So;

I saw a lot of thread about HMG, HAV, TAR but not so many about this crappy suit...
Has CCP any project to nerf this suit ?

Tired to see all those assaut guys use a broken suit

Hmm, you didn't spec into Caldari logi... what, you mad bro?

I'm Assaut so i spec into assaut... I'm not mad, you really want see me with 700+ shield and a Duvolle ?
Just saying noob, just saying

I'm Assaut so i spec into assaut... I'm not mad, you really want see me with 700+ shield and a Duvolle ?
Just saying noob, just saying

I run around ~700 shield and a Duvolle... it's fun. You should try it sometime.

So;

I saw a lot of thread about HMG, HAV, TAR but not so many about this crappy suit...
Has CCP any project to nerf this suit ?

Tired to see all those assaut guys use a broken suit

Give it a sidearm, instead of a light weapon, and the shield bonus would be excellent for a field medic.

Not a bad idea...

Actually, it's a terrible idea. This game was about being able to play around and tinker with things, not force people into playing a gimped suit. The RPG argument doesn't hold up, this is a shooter, isn't it?

Oh the tears that will flow when I get my scrambler rifle. gg shield ho's

Oh the tears that will flow when I get my scrambler rifle. gg shield ho's

I agree with this idea. Let us tinker. Eliminate ALL slots, let people equip anything they want as long as it comes in below CPU/PG. One weapon, one sidearm, all the mods or equipment you want.

I got flamed to kitten by "logissaults" for saying this but...





Sidearms only for logistics.

Unlike the other thread, I'm going to provide a little reasoning here:

It's pretty simple: Logistics need to be the most tanky medium frames to do their job; which is to keep their bros fighting at peak condition. They need to be able to take hits; and they can. Taking away slots is a bad idea because tank isn't what makes the logi overpowered. The problem stems from the light weapon, as it not only happens to distract the user from actually doing his/her job, it also makes the suit as effective as -- if not more than -- the assault at killing.

Sidearms were designed as backup weapons, and considering killing people isn't the role of logistics I'd consider needing a weapon in the first place a "plan B" scenario:

If the guy you're healing ran out into the wall of fire, forget him, he's not going to thank you for reviving him in the enemy kill zone.

If your skirmish squad has turned 1v1 and you're the only one left, a simple SMG and some creative use of cover is more than enough to do the job, even against a protosuit.

The Caldari Logi is only really a problem if you approach it head on; the trick is to use a flux to take down the shields, then finish it at close range before it can recover. In other words, you need to flank it; scouts will do this amazingly well (I run with dual SMGs and Flux; Caldari Logi are my favorite prey because they think they're invincible).

To conclude: Logistics isn't a glamorous role; like in just about any MMO (and make no mistake, DUST is an MMO), your role as healer isn't to get kills, it's to make sure your side keeps its DPS in the fight. DPS wins fights, but Logistics wins wars.
It takes a certain type of player to be logistics; you have to be fine with having a **** KDR and being unappreciated, but that's fine, because you know that without you, they'd have lost the engagement.

Went caldari logi suit because i want to shield tank.

They remove some high slots or give me a side arm instead of a light weapon. Better include a respec in there as well or i will be leaving. They really messed up this patch it seems.

Why should they include a respec? It's a logistics suit. You should have known what risk you were taking as soon as you skilled into it. If they messed up on tactical sniper rifles and somehow made them very effective in CQC, would you blow all your skills on that and then ***** when they turned it back into a real sniper rifle? No. You are in a suit that is designed to be most effective at supporting and repairing your team. HTFU and deal with the consequences if/when they nerf it for assault players.

If I wasted 2/3 of my SP speccing into a suit that they nerf back to the stoneage (as they seem to swing in extremes with all balancing) then there had better be a respec option.

Why should they include a respec? It's a logistics suit. You should have known what risk you were taking as soon as you skilled into it. If they messed up on tactical sniper rifles and somehow made them very effective in CQC, would you blow all your skills on that and then ***** when they turned it back into a real sniper rifle? No. You are in a suit that is designed to be most effective at supporting and repairing your team. HTFU and deal with the consequences if/when they nerf it for assault players.

I generally like to stick to what makes sense. I'm a dropship pilot, and I saw that vehicle shield extenders required dropsuit skills. I went, "Huh, that doesn't make sense," and played with militia shield extenders on my python for a few days and saved that SP. I got on yesterday, saw vehicle pilots everywhere blowing up the forums because they had useless SP sunk into dropsuit skills now, and I smiled to myself.

As for this, I'm just waiting for CCP to nerf the slots or put a 25% reduced damage role bonus on Logi suits or something. At that point, I'll sit here and laugh at all you assault idiots who have several million skill points invested in it.

Respec, respec, respec - dude, whilst i agree that another respec on the 14th would be good for the player base, calling for a respec everytime something gets nerfed is just crazy

let's face it, 6 months later it will get buffed and whatever you had skilled into the meantime will get nerved, you can't cry respec every 5 seconds.

As for the 14th, yeah, im not against a respec cos CCP ****** up

I agree, respec every patch is ridiculous. At the same time, there's no basic logi suit (another **** up by CCP), so to even know if you'd like to play logi that's roughly 2,000,000 SP to try out. Not to mention that 6 months is a long time in an FPS and there are no side activities to hide behind in Dust like there are in EVE. There's no mining or trading or hi-sec here, it's kill or be killed (cos your SP is in the wrong tree).

I agree, respec every patch is ridiculous. At the same time, there's no basic logi suit (another **** up by CCP), so to even know if you'd like to play logi that's roughly 2,000,000 SP to try out. Not to mention that 6 months is a long time in an FPS and there are no side activities to hide behind in Dust like there are in EVE. There's no mining or trading or hi-sec here, it's kill or be killed (cos your SP is in the wrong tree).

Actually you wrong, most of the SP i spend on it, is also need it for the Caldari Assault Dropsuit.... so i only wasted 186,500 SP of it.. I can switch to the Assault one with 186,500 SP only.

CPU/pg upgrade mods in the lows...,20 complex shields in the highs

If I wasted 2/3 of my SP speccing into a suit that they nerf back to the stoneage (as they seem to swing in extremes with all balancing) then there had better be a respec option.