are still at the point they are now - a slight buff from how they were. Medium Frame suits are still where they are now. Assault suits no longer have their shield regen bonus, but instead gain +2% weapon damage per level" and Sentinel suits get the same. Maybe one or the other could have +3% instead.

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I mean seriously? More handheld weapon damage for the assault suits(AR users)? This game's battles are focused on role diversity for kitten's sake! They nerfed EVERYTHING to accommodate AR toting CoD/Halo try hards. All you guys had to do is pick up a different weapon if you couldn't get kills with the AR.

Now we have an easy mode suit with an easy mode weapon.

INB4 you say it isn't easy mode Assault w/AR...i've used it and it is way easier than any other fitting.

Not all assaults use ARs. The damage bonus would be to discourage "logissaulting" that people have been crying about.

While I do realize this is true, one must admit to the over abundance of the AR in the DUST. When I started this game it was drastically more diverse than it is now.

Today I played for a few hours and at least 85% of my deaths were from some AR variant. (Duvolle or GLU mostly)

Sad really in a game that offers so much more we see so much less from its players.

Apply my suggestions above and SUDDENLY DIVERSE.

I agree with all except removing the racial bonuses. I think those would add more to diversity.

Dust 514 is not about balancing out each suit. It is about specializing and using the bonuses inherent in the suit to maximize your play style. Example with Logi Bro's example:

Amarr has trouble with stamina but is better with both shield and armor HP. Its racial skill should not be that of balancing it in with other suits with a racial stamina bonus, but rather a bonus that re-enforces its strengths. The repair rates or anything dealing with armor is correct. Not shielding, not pg/cpu, and certainly not stamina. The religious "hold the line" attitude does not lend itself to running away. Stamina is the wrong direction.

This is not about making each suit equal but recognizing the bonus of each and playing with its strong points as other characters will be playing to other points that defeat your bonuses. If you would like to attach modules to further normalize the suit that is your choice and option (isn't that great?!) but you do not have to do so.

No against your balancing proposal. I want strengths and weaknesses not puddle of lukewarm options to be just a little bit more like everyone else. I like having that option, but we specialize - thus the reason for unique suits, races, etc.

Some of the bonuses should be changed, on that i agree, but the bonuses expressed here are not in line with the core spirit of the game.