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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:56:00 -
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We're getting a buff, that's awesome. the HMG needed it.
HOWEVER...
We need to keep a very close eye on the efficiency versus equivalent enemies.
MLT/STD enemies are the equivalent to basic HMG, etc.
If enemies of similar tier to our weapon are getting annihilated with no recoure and we DO become walking walls of win we need to ask CCP politely to start tweaking down a bit at a time until we reach parity.
No someone bull-rushing you in a straight line doesn't count. Watch it's effectiveness against opponents who are NOT being idiots.
The damage buff is great, but it's the dispersion buff we need to really watch. Surviving heavies outside optimal is dependent upon the dispersion so if we need to be tweaked down dispersion should be the first place we look.
But don't be pissy, be honest. If we merrily dance around going "YAY IM GOD! I SLAUGHTER THE MORTALS!" CCP is gonna nerfhammer us again, hard.
And they will have no reason to ever listen to us again.
So pay attention. be honest.
Prototype gear is going to annihilate MLT/STD
But if a STD HMG obliterates all comers? We got problems. Big ones. |
137H4RGIC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:02:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:We're getting a buff, that's awesome. the HMG needed it.
HOWEVER...
We need to keep a very close eye on the efficiency versus equivalent enemies.
MLT/STD enemies are the equivalent to basic HMG, etc.
If enemies of similar tier to our weapon are getting annihilated with no recourse and we DO become walking walls of win we need to ask CCP politely to start tweaking down a bit at a time until we reach parity.
No someone bull-rushing you in a straight line doesn't count. Watch it's effectiveness against opponents who are NOT being idiots.
The damage buff is great, but it's the dispersion buff we need to really watch. Surviving heavies outside optimal is dependent upon the dispersion so if we need to be tweaked down dispersion should be the first place we look.
But don't be pissy, be honest. If we merrily dance around going "YAY IM GOD! I SLAUGHTER THE MORTALS!" CCP is gonna nerfhammer us again, hard.
And they will have no reason to ever listen to us again.
So pay attention. be honest.
Prototype gear is going to annihilate MLT/STD
But if a STD HMG obliterates all comers? We got problems. Big ones. Where is your source for the buff? I dont see it anywhere?
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Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:02:00 -
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I know me and my MH-82 got several kills outside the 40m range this morning I only played 3 games but I like how it is at right now it demolishes in close and can hold it's own at 40m vs an AR. 490 shield 506 armor 2 basic extenders and 2 complex reppers. nice cheap and very effective. that tiny dispersion buff got me that little extra range I was wanting from the gun. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
851
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:13:00 -
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what's your overall performance?
too high?
back to normal for chromosome?
that's my question
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Rynx Sinfar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
596
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:21:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:what's your overall performance?
too high?
back to normal for chromosome?
that's my question
For basic HMG the damage should be about equal to chromosome, think the dispersion was same already so that would be improved.
Old number list basic HMG at 16 damage (no weaponry skill), new number is 18 (would match with weaponry V). |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
528
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:22:00 -
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The heavy buff and the weapon buffs in general changed the feel of the game...
I like it... |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
851
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:29:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:The heavy buff and the weapon buffs in general changed the feel of the game...
I like it...
Is this a statement from the delivering or recieving side?
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PAs Capone
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
79
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:43:00 -
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This thread is based on the fact that we heavies rallied around our class to ensure our future. But as we have had a victory this day, we must also fight for the victories of our brothers in other occupations. If we notice imbalance we must fight to change it and acknowledge when we have an unfair advantage due to game mechanics.
In short we must be respectful of the new power we have, fight battles with those who have noticed inbalance. Make sure our voices are heard now and forever-more!
lets keep this on topic. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1535
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:43:00 -
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Rynx Sinfar wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:what's your overall performance?
too high?
back to normal for chromosome?
that's my question
For basic HMG the damage should be about equal to chromosome, think the dispersion was same already so that would be improved. Old number list basic HMG at 16 damage (no weaponry skill), new number is 18 (would match with weaponry V).
You're right about the dmg it does which = to weaponry lvl 5 which the dev did not take into consideration when the new HMG numbers were drafted.
The spread was reduced by 5% today, which gives the gun slightly more range, or rather dmg over range. You have more bullets hitting at range. |
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